Value of: Landeskog for Killorn plus

[lanceuppercut75]

DISCLAIMER - I'm not a Tampa or Colorado fan.

I read somewhere last month that Colorado may or may not be putting Landeskog on their trade block.

I feel that the Lightning want to win badly and will be going all-in (except for trading Bishop away). I also feel that Landeskog would be a great fit, assuming Drouin can play C or RW.

Colorado would probably ask for a left D.

Palat - Johnson - Kucherov
Landeskog - Drouin - Stamkos
Filppula - Namestnikov - Callahan
or
Palat - Johnson - Kucherov
Landeskog - Stamkos - Drouin
Filppula - Namestnikov - Callahan


SO...

What does it take?

Killorn + Koekkoek?
Killorn + Nesterov + 2nd/Erne?
Less? More?

IF the Avalanche prefer Filppula over Soderberg then both could possibly be added into the deal to give Colorado more value. Not sure that's the case though.

Thoughts?

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[Idionym]

DISCLAIMER - I'm not a Tampa or Colorado fan.

I read somewhere last month that Colorado may or may not be putting Landeskog on their trade block.

I feel that the Lightning want to win badly and will be going all-in (except for trading Bishop away). I also feel that Landeskog would be a great fit, assuming Drouin can play C or RW.

Colorado would probably ask for a left D.

Palat - Johnson - Kucherov
Landeskog - Drouin - Stamkos
Filppula - Namestnikov - Callahan
or
Palat - Johnson - Kucherov
Landeskog - Stamkos - Drouin
Filppula - Namestnikov - Callahan


SO...

What does it take?

Killorn + Koekkoek?
Killorn + Nesterov + 2nd/Erne?
Less? More?

IF the Avalanche prefer Filppula over Soderberg then both could possibly be added into the deal to give Colorado more value. Not sure that's the case though.

Thoughts?

Young top 4 D with #1 potential. No less. Certainly not Killorn+.

 

[DavidBL]

They want D. The asking price from Ana was Lindholm, which they declined, but the rumors surround him, or Trouba mostly.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Young top 4 D with #1 potential. No less. Certainly not Killorn+.

You know there's only about 12 of those in the league and one of them just got traded straight up for Taylor Hall right? Maybe 16-20 if you wanna get liberal with the phrase "#1 potential".

That may be what it takes to trade him but nobody will give Sakic/Roy that value. Perhaps they're just doing their due dilligence to see if any teams will pay up.

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Yeah, highly doubt landeskog goes for that. Guy is a horse and the capitan of the team; doubt avs would do anything less than Ristolainen or lindholm... of which neither is likely.

 

[XO]

Filppula and value don't belong in the same sentence

 

[DavidBL]

You know there's only about 12 of those in the league and one of them just got traded straight up for Taylor Hall right? Maybe 16-20 if you wanna get liberal with the phrase "#1 potential".

That may be what it takes to trade him but nobody will give Sakic/Roy that value. Perhaps they're just doing their due dilligence to see if any teams will pay up.

That's most likely the case. I doubt he is truly available. I could see them settling for a tier below D if they're intent on doing it but they probably have other options. As it is I'd say that's their price. No reason to downgrade for a lesser player in the same general position though. There are other contracts they can move if they want to cut salary.

 

[Rschmitz]

We can't afford Landeskog, nor do we need him.

That not being the case, it sounds like the Av's would want Koekkoek.

 

[Todd1a]

We can't afford Landeskog, nor do we need him.

That not being the case, it sounds like the Av's would want Koekkoek.

Ya tampa needs to shed money moving jason garrison would be the move they need to do

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

You have a young stud d? If not your aren't getting in landy

 

[Nordic*]

Lando is a young two-way monster and captain.

Aquiring him will take a lot more than the OP offer.

Like A LOT more.

 

[Captain Timo]

Errrr.. This offer is severely underrating Landeskog. He can easily fetch a bonafide young top-4 dman, his value is way higher than what is coming back in this proposal.

 

[gretskidoo]

What a great offer! Here's one from Detroit.

Nyquist + Ouellet + 3rd for Landeskog. Wow, so enticing for the Avs.

 

[Balthazar]

I read somewhere last month that Colorado may or may not be putting Landeskog on their trade block.=

AVS have exactly one (1) legit top 6 winger. His name is Landeskog. They need four (4) but only have one. He's not on the trade block.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Avs have zero reason to move their Captain and only top 6 winger that just so happens to be a 1st line two way stud that isn't even 25 years old. You want him, it'd have to be a really big offer. It wouldn't be close to fair value. Again, the Avs have no reason or need to move Landeskog.

Taylor Hall got Larsson, but I value Landeskog's play higher than I do Hall's, and Chia had to do something to fix their defense. Colorado is not in the same position as Edmonton was when they made that trade.

Sakic has turned in to a shrewd negotiator. Don't want to meet his asking price? Fine. The Avs biggest problem right now is arguably their coach. So don't expect players to be available for pennies on the dollar.

 

[tucker3434]

Since you aren't a bolts fan, I won't bother to assemble a list of players that would be acceptable center pieces of a Landeskog trade. I'll just say Killorn isn't one of them.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

in fairness this is not a lightning fan or avs fan who made this

that being said landy would fetch tyler johnson or close over killorn as main piece so is no deal and rightly so

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Any deal involving Tampa and Landeskog would never, ever have Killorn as the main piece.


He's be an add in to the main piece.

Drouin + Killorn is what it would take. No less then that.

 

[Brent Burns Beard]

You know there's only about 12 of those in the league and one of them just got traded straight up for Taylor Hall right? Maybe 16-20 if you wanna get liberal with the phrase "#1 potential".

That may be what it takes to trade him but nobody will give Sakic/Roy that value. Perhaps they're just doing their due dilligence to see if any teams will pay up.

Even if what u say I s true.

Landeskog > Hall

Avs aren't trading their captain for "pieces".

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Landeskog and Iginla for Carle, Garrison, Killorn, 1st 2017 and 2nd 2017

Landeskog-Stamkos-Drouin
Palat-Johnson-Kucherov
Point-Filppula-Iginla
Paquette-Boyle-Namestnikov
Callahan

Hedman-Stralman
Koekkoek-Sustr
Coburn-Nestorov

Vasilevsky
Bishop

Also gives Iggy a good chance to win the cup. But need to find a way to get rid of Filppula and Callahan, maybe a buyout on Callahan.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Even if what u day is true.

Landeskog > Hall

Also this.




A strong two way winger like Landeskog, Benn, Hossa, Pavelski, etc. is much more valuable(In general, obviously some exceptions like Kane and Ovy) to a cup contending team then a more one dimensional winger like Tarasenko, Hall, Nash, etc.



Hall might produce more points then Landeskog, but Landy brings so much more to the table then a guy like Hall. The stuff championship teams are built on. I dont think you'd find any Avs fans that would move Landy for Hall in a straight swap.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Landeskog and Iginla for Carle, Garrison, Killorn, 1st 2017 and 2nd 2017

Landeskog-Stamkos-Drouin
Palat-Johnson-Kucherov
Point-Filppula-Iginla
Paquette-Boyle-Namestnikov
Callahan

Hedman-Stralman
Koekkoek-Sustr
Coburn-Nestorov

Vasilevsky
Bishop

Also gives Iggy a good chance to win the cup. But need to find a way to get rid of Filppula and Callahan, maybe a buyout on Callahan.

Right, so the Avs trade our 23 year old captain and star 1st line Winger, and we unload a bad contract that has 1 year left on it, and in return we get not 1 but 2 even worse contracts in Carle/Garrison, and our reward for the god awful contracts is a 3rd line winger, and basically a 2nd + 3rd round pick(Since Tampa would almost certainly be picking 27-30 range after this trade).



Why dont we just give you Mackinnon + Duchene for Fillpulla + Callahan while we're at it?


Absolutely one of the worst trades I've seen proposed in a long time on these boards. I mean wow, think before you post please.

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

Any deal involving Tampa and Landeskog would never, ever have Killorn as the main piece.


He's be an add in to the main piece.

Drouin + Killorn is what it would take. No less then that.

Pack it up boys, no deal to be had here.

 

[tucker3434]

Landeskog and Iginla for Carle, Garrison, Killorn, 1st 2017 and 2nd 2017

Landeskog-Stamkos-Drouin
Palat-Johnson-Kucherov
Point-Filppula-Iginla
Paquette-Boyle-Namestnikov
Callahan

Hedman-Stralman
Koekkoek-Sustr
Coburn-Nestorov

Vasilevsky
Bishop

Also gives Iggy a good chance to win the cup. But need to find a way to get rid of Filppula and Callahan, maybe a buyout on Callahan.

Didn't Carle get bought out?

Regardless, extremely easy no.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Pack it up boys, no deal to be had here.

Exactly.


Tampa will want to keep its cost controlled potential game breaking forward in Drouin, while the Avs dont want to move its 23 year old Captain and already proven Top line Winger signed to a great contract.



No deal to be made for either side.