Patches is probably our streakiest player, there's no sugarcoating that. When he does good the line does good, when he does bad the line does bad.
Which further proves the point that he is carrying his line, hence why many of us want to switch the lines up so that Max doesn't have the burden of being entirely responsible for the production of his line. Isn't it simple? Max is not Crosby, yet he's being asked to carry his linemates the same way Crosby is. It's ridiculously Pejorative Slured.
But just that we are on the same page - he was used in the same manner last playoff and he did produce- Right?
No, he was not used in the same manner in the Playoffs. That is the problem here. People think Eller is getting the same role as last year. He's not. He's in a tougher situation than Plekanec was in last season. I brought it a few pages back already.
Eller is less talented than Plekanec, we can all agree on that, and yet he's used in an even more difficult role than Plekanec was in last year.
Plek barely cracked the 40pt mark last year and that was still with 1 or 2 top 6 wingers, on top of top minutes and a regular PP shift. So what exactly do you expect Eller to do in an even tougher situation??
People love to whine at Eller without even realizing just how difficult his situation is.
You brought up his last POs. Apparently you want to use that to show that he should be able to produce with those guys.
Well, first of all, his line is used in a much tougher situation than last POs. Second, Bourque decided to start playing. Third, he was given another decent winger in Gionta. What happened? Well he lead all forwards in points. Isn't that telling enough for you to consider the fact that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this guy would perform a lot better if we used him properly?? And if we want to use him as a pure checking line center with ineffective offensive winger, then we shouldn't really judge his offensive contribution??
I mean come on here...
I'm arguing with people insisting that Eller is an offensive juggernaut being held back because of the coach and Rene Bourque.
There isn't one person here that said Eller was an offensive juggernaut.
People have said that his production, considering context, is completely understandable and that expecting more is actually an unrealistic expectation. Those same people seem to believe that comparing DD or Plekanec, without considering context, is entirely fair. It's really insane. Some people just throw logic or rationale out the window when it comes down to analyzing Eller.
Here's the reality, DD=Eller. Except one is a playmaker and the other is more of a two way hybrid (think of a less talented Plekanec). Heck, I'll even say that DD is a bit more offensively talented. It doesn't mean Eller should be centering our go-to line though, just like DD shouldn't either. For the fun of it thought, tell me, just how many points do you think Eller would gather if he was centering Max and Gallagher, getting close to 18min of ice, and 2:30 of PP time, while getting close to 70% of off.zone starts? And how many points do you think DD would get playing 14min with no PP time starting in the Off.zone half the amount of time he does playing with Bourque and Weise versus tougher opponents??
This isn't about people believing Eller is a juggernaut. This isn't even a DD vs Eller situation. This is about people trying to put things in perspective and others categorically ignoring the facts just because they have a preconceived opinion on Eller. It is completely Pejorative Slured.
Its easy and convenient to dump on Murray.
Meanwhile, because we do not have effective defensive DMen, Markov is now forced to play 30 minutes per game........because 6 minutes of that time last night was on the PK.
Subban, our, $9M â„¢ DMan is not getting the minutes on the PK. Murray was more valuable than you think. Without him, Markov has been forced to carry the load because Gilbert, Subban, Tinordi (rookie) and yes Weaver have not been solid on D.
But that's another subject for another thread.
All Eller has to do is score points. With his linemates or in spite of his linemates. As of this season, he has not put himself in a position to ask for a promotion nor is he deserving of the propping up that he is getting on this thread.
It all rests on his shoulders (or on his stick). I hope he succeeds.
Murray was terrible and that's why he couldn't get a contract. Drop this moronic belief of yours already.
There is no reason for Markov to have been used as much as he has, and we finished as a top PK team with Subban getting a big role on it. There's no reason why he couldn't kill more penalty time. It's a coaching decision, not a roster problem.
Eller has 2pts in last 5gp, +1, 9 shots on goal. His line also regularly outchanced their opponents. Those are better stats than the guy centering our go-to offensive line. But ya, sure, Eller is the one who's not playing up to par...