Leafs have the best goaltending duo in the NHL

Leafs87

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I am not sure if it’s always been this way, in fact I don’t think so, but having a strong duo is more important than having a strong number 1. At least for the regular season. Also goaltending has become basically fully system based. I’m really happy to see this, but I think the days of having 1 goalie making 8+ and another one around or under 2/3 are gone. You need two 4/5 mill goalies. Curious how playoffs will be handled, but we saw the Bruins dabble with 2 goalies last year. Maybe it becomes a game plan
 
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HockeyVirus

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This is almost all Berube. Any goalie would generally do well under this system.

"Almost any goalie" and yet when we were playing perfect defense in the playoffs, these guys still found ways to let the team down. Remember these?





Do I need to link Samsonov's goals against last year?

Point is, each of these goals cost us the series. Not the fault of bad defense, just trash tier goaltending. So I disagree any goalie looks good under this system.
 

Gary Nylund

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I am not sure if it’s always been this way, in fact I don’t think so, but having a strong duo is more important than having a strong number 1. At least for the regular season. Also goaltending has become basically fully system based. I’m really happy to see this, but I think the days of having 1 goalie making 8+ and another one around or under 2/3 are gone. You need two 4/5 mill goalies. Curious how playoffs will be handled, but we saw the Bruins dabble with 2 goalies last year. Maybe it becomes a game plan
Way too early to say any of this IMO. And re. the bolded, goaltending is the same it's always been as far as I can tell, keep the puck out of the net, simple as that. It's easier to do with a team playing good D in front of you but that's the way it's always been.
 

TheTotalPackage

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I'd say this is the first time, in the Matthews/Marner/Nylander era, that I've felt quite confident with the team's goaltending. In that if one plays poorly, the other can pick up the slack and run with it. Both Woll and Stolarz have shown the capability of providing top-flight goaltending (Woll now just has to show it for a sustained period instead of having some injury crop up).

I know we had a Andersen/Campbell combo at one point, but they were plagued with inconsistency, timely bad goals, injury, or a combination thereof.

It's super early only a quarter of the way through, and the playoffs are what's going to matter and be the test. But so far, things look more promising than they have in a long, long time.
 
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Gary Nylund

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It's ok to have hope that this year's moves have pushed the needle in the right direction, but I hear ya. Until the Leafs go on a deep run it's just masochism at this point.
Yup. I like what I've seen so far but I also liked our roster when we added ROR, McCabe and Schenn at the TDL only to see these guys shit the bed against Florida. I'm cautiously optimistic but it's the same old core who always runs out of gas down the stretch so until they get it done ... talk is cheap.
Like, seriously.
If we cant talk about anything until the playoffs why is that poster here in November.
You can talk about whatever you like. I think there's lots to talk about without bragging myself, if you don't then that's pretty weird IMO but as I said, to each his own. :)
 

Suntouchable13

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I really like our goaltending right now. Will I like it 5 months from now? Who knows. The season is so long, it's astounding. 5 months still left till first game of the playoffs. I hope both of them keep on rolling. Keep it up.
 
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44 is Rielly good
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Regardless of if its the best or not, this duo is lightyears better than anything we've had in the recent past. I'm genuinely impressed by how good Stolarz is.

Campbell, Mrazek, Murray, Samsonov and even Andersen for his playoff choke jobs were all garbage.
I had a previous post that took a look at it and the Leafs goaltending duo stats are shockingly horrible.

- 6 years since 96 where both our goalies had .905% or better.
- 4 years with .910 or better
- 2 years with .915 or better
- 0 years with both .920 or better


So 6 of the last 27 years had what I would consider the bare minimum for an adequate NHL duo. There was a couple (not many) years where our starter was good, but the backup sucked; however, it was very rare for the Leafs to have two quality goalies like it looks like we have now.

We may not have Vezina calibre goaltending, but we definitely have Jennings calibre so far this year.
 
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crump

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Plenty of starts to go around in December. Including 8 in 13 days to start the month. 4 (f***ing 4) back to backs in this month alone. That’s every weekend. Going to need the duo to come up big. maybe have Woll take Utah, go back Stolarz against his old team then coin flip for Tampa. They are each looking at getting 2 starts a week up to the Christmas break week.


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TMLBlueandWhite

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Plenty of starts to go around in December. Including 8 in 13 days to start the month. 4 (f***ing 4) back to backs in this month alone. That’s every weekend. Going to need the duo to come up big. maybe have Woll take Utah, go back Stolarz against his old team then coin flip for Tampa. They are each looking at getting 2 starts a week up to the Christmas break week.


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Busy but a lot of should be easy to beat teams too.
 

Evilhomer

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Busy but a lot of should be easy to beat teams too.
That December schedule is laughable (even more so because the bulk of them are home games). I think they could play every night for 14 straight nights against those teams and still win. The Leafs will likely be first overall in the league by the end of December because of that schedule.
 

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