GDT: Las Vegas Expansion Draft/Trades

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Blackhawkswincup

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Early this morning Bobby Mac had a big string of tweets



























Some Lebrun





Tonight and coming days should be absolute fun ,, Glad I took some days off from work to watch this unfold (I always watch draft every year ,, Love it)

Expansion draft makes this years offseason/draft far more entertaining

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Toews2Bickell

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Apparently acquired rights to Nikita Gusev. Would like to see Stan inquire about possible flip.
 

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Raphaël Doucet @raphdoucet
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De source sûre, je peux confirmer que le joueur des @StLouisBlues choisir par les @GoldenKnights est David Perron.

Google translate says


From reliable source, I can confirm that the player of @StLouisBlues to choose from @GoldenKnights is David Perron.
 

Blackhawkswincup

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Raphaël Doucet @raphdoucet
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De source sûre, je peux confirmer que le joueur des @StLouisBlues choisir par les @GoldenKnights est David Perron.

Google translate says


From reliable source, I can confirm that the player of @StLouisBlues to choose from @GoldenKnights is David Perron.

Perron was solid last year and found some of his game back after some struggles in recent years

But man was he god awful in playoffs
 

ChiHawk21

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vegas will end up with some good young players/prospects. Wonder if ville pokka will be one of them
 

Blackhawkswincup

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Why would they want a failing prospect in Pokka who cant skate? TVR is going to be picked unless Hawks work out deal to prevent them from taking TVR


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Figures the NHL would find way to take fun out of this
 

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Hearing that VGK have selected Marc Methot in the expansion draft... whether or not he gets flipped over the next few days...
 

HawksFan37

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The next couple of days are going to be a gong show. Gonna be a lot of fun to watch. Might be the first time in years I watch the NHL Awards!
 

ChiHawk21

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Why would they want a failing prospect in Pokka who cant skate? TVR is going to be picked unless Hawks work out deal to prevent them from taking TVR


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Figures the NHL would find way to take fun out of this


was saying he may be included in kruger deal. if there is a kruger deal still..we in fact have no idea whats going on.

Pokka had 45 poitns in 70 games. doesnt seem like he was too bad offensivley and was a solid prospect less then a year ago. I havent watched much rockford and dont respect your opinions on players.
 

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It's really irritating to hear people talk about what a genius George McPhee is for "masterminding" this process. Dude's been set up to succeed like no other expansion GM because the league is obsessed with Las Vegas. He was a blithering idiot with Washington and will continue to be a blithering idiot when his job moves beyond being uniquely empowered to pick off everyone else's teams.
 

HawksFan37

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It's really irritating to hear people talk about what a genius George McPhee is for "masterminding" this process. Dude's been set up to succeed like no other expansion GM because the league is obsessed with Las Vegas. He was a blithering idiot with Washington and will continue to be a blithering idiot when his job moves beyond being uniquely empowered to pick off everyone else's teams.

Can't really argue with much of this. This has to be the best expansion process for an expansion team in North American pro sports than I can remember.

As far as expansion drafts are concerned, he basically got dealt suited Queen Jack as opposed to other expansion teams in the past getting 2/7 off suit.
 

JaegerDice

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I should have known based on the fact that he actually valued TVR.... but good lord, Mcphee is a moron. Passing up so many good players in this draft.
 

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It's really irritating to hear people talk about what a genius George McPhee is for "masterminding" this process. Dude's been set up to succeed like no other expansion GM because the league is obsessed with Las Vegas. He was a blithering idiot with Washington and will continue to be a blithering idiot when his job moves beyond being uniquely empowered to pick off everyone else's teams.

Well, its easy to heap praise now when we don't know what the deals are yet. We'll see when all is said and done. I wouldn't be too fond of some of these rumored deals if I was a fan. Plus HF has always overvalued draft picks.
 

Toews2Bickell

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How does LV walk away with none of the best players exposed :laugh:

If Martin Erat a UFA atm? Perhaps McPhee can put him on that tire fire team.
 

Toews2Bickell

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Vegas might lose more games next year than Colorado did this year.

I mean, it might be the more optimal play to build from the ground up and be bad for a while, but I imagine the appeal of the team will flair out after 20 games when people realize the team will be trash for at least 3-5 years.

How did they pass up on the NHL talent they did for futures.

I just don't get it. You take the cost controlled Vatanen/Manson, Dumba/Scandella, Nelson/Strome, etc all day.

They have no pieces to build around. If McPhee misses on some picks then they'll be bad for a long time.
 

Hawkaholic

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I should have known based on the fact that he actually valued TVR.... but good lord, Mcphee is a moron. Passing up so many good players in this draft.

Actually, it's a smart move.

TvR as a 3rd pairing RHD, if traded, could fetch a draft pick (say a 3rd rounder)

Kruger, if acquired, probably wouldn't fetch much of anything in a trade, and possibly would have to have something packaged with him if you are trading him.

If you look at the way this Vegas team is being constructed, it is with an eye on the future, not PKing next year, or shutting down the ops best on a nightly basis.

If there was no cap, and Vegas was building a team for now, then you could make that argument.
 

Toews2Bickell

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You don't think Kruger would fetch at least a 3rd with money retained? Jurco fetched a 3rd.

He would absolutely fetch a 3rd @ 50% retained, possibly a 2nd given a more prominent role in LV with consistent PP/PK time.

Not to say I take him over TVR. Just saying, Kruger will absolutely have value during the next 2 TDL's.
 

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Emelin , Reinhart , Sbisa and Bellemare reportedly to be picked

McPhee is screwing up ,, Some really awful picks (Emelin is trash at this point and Reinhart is busting hard)
 

HawkNut

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So if the reports are true of the Wild sending a D-Man here, what are the chances it could be Dumba?
 

Hawkaholic

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You don't think Kruger would fetch at least a 3rd with money retained? Jurco fetched a 3rd.

He would absolutely fetch a 3rd @ 50% retained, possibly a 2nd given a more prominent role in LV with consistent PP/PK time.

Not to say I take him over TVR. Just saying, Kruger will absolutely have value during the next 2 TDL's.

Yeah, but then Vegas has to pay 1.5mil for not having a player there to get the same pick back. (in this scenario)
 

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