Rumor: Laughton trade talks heating up

[ponder719]

How bout Laughts & Risto to DAL for Bichsel + (Dumba's contract)

Can't speak to Dallas' interest, but Bichsel feels like the kind of prospect that would get DB's heartrate up in a good way.

 

[10YearsAfter]

Can't speak to Dallas' interest, but Bichsel feels like the kind of prospect that would get DB's heartrate up in a good way.

Dallas is stacked on left side, Flyers desperately need size all over. Throw in a 25 2nd to DAL if it would get it over the hump. Risto is a perfect fit for Stars SC run

 

[SnS]

How bout Laughts & Risto to DAL for Bichsel + (Dumba's contract)

Dallas will tell the Flyers to kick rocks.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Dallas is stacked on left side, Flyers desperately need size all over. Throw in a 25 2nd to DAL if it would get it over the hump. Risto is a perfect fit for Stars SC run

I'd do that.

 

[Petes2424]

Any manager who gives up a Grade A piece for Laughton needs his head examined. He’s a good ROLE player. He’s not even a pace changer in the bottom 6.

Is he better than Lars Eller? Maybe a little. That was a 3rd and a 5th. So maybe a 3rd and a 4th?? Two future 3rds??

He’ll help anyone he goes to, as long as you’re not asking too much from him. So can’t see giving you too much for him either.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Any manager who gives up a Grade A piece for Laughton needs his head examined. He’s a good ROLE player. He’s not even a pace changer in the bottom 6.

Is he better than Lars Eller? Maybe a little. That was a 3rd and a 5th. So maybe a 3rd and a 4th?? Two future 3rds??

He’ll help anyone he goes to, as long as you’re not asking too much from him. So can’t see giving you too much for him either.

He's getting more then 2 3rds.

 

[Petes2424]

He's getting more then 2 3rds.

He may but would anyone be surprised? They shouldn’t be. Lars Eller in his prime got two 2nds right? I might give a 2nd because he has next year at $3 million left, so I’d get two playoffs, but he’s not gonna get any Grade A assets.

 

[FissionFire]

I could see Yzerman trying to get him as center depth if the price isn’t too high.

 

[ManofSteel55]

He is absolutely worth a 1st round pick to a contender, especially with the context that the back half of the first round this year is apparently weaker than normal.

He has 2 years left at a great cap hit. Whoever acquires him gets him for two playoff runs, and they don't have to give up term beyond next year. If a team like Toronto goes for an equivalent player in free agency, the AAV is higher and they probably need to give up 3-4 years of term.

The two firsts rumour from 2023 was a bit much, but a late 1st in a weak draft for a veteran 3rd liner with a low cap hit and ideal term, whose style of play should translate to playoff hockey, yes.

Is this really true though? I've heard it described as top heavy, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the draft has no depth. In fact, there are a number of sources saying that it is a top heavy draft with depth, the only "weakness" in it are that there isn't a Celebrini type that is projected to be a sure fire superstar. I don't think this year's late first round picks are necessarily weaker than other years, and the draft does appear to have more depth after the first.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Is this really true though? I've heard it described as top heavy, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the draft has no depth. In fact, there are a number of sources saying that it is a top heavy draft with depth, the only "weakness" in it are that there isn't a Celebrini type that is projected to be a sure fire superstar. I don't think this year's late first round picks are necessarily weaker than other years, and the draft does appear to have more depth after the first.

It's a shit draft

 

[ManofSteel55]

2nd round pick + mid prospect type return I imagine.

This could be a fair projection. I'd be interested in doing a 2nd and 3rd, but only if Philly takes a little short term cap to balance it out. That said, my team isn't one of the ones that is reported to be after him, so the cap balancing doesn't necessarily have to come in to play here.

It's a shit draft

That's the narrative here. It doesn't necessarily align with the narrative everywhere else. It always seems to be deemed a shit draft here if there are no superstars in it.

 

[FlyguyOX]

This could be a fair projection. I'd be interested in doing a 2nd and 3rd, but only if Philly takes a little short term cap to balance it out. That said, my team isn't one of the ones that is reported to be after him, so the cap balancing doesn't necessarily have to come in to play here.


That's the narrative here. It doesn't necessarily align with the narrative everywhere else. It always seems to be deemed a shit draft here if there are no superstars in it.

No, it's that there's no players any can get excited about past the top 10iish. Sometimes people are excited about players into pick 20ish. Reading that from other draft experts as well.

 

[sxvnert]

At most I would offer a 2nd + 3rd otherwise a hard pass.

 

[The Burdened]

late 1st rounder in a weak draft seems reasonable

 

[34]

I really hope Toronto stays away from this player. He brings absolutely nothing to the Leafs that they don’t have.

 

[ManofSteel55]

No, it's that there's no players any can get excited about past the top 10iish. Sometimes people are excited about players into pick 20ish. Reading that from other draft experts as well.

It seems like it might be an unexciting draft for those who only care about the top end guys, but from what I read, this is an incredibly deep draft, with rounds 2 - 4 far more likely to hit as NHL'ers than in most years. So like I said earlier, no stars = bad draft narrative, when that isn't necessarily the case.

 

[FlyguyOX]

It seems like it might be an unexciting draft for those who only care about the top end guys, but from what I read, this is an incredibly deep draft, with rounds 2 - 4 far more likely to hit as NHL'ers than in most years. So like I said earlier, no stars = bad draft narrative, when that isn't necessarily the case.

I haven't read that anywhere. Where did you read it?

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

 

[TheKingPin]

Ottawa and Toronto always want him.

 

[norrisnick]

As long as he gets out of the East and/or there is a low likelihood of him playing the Wings in the spring.

 

[biturbo19]

It seems like it might be an unexciting draft for those who only care about the top end guys, but from what I read, this is an incredibly deep draft, with rounds 2 - 4 far more likely to hit as NHL'ers than in most years. So like I said earlier, no stars = bad draft narrative, when that isn't necessarily the case.

That's not really how "draft depth" works. Beyond talking about the "depth" of potential superstars at the top....Basically the only real meaningful gauge on draft "depth" is how far down the "Top-10 type talents" stretch and where that drop-off in tiers happens (ie. is it 15 deep or 7 deep in Top-10 talents?)...and how far the "1st Round type talents" stretch (ie. are there 15 surefire 1st round caliber talents, or do they stretch all the way into the top of the 2nd round?).

Nobody really talks about the "depth" of a draft stretching into rounds 3 and 4. That's so much of a complete crapshoot at that point in every draft, with very low odds of finding a long-term player, much less an impact player. If guys in the 3rd/4th rounds were worth talking about as any sort of blue chip "depth" in the draft...they wouldn't be going that late. It would have to be an enormously abnormal outlier of a crazy draft to break significantly from historical trends on talent coming out of those rounds at more than a tiny fractional rate.

 

[ManofSteel55]

That's not really how "draft depth" works. Beyond talking about the "depth" of potential superstars at the top....Basically the only real meaningful gauge on draft "depth" is how far down the "Top-10 type talents" stretch and where that drop-off in tiers happens (ie. is it 15 deep or 7 deep in Top-10 talents?)...and how far the "1st Round type talents" stretch (ie. are there 15 surefire 1st round caliber talents, or do they stretch all the way into the top of the 2nd round?).

Nobody really talks about the "depth" of a draft stretching into rounds 3 and 4. That's so much of a complete crapshoot at that point in every draft, with very low odds of finding a long-term player, much less an impact player. If guys in the 3rd/4th rounds were worth talking about as any sort of blue chip "depth" in the draft...they wouldn't be going that late. It would have to be an enormously abnormal outlier of a crazy draft to break significantly from historical trends on talent coming out of those rounds at more than a tiny fractional rate.

Well that's an incredibly short sighted definition of "Draft Depth". There is far more to a draft than the top 10 - 20 picks and where the top tiers drop off.

 

[PhiladelphiaKessel]

Exactly the type of player that teams overpay for. It’s not that he’s not a good player but I just don’t see him providing enough value for the overpay it’s going to take