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LAKings have traded Austin Wagner to #Blackhawks for future considerations.

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Yeah, he's been a good soldier and Chicago probably looking to give him a shot. Good for Austin, good for AEG's wallet.

I just don't see the brain to be a 4th liner unfortunately, he certainly has the raw tools. rooting for him to put it together though, he was a battler in a dark time for us, at least he hits and stands up for teammates.
 
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I'm actually happy about this and not sure why it wasn't done far sooner. Despite his flaws, I always felt that he was productive enough to warrant bottom 6 consideration somewhere else, and I am glad he has a chance to go somewhere else to try again regardless if it is in the NHL or AHL. If he literally could combine his skating ability with like any other talent of passing or shooting he could have easily of been a NHL'er.
 
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How do future considerations get consolidated? Do the Kings inquire the Blackhawks at some point for a trade, or during a trade, and pull out their future considerations card for leverage...or vice versa? Do they tell the NHL for a given trade that the previous future consideration has been fulfilled?
 
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bouncesonly said:
How do future considerations get consolidated? Do the Kings inquire the Blackhawks at some point for a trade, or during a trade, and pull out their future considerations card for leverage...or vice versa? Do they tell the NHL for a given trade that the previous future consideration has been fulfilled?
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I've seen reciprocal future consideration deals in the past, but there is no obligation to it. It is mainly the trade jargon for saying free for the most part unless there is a stipulation outlined. Like, they are free unless they score 100 points, then you owe us a 7th rounder or something :P

The conclusion of this deal is Blake calling the Hawks and saying: "Remember when we traded Austin Wagner to you guys?" and then them going "Oh yeah! That was funny!" and then they both laugh and hang up the phone.

Edit - Because of confusion - A player cannot be traded for "free" but in the modern era, to satisfy the conditions for future considerations, payment will be made by swapping lower picks for those considerations or similar. So at some point in the future, the Kings will swap 7th-rounders with Chicago or similar. Therefore, to us, it is essentially being free, unless there are any other stipulations added to the deal as I explained before.
 
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Basically at some point in the future the Blackhawks send a pick or player the Kings way. It's just a way of delaying a trade being completed in the NHL. In this case it's likely either a draft pick dependent on how Wagner plays, or a player that the Kings will get this summer, but they need the roster spot or cap space right now for other things.
 
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Telos said:
I've seen reciprocal future consideration deals in the past, but there is no obligation to it. It is mainly the trade jargon for saying free for the most part unless there is a stipulation outlined. Like, they are free unless they score 100 points, then you owe us a 7th rounder or something :P

The conclusion of this deal is Blake calling the Hawks and saying: "Remember when we traded Austin Wagner to you guys?" and then them going "Oh yeah! That was funny!" and then they both laugh and hang up the phone.
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This isn't true at all under the new cap. There has to be some sort of close or end to the deal. It just isn't happening now, but at some point it has to.
 
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This isn't true at all under the new cap. There has to be some sort of close or end to the deal. It just isn't happening now, but at some point it has to.
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It is and it isn't. Sure, a player cannot be traded for "free", but the Kings are not guaranteed a return that equals a pick or player. There are many workarounds and loopholes and as far as the average fan is concerned, the return can be so negligible to notice.

Teams cannot trade cash like the infamous Kris Draper for $1 deal, but they can swap 5th rounders and say there you go, and so on. It is almost always satisfied by a swap of lower-end draft picks with considerations in the modern era.

Essentially, the Kings just traded a 7th-round pick for a 7th-round pick. Therefore, as far as we are concerned, it is for free.
 
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Joins (well, already joined since its been over for awhile) Scott Parse as one of my all-time "this guy is better than all of you are saying" guys. I really carried water for him when everyone was shitting on him. Team was so bad that everyone was destroying him for not being able to score on breakaways but my counter was "but at least he can actually get breakaways" and I completely meant it. You know what: I still do mean it. God those teams sucked. If you were paying for seats during the dark days of the Blake Tank, at least it was fun seeing him put on the afterburners.

Is kind of wild though that a guy with that size who could compete for fastest skater in the NHL just couldn't figure out the brain part. 2018-'20 me would be shocked if you told me that he wasn't at least a healthy scratch on an NHL team somewhere just based on the elite speed with good size.
 
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BigKing said:
Joins (well, already joined since its been over for awhile) Scott Parse as one of my all-time "this guy is better than all of you are saying" guys. I really carried water for him when everyone was shitting on him. Team was so bad that everyone was destroying him for not being able to score on breakaways but my counter was "but at least he can actually get breakaways" and I completely meant it. You know what: I still do mean it. God those teams sucked. If you were paying for seats during the dark days of the Blake Tank, at least it was fun seeing him put on the afterburners.

Is kind of wild though that a guy with that size who could compete for fastest skater in the NHL just couldn't figure out the brain part. 2018-'20 me would be shocked if you told me that he wasn't at least a healthy scratch on an NHL team somewhere just based on the elite speed with good size.
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That was my feeling as well. He wasn't finishing, but he was a part of so many chances it had to eventually start going in.
 
Telos said:
It is and it isn't. Sure, a player cannot be traded for "free", but the Kings are not guaranteed a return that equals a pick or player. There are many workarounds and loopholes and as far as the average fan is concerned, the return can be so negligible to notice.

Teams cannot trade cash like the infamous Kris Draper for $1 deal, but they can swap 5th rounders and say there you go, and so on. It is almost always satisfied by a swap of lower-end draft picks with considerations in the modern era.

Essentially, the Kings just traded a 7th-round pick for a 7th-round pick. Therefore, as far as we are concerned, it is for free.
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It's going to be a very high 7th round pick, so keep that in mind. :nod:
 
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