Value of: Landeskog to PHI

[DLJB]

Just looking for potential value here....Landeskog would be ideal on Giroux's wing.

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[nuclear reactor]

Flyers have Simmonds, Voracek, Konecny, and Schenn on the wings. If anything, they need a second line center to push the offensive black hole in Couturier down to the third line.

 

[Jray42]

Flyers have Simmonds, Voracek, Konecny, and Schenn on the wings. If anything, they need a second line center to push the offensive black hole in Couturier down to the third line.

If you obviously don't know what you're talking about, why comment? You're just wasting your, and everyone else's, time.

As for the OP, Landeskog would be too expensive and it isn't a huge need at the moment. The Flyers could use an upgrade at the 3C slot.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

If you obviously don't know what you're talking about, why comment? You're just wasting your, and everyone else's, time.

As for the OP, Landeskog would be too expensive and it isn't a huge need at the moment. The Flyers could use an upgrade at the 3C slot.

Tyson Barrie and Carl Soderberg for Simmonds + Something Else??

 

[Nvxs07]

Flyers have Simmonds, Voracek, Konecny, and Schenn on the wings. If anything, they need a second line center to push the offensive black hole in Couturier down to the third line.

Oh.... Oh no. You need to stop.

 

[DLJB]

The way I was looking at it was that Landeskog would be an upgrade for a winger with Giroux. So I would see Schenn as being a starting point going back to the Avs.

 

[Gurglesons]

Man, I'd hate if the Flyers got Landeskog as a Penguins fan. I don't even want to think about a Voracek - Giroux - Landeskog line.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Man, I'd hate if the Flyers got Landeskog as a Penguins fan. I don't even want to think about a Voracek - Giroux - Landeskog line.

Don't worry, Landeskog wont be going anywhere. Top 6 wingers are what Colorado needs more than any other position. They aren't going to trade the only proven top 6 winger they currently have and the captain of their team.

 

[Starat327]

I'd assume the price starts at Schenn and one of the D prospects, in which case its too rich for my blood.

Would love to get Landy, but we don't have the assets to realistically pry him out.

 

[The Abusement Park]

It'd have to be a massive overpayment. Like Simmons+, no need to get rid of our only top 6 player and captain.

 

[whitstifier]

Why? The top 6 isn't the problem. It might make sense to trade for a 3C if all internal options prove inadequate. But wingers? No. Winger depth is a strength for the Flyers.

 

[El Travo]

Just looking for potential value here....Landeskog would be ideal on Giroux's wing.

He'd also be ideal on MacKinnon's wing.


Guess we both don't get what we want.

 

[strictlyrandy]

He'd also be ideal on MacKinnon's wing.


Guess we both don't get what we want.

And thread haha

 

[captainpaxil]

Schenn and Myers would be what i would offer i don't think hextall would go for it though

 

[Cootsfanclub]

I think he holds pretty similar value to Simmonds.

Just talking value, not what I would do in a trade.

Schenn and Myers would be what i would offer i don't think hextall would go for it though

That's a little rich for my blood. Don't think the difference between Landy and Schenn is a cost controlled potential future top 4 RD, his skillset is too much to give.

 

[YEM]

Couturier is not an offensive black hole, not even close, but he'd be a perfect 3rd line centre in today's league. Flyers would be an extremely difficult team to play against with someone else slotted in at 2C

 

[Avs44]

I think he holds pretty similar value to Simmonds.

He's Simmonds, except five years younger and signed two years longer.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

He's Simmonds, except five years younger and signed two years longer.

And Landeskog has a higher cap hit and doesn't score as much as Simmonds.

Similar valued guys.

 

[Avs44]

And Landeskog has a higher cap hit and doesn't score as much as Simmonds.

Similar valued guys.

Over the long term that lower cap hit won't mean much as, in three years, Simmonds is a UFA. He will then get a much higher cap hit than what he currently has now. Landeskog has a further two year at his current cap hit. If you balance out Landeskog's five years with Simmonds' current three years+two years at a new cap hit, how big will that difference be then?


Landeskog was on pace for 58 points over 82 games last year, Simmonds hit 60. The previous year Landeskog put up 59 points, Simmonds was on pace for 55 points over 82 games. The year before that Landeskog put up 65 points, and Simmonds up up 60 points. Scores less, you say???



Landeskog is five years younger, cap hits will balance out, scores at a practically identical rate, is better defensively, and is a captain. Comfortably more valuable.

 

[Cootsfanclub]

Over the long term that lower cap hit won't mean much as, in three years, Simmonds is a UFA. He will then get a much higher cap hit than what he currently has now. Landeskog has a further two year at his current cap hit. If you balance out Landeskog's five years with Simmonds' current three years+two years at a new cap hit, how big will that difference be then?


Landeskog was on pace for 58 points over 82 games last year, Simmonds hit 60. The previous year Landeskog put up 59 points, Simmonds was on pace for 55 points over 82 games. The year before that Landeskog put up 65 points, and Simmonds up up 60 points. Scores less, you say???



Landeskog is five years younger, cap hits will balance out, scores at a practically identical rate, is better defensively, and is a captain. Comfortably more valuable.

In three years the cap will be raised, I'll take Simmonds' contract for now.

I meant goal scoring and Simmonds has scored 20 more goals over the last three seasons.

I wouldn't say Landeskog is comfortably more valuable, I'll just say they're similar in value.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Philly doesn't really need an upgrade to the top-6.

Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds
Konecny - Couturier - Voracek

 

[strictlyrandy]

Philly doesn't really need an upgrade to the top-6.

Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds
Konecny - Couturier - Voracek

Perfect. The Avs don't need to trade their only top 6 wing.

 

[mpp9]

Couturier is not an offensive black hole, not even close, but he'd be a perfect 3rd line centre in today's league. Flyers would be an extremely difficult team to play against with someone else slotted in at 2C

Yeah that's fair. He was on pace for 50 pts last season. So he's definitely not a black hole offensively. But the Flyers would take their forward group to the next level if they could slot him in at 3C.

 

[Mubiki]

Over the long term that lower cap hit won't mean much as, in three years, Simmonds is a UFA. He will then get a much higher cap hit than what he currently has now. Landeskog has a further two year at his current cap hit. If you balance out Landeskog's five years with Simmonds' current three years+two years at a new cap hit, how big will that difference be then?


Landeskog was on pace for 58 points over 82 games last year, Simmonds hit 60. The previous year Landeskog put up 59 points, Simmonds was on pace for 55 points over 82 games. The year before that Landeskog put up 65 points, and Simmonds up up 60 points. Scores less, you say???



Landeskog is five years younger, cap hits will balance out, scores at a practically identical rate, is better defensively, and is a captain. Comfortably more valuable.

The ONLY thing that makes him more valuable is age. That's it.

And I always think it's funny that people intrinsically assume that being a captain adds value. Sorry, but Landeskog is a meathead, and a terrible captain. I think teams generally prefer captains who are composed, and don't take stupid penalties. The fact that he still has a C is incredibly sad.

 

[FlyTimmo]

I'd wish we could get Landeskog. But, he would be so expensive. Like other people have said, we need a 2nd/3rd line center.