Leafs defense just plain sucks1

[Apotheosis]

Who do the Leafs send for Lindolhm?

Literally anything to get in done within reason. If we can agree to an extension, he would be a huge buy. Instantly our best D and makes the team so much better.

 

[IPS]

This makes 0 sense. He’s playing the worst he’s ever played but someone else can’t come in and be better because????

Second year in a row now we have a goalie putting up a career-worst season (3rd if you wanna count Freddy twice). How many more will it take for you to even consider there might be problems elsewhere?
And no, I really doubt that there's anything out there that would be any sizeable upgrade on what we already have. I remember reading last year that "any other goalie would be an improvement on Freddy", so they got Rittich and it turned out completely awful.

 

[Apex Predator]

Literally anything to get in done within reason. If we can agree to an extension, he would be a huge buy. Instantly our best D and makes the team so much better.

Do the Leafs have the cap space to resign him for next year?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

There's no lie. We all watch the games. His impact is negligible compared to his monstrous cap hit. And a bulk of his points comes from Nylander creating chances for him, not the other way around. He's as slow as molasses and handles the puck like a grenade as of late.

I don't care how he gets his points as long as he gets them.

 

[Apotheosis]

I don't care how he gets his points as long as he gets them.

Not a great mentality at all.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Not a great mentality at all.

The object of the game is to score more than the opponent so I don't care how he does it

 

[TheGoldenJet]

After all, there's a very good chance the next GM does the "Remember the Over-The-Hill gang? Let's do that!" thing

What awful logic for not firing Doobler. I sincerely doubt that’s what the next GM does.

 

[Shooter2x]

The object of the game is to score more than the opponent so I don't care how he does it

You can't win 5-4 - Ken Holland

 

[Lightsol]

What awful logic for not firing Doobler. I sincerely doubt that’s what the next GM does.

Except that's been the exact thing every GM the Leafs have brought in following a period of success has done since 1967. We've even had general managers dismantle their OWN f***ing teams following this logic (see: Fletcher, Cliff). So saying "I doubt that's what the GM does". Yeah, that's what they said in 78, too. And in 88. And in 95. And in 02.

 

[Leafsfan74]

Who do the Leafs send for Lindolhm?

Am I alone in hoping this is NOT the guy the Leafs target?

They don't need a Lindholm IMO unless it's a hockey trade/upgrade.

 

[al secord]

Is this the game day thread?

 

[A1LeafNation]

not sure if serious ?

Looks like a #1C to me

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Is there something wrong with mrazek?
I mean like this is by far his worst season ever
I feel like we are going to pay majorly to move him and he will revert to what he usually is
wonder if there's something bother him that would make sense of his horrible play this season.
or maybe those injuries is a reason to him being this bad
either way I dont think bringing in some extra D will help much.
not if we cant make a save

 

[zeke]

Counterpoint: no, it doesn't.

 

[Apex Predator]

Counterpoint: no, it doesn't.

it’s just one game

 

[zeke]

it’s just one game

All season you mean.

3 seasons now, actually.

 

[Shooter2x]

Counterpoint: no, it doesn't.

you said rielly-bear was trash in the gtd therefore our top pairing is still a question mark, but it's also a counterpoint game?

Logic works weird around here

 

[Zybalto]

Top 3 defensive (All situations xGA) teams this season:

1. Boston
2. Calgary
3. Toronto
3. Dallas

Gotta remember the Leafs sat at 3rd in the league for the actual fewest goals against on January 14th. That wasn't by accident. Just because the goaltending fell apart (.871 team save % since that date coming into tonight) doesn't mean the D all of a sudden was trash.

The Leafs are, at worst, a solid defensive team. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be great to get another top-end piece back there but threads like these are pretty off base.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Thats why tou culld. Build gro. From


Thats why you build from the net out

 

[IPS]

Top 3 defensive (All situations xGA) teams this season:

1. Boston
2. Calgary
3. Toronto
3. Dallas

Gotta remember the Leafs sat at 3rd in the league for the actual fewest goals against on January 14th. That wasn't by accident. Just because the goaltending fell apart (.871 team save % since that date coming into tonight) doesn't mean the D all of a sudden was trash.

The Leafs are, at worst, a solid defensive team. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be great to get another top-end piece back there but threads like these are pretty off base.

So where does Carolina fit in there? Is crappy Freddy holding them back from being at the top?

 

[Zybalto]

So where does Carolina fit in there? Is crappy Freddy holding them back from being at the top?

Nope, Freddy has remained both healthy( the big thing) and seems rejuvenated away from the Toronto spotlight which was certainly wearing on him near the end there. Looks like he did back in 2018 but the worries about pressure games are going to remain.

As far as Carolina's D numbers go, the typical solid above average D numbers they have had recently and are very much like the Leafs in that they give up a few more high danger chances than they want to despite the overall solid D.