Sportsnet: Laughton Potentially Available

[Cousin Eddie]

To Colorado for 27th overall

 

[dgaspari]

Carolina and Flyers
Laughton, DeAngelo (1.5M retained), and Hayes( 2 M retained)
for
Flyers 3rd 23, Flyers 2nd in24, Canucks 5th 23 Blackhawks 6th in23 and Massimo Rizzo
with the money retained it does not inflate the Carolina cap
Hayes replaces Pacioretty
Laughton checks all the boxes for Carolina
DeAngelo helps a power play that was in the bottom half of the league. Carolina only
moved him because they did not want to pay him 5M. They pay him 3.5 on a one-year contract.
Rizzo is the 15th-ranked prospect and does not bankrupt the Carolina prospect pool
all draft picks are excess picks. Carolina retains all its original draft picks in 23 and 24

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[Pantokrator]

Canes fan here. I'm really interested in Laughton.

Laughton would be a great fit on our team for several reasons. He checks a lot of boxes for our team, and makes a lot of sense to obtain.

If I'm the Carolina front office, I'm asking the Flyers about him. If he would require something like a late 1st and a B tier prospect, that's a reasonable price, and that allows us to still go big game hunting for a top 6 forward.

I'd be thrilled if the Flyers got Carolina's first this year and the Flyers 2024 second that they traded to Carolina.

 

[Sigurd]

Carolina and Flyers
Laughton, DeAngelo (1.5M retained), and Hayes( 2 M retained)
for
Flyers 3rd 23, Flyers 2nd in24, Canucks 5th 23 Blackhawks 6th in23 and Massimo Rizzo
with the money retained it does not inflate the Carolina cap
Hayes replaces Pacioretty
Laughton checks all the boxes for Carolina
DeAngelo helps a power play that was in the bottom half of the league. Carolina only
moved him because they did not want to pay him 5M. They pay him 3.5 on a one-year contract.
Rizzo is the 15th-ranked prospect and does not bankrupt the Carolina prospect pool
all draft picks are excess picks. Carolina retains all its original draft picks in 23 and 24

I'm glad you brought up a larger trade deal between Carolina and Philly. While that's an interesting proposal you made, here's mine I wanted to share.

I was thinking earlier this evening that Carolina getting both Konecny and Laughton would literally check every box for obtaining new forwards from our front office's perspective. Konecny would be the high point producing top 6 forward that's still fairly young, and Laughton would be the physical bottom 6 forward that has a goal scoring touch. There's several more things to like about them, but I'll just keep it brief.

I'm not sure what the exact trade package from Carolina for both Konecny and Laughton would be, but I'm pretty sure it starts with this year's 1st round pick and Morrow. The other adds are up for debate, but with Konecny, there'd be more. For example, maybe Drury would interest Philly. Young guy that can play center and wing and showed good potential this year after getting more time in the NHL.

I'd be thrilled if the Flyers got Carolina's first this year and the Flyers 2024 second that they traded to Carolina.

I know I was open to trading our late 1st for Laughton, but if Carolina is going to trade their 1st round pick from this year especially, it more than likely will be for a good point producing top 6 forward. So, based on my above comment to another poster, I'd be happy with trading this year's 1st round pick for Konecny. Preferably for a bigger package that involves both Konecny and Laughton. That'd be more of a blockbuster deal that would benefit both teams.

 

[dundee]

Carolina and Flyers
Laughton, DeAngelo (1.5M retained), and Hayes( 2 M retained)
for
Flyers 3rd 23, Flyers 2nd in24, Canucks 5th 23 Blackhawks 6th in23 and Massimo Rizzo
with the money retained it does not inflate the Carolina cap
Hayes replaces Pacioretty
Laughton checks all the boxes for Carolina
DeAngelo helps a power play that was in the bottom half of the league. Carolina only
moved him because they did not want to pay him 5M. They pay him 3.5 on a one-year contract.
Rizzo is the 15th-ranked prospect and does not bankrupt the Carolina prospect pool
all draft picks are excess picks. Carolina retains all its original draft picks in 23 and 24

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Easy no for the flyers....you will only get HAYES for those pick....you get 3 pick for TDA last year and you think Briere will give you laughton and Hayes for free?? Awful propostion

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[BrindamoursNose]

Carolina and Flyers
Laughton, DeAngelo (1.5M retained), and Hayes( 2 M retained)
for
Flyers 3rd 23, Flyers 2nd in24, Canucks 5th 23 Blackhawks 6th in23 and Massimo Rizzo
with the money retained it does not inflate the Carolina cap

That's just not enough return for those players. No reason for us to retain and get less value just to make the Hurricanes happy.

-DeAngelo we can probably get a 2nd or 3rd at the TDL
-Hayes, if we retain 50%, we can probably get a 1st+
-Laughton we may be able to get a 1st without any retention

 

[JRichard]

Carolina and Flyers
Laughton, DeAngelo (1.5M retained), and Hayes( 2 M retained)
for
Flyers 3rd 23, Flyers 2nd in24, Canucks 5th 23 Blackhawks 6th in23 and Massimo Rizzo
with the money retained it does not inflate the Carolina cap
Hayes replaces Pacioretty
Laughton checks all the boxes for Carolina
DeAngelo helps a power play that was in the bottom half of the league. Carolina only
moved him because they did not want to pay him 5M. They pay him 3.5 on a one-year contract.
Rizzo is the 15th-ranked prospect and does not bankrupt the Carolina prospect pool
all draft picks are excess picks.




i’d do that and that would be the last move so you take that money now available (8 mil) and buy 1 ufa dman

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That's just not enough return for those players. No reason for us to retain and get less value just to make the Hurricanes happy.

-DeAngelo we can probably get a 2nd or 3rd at the TDL
-Hayes, if we retain 50%, we can probably get a 1st+
-Laughton we may be able to get a 1st without any retention

Hayes retention 3.5 for 3 yrs i dont like even with a 1st.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Hayes retention 3.5 for 3 yrs i dont like even with a 1st.

All depends on what exactly the return is. I think it's more than a 1st, but we'll see. We're not contending so I don't even care.

Hayes' deal is the one I expect we'll have to just accept we're going to eat one way or another.

 

[tictactoe]

To Colorado for 27th overall

Not that Laughton is great but this is a average to below average offer..

 

[Pantokrator]

I'm glad you brought up a larger trade deal between Carolina and Philly. While that's an interesting proposal you made, here's mine I wanted to share.

I was thinking earlier this evening that Carolina getting both Konecny and Laughton would literally check every box for obtaining new forwards from our front office's perspective. Konecny would be the high point producing top 6 forward that's still fairly young, and Laughton would be the physical bottom 6 forward that has a goal scoring touch. There's several more things to like about them, but I'll just keep it brief.

I'm not sure what the exact trade package from Carolina for both Konecny and Laughton would be, but I'm pretty sure it starts with this year's 1st round pick and Morrow. The other adds are up for debate, but with Konecny, there'd be more. For example, maybe Drury would interest Philly. Young guy that can play center and wing and showed good potential this year after getting more time in the NHL.

I know I was open to trading our late 1st for Laughton, but if Carolina is going to trade their 1st round pick from this year especially, it more than likely will be for a good point producing top 6 forward. So, based on my above comment to another poster, I'd be happy with trading this year's 1st round pick for Konecny. Preferably for a bigger package that involves both Konecny and Laughton. That'd be more of a blockbuster deal that would benefit both teams.

I'd love to figure out a deal with Konecny and Laughton to Carolina, I have no idea where to begin though.

 

[Hockeypete49]

Garland may have some small value to some teams but is essentially neutral.

Laughton value is roughly 2nd + B prospect. 2 2nds and a B prospect do not = 11OV, especially in this draft.

11, Garland for 22 and Laugh.

I think it still favours Philly.

Phiiy already turned down a late 1st for Scott from an un-named team.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Prospects, and picks, and remove Garland.

I think there's a deal between the two teams and the nucks would likely kill two birds by shedding salary at a cost.

The obvious would be a 2nd for 1 year of Myers but I really think Garland offers the flyers an opportunity to pump and dump or simply kkeep him around for a vet presence. By giving him top 6 minutes he's likely a 60++ guy who helps with the youth and then at the deadline in 25 after building value is flipped for assets, especially with full retention. Either way Nucks likely have to attach a pick with him due to the flat cap but he is absolutely not someone who isn't worth the contract, he is just a victim of circumstance, with the flat cap and 3rd and 4th line minutes but still puts up 45-50 points 5on5.

Picks wise what is Laughtons perceived Value? 2nd and 3rd? 2025 1st, top 10 protected?

He checks a lot of boxes for us and I'm not the type that is in love with magic beans and feel HF values picks way too much.

The way I see it is if a pick turns into a big piece via drafting said piece or if the pick is traded and the player acquired becomes a core player I don't see the difference.

 

[Tripod]

I think there's a deal between the two teams and the nucks would likely kill two birds by shedding salary at a cost.

The obvious would be a 2nd for 1 year of Myers but I really think Garland offers the flyers an opportunity to pump and dump or simply kkeep him around for a vet presence. By giving him top 6 minutes he's likely a 60++ guy who helps with the youth and then at the deadline in 25 after building value is flipped for assets, especially with full retention. Either way Nucks likely have to attach a pick with him due to the flat cap but he is absolutely not someone who isn't worth the contract, he is just a victim of circumstance, with the flat cap and 3rd and 4th line minutes but still puts up 45-50 points 5on5.

Picks wise what is Laughtons perceived Value? 2nd and 3rd? 2025 1st, top 10 protected?

He checks a lot of boxes for us and I'm not the type that is in love with magic beans and feel HF values picks way too much.

The way I see it is if a pick turns into a big piece via drafting said piece or if the pick is traded and the player acquired becomes a core player I don't see the difference.

Laughton is valued as a 1st rounder..likely 17ish and later. Depending where the pick is determine what would be added to the pick.

Prime years
Signed fairly
Signed with term
Team can re-coup most of spent value if they chose to in 2 years

 

[Curufinwe]

To Colorado for 27th overall

Not enough. Calgary or Winnipeg could beat that, and they would love a guy like Laughton locked up for 3 years.

 

[ponder719]

I think there's a deal between the two teams and the nucks would likely kill two birds by shedding salary at a cost.

The obvious would be a 2nd for 1 year of Myers but I really think Garland offers the flyers an opportunity to pump and dump or simply kkeep him around for a vet presence. By giving him top 6 minutes he's likely a 60++ guy who helps with the youth and then at the deadline in 25 after building value is flipped for assets, especially with full retention. Either way Nucks likely have to attach a pick with him due to the flat cap but he is absolutely not someone who isn't worth the contract, he is just a victim of circumstance, with the flat cap and 3rd and 4th line minutes but still puts up 45-50 points 5on5.

Picks wise what is Laughtons perceived Value? 2nd and 3rd? 2025 1st, top 10 protected?

He checks a lot of boxes for us and I'm not the type that is in love with magic beans and feel HF values picks way too much.

The way I see it is if a pick turns into a big piece via drafting said piece or if the pick is traded and the player acquired becomes a core player I don't see the difference.

A deal between the two teams? Plausible. Does that deal involve us taking back $5M per year for 3 years when we could conceivably get pick 17-20 for with no negative cap implications elsewhere? Probably not. The person who suggested 11 and Myers for 22 and Laughton is closer than anyone who's suggesting Garland, unless the deal was 11 and Garland for Laughton even up. That would certainly get my attention.

 

[TheKingPin]

Given some of the rumors it seems like we could have a return of a 1st +

I am hoping for a 1 + 2 and really hoping for a 1 + 2 + 2.

People on the flyers board brought up the Jeannot deal.

 

[BKarchitect]

Given some of the rumors it seems like we could have a return of a 1st +

I am hoping for a 1 + 2 and really hoping for a 1 + 2 + 2.

People on the flyers board brought up the Jeannot deal.

I mean everybody on every team homer board is going to bring up the Jeannot deal to support their deepest dreams when it comes to dealing a middle six player. That doesn’t mean there’s any realistic correlation you should expect.

I really like Laughton and was singing his praises earlier in this very thread but I think we are starting to spin a little out of control here in terms of expected return. If he were 24 that would be one thing in desiring a Hagel type return but he’s 29. So you get him for his 29, 30 and 31 age seasons. I don’t expect any kind of drop off but he also is who he is. In some of these other mid six deals the teams handing out all the picks are banking on expected growth (like Hagel). Laughton is who he is.

There’s a lot of value in his versatility and contract and a late 1st starting point with maybe a small add seems realistic. I do think his return does cap out a bit though in that range.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Any deal with Laughton that involves a 1st should be an easy decision for the flyers. The fact it's not, because of intangibles that the whole league values, means the deal should be a 1st +

 

[jackjohnson]

Philly:
Laughton, Sanheim, Attard, Zamula, 2nd pick

Vancouver:
11th pick overall, 3rd round pick, Garland, Hoglander, Rathbone, Myers

Clears cap space for Canucks while at the same time addresses 3rd line C and defense

Philly gets a high first round pick in a deep draft plus a 3rd round pick and some decent prospects in Hoglander and Rathbone for their rebuild. With all the picks and prospects Philly got in other trades, they could turn their team around in 2 years time.

Also Myers will have his contract end next year, so 1 year of Myers cap dump while having Garland at 4.95 mil per while still young and productive will not hurt Flyers at all in both short term or long term especially when they would recoup a high 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick in a deep draft plus 2 decent prospect still on their ELC.

 

[SnS]

Philly:
Laughton, Sanheim, Attard, Zamula, 2nd pick

Vancouver:
11th pick overall, 3rd round pick, Garland, Hoglander, Rathbone, Myers

Clears cap space for Canucks while at the same time addresses 3rd line C and defense

Philly gets a high first round pick in a deep draft plus a 3rd round pick and some decent prospects in Hoglander and Rathbone for their rebuild. With all the picks and prospects Philly got in other trades, they could turn their team around in 2 years time.

Also Myers will have his contract end next year, so 1 year of Myers cap dump while having Garland at 4.95 mil per while still young and productive will not hurt Flyers at all in both short term or long term especially when they would recoup a high 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick in a deep draft plus 2 decent prospect still on their ELC.

I wouldn’t do this. I think it’s pretty bad for Philly.

 

[wankstifier]

Hayes retention 3.5 for 3 yrs i dont like even with a 1st.

That'd be 2.2x3.5 at the TDL

 

[AirGut]

what would it take from NYR?

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Philly:
Laughton, Sanheim, Attard, Zamula, 2nd pick

Vancouver:
11th pick overall, 3rd round pick, Garland, Hoglander, Rathbone, Myers

Clears cap space for Canucks while at the same time addresses 3rd line C and defense

Philly gets a high first round pick in a deep draft plus a 3rd round pick and some decent prospects in Hoglander and Rathbone for their rebuild. With all the picks and prospects Philly got in other trades, they could turn their team around in 2 years time.

Also Myers will have his contract end next year, so 1 year of Myers cap dump while having Garland at 4.95 mil per while still young and productive will not hurt Flyers at all in both short term or long term especially when they would recoup a high 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick in a deep draft plus 2 decent prospect still on their ELC.

This is so bad for Philly, the Flyers might as well through in Konency and Hart...

 

[RANKKA]

Philly:
Laughton

Vancouver:
11th pick overall

done deal