Kings Article: LAKings Anze Kopitar Deserves To Win 2013-14 Selke Trophy, But Don’t Hold Your Breath

[FrozenRoyalty]

LA Kings Anze Kopitar Deserves To Win 2013-14 Selke Trophy, But Don’t Hold Your Breath

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[Whiskeypete]

hell will freeze over before kopitar wins the selke, quick wins the vezina, or drew wins the norris. with global temps rising this further decreases the chances of hell freezing over.....

 

[Battle Hymns]

gann hit the nail on the head. the NHL awards are meant for about 20 teams and the Kings aren't one of them. nhl has got to have THE laziest voters of any professional sport.

 

[etherialone]

Sort of on topic but I get to go to the GM meetings every now and then (for various peon duties) and last summer there was an all hands meeting regarding making an NHL Offices West that would be a shadow of the what the NHL is doing now from NYC.

It is an ongoing conversation or so I have heard. I don't know how or if it would effect voting or even provide much more than a little peace of mind for the Western Conference teams but it was talked about and wasn't simply "shelved".

I have asked around and haven't heard anything more but if it could happen it might be one way of getting everyone the kind of recognition that not only do they deserve but also could force the NHL to be more proactive towards each and every one of it's team as opposed to the few they seem to favor today.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Sort of on topic but I get to go to the GM meetings every now and then (for various peon duties) and last summer there was an all hands meeting regarding making an NHL Offices West that would be a shadow of the what the NHL is doing now from NYC.

It is an ongoing conversation or so I have heard. I don't know how or if it would effect voting or even provide much more than a little peace of mind for the Western Conference teams but it was talked about and wasn't simply "shelved".

I have asked around and haven't heard anything more but if it could happen it might be one way of getting everyone the kind of recognition that not only do they deserve but also could force the NHL to be more proactive towards each and every one of it's team as opposed to the few they seem to favor today.

Would be kind of cool, but I could see that causing organizational concerns. As much as it causes us pain, it's important to have a centralized office. I would definitely be in favor of an "NHL West" base of operations if it meant more exposure and support, but I guess I have to question the organizational leadership anyway if league officials can't be assed to keep eyes on 7 hours of games on weekdays anyway. that's not even a full-time job!

(I know I'm oversimplifying but eh. Always miffed by that.)

SOmeone in another thread made an important point imo about Bergeron getting ALL the east votes while the 'western' votes would likely get split at best from Kopitar/Toews/even Datsyuik.

 

[etherialone]

Would be kind of cool, but I could see that causing organizational concerns. As much as it causes us pain, it's important to have a centralized office. I would definitely be in favor of an "NHL West" base of operations if it meant more exposure and support, but I guess I have to question the organizational leadership anyway if league officials can't be assed to keep eyes on 7 hours of games on weekdays anyway. that's not even a full-time job!

(I know I'm oversimplifying but eh. Always miffed by that.)

SOmeone in another thread made an important point imo about Bergeron getting ALL the east votes while the 'western' votes would likely get split at best from Kopitar/Toews/even Datsyuik.

Too true.

One of the suggestions I had also heard was that the owners of the western conference teams unite and insist the the NHL offices move itself to a neutral location that is more centralized geographically. The NHL's response was that if the owners want the sport to continue to expand and receive any media coverage that they simply have to remain in New York.

I think that the NHL should want to run all of its hockey operations out of the middle of North America and then run its media relations from NY if it truly believes that they must be there in order to continue on.

My hope is that at the very least the NHL and its owners/gm's have started a conversation that could lead to a little bit more balance. It might take a decade to make happen but there is always hope.

 

[tsanuri]

Moving the offices wouldn't really move the writers.
It's really all about where the teams are.
4 Pac, 4 Mountain, 6 Central, and 16 East. The writers are where the teams are. And then where the major media has it's offices. And in both cases that means mostly east.

 

[Whiskeypete]

the best and what i think is the ONLY way to change the mindset is to win. they win games, win titles and win SC's and it is end of conversation. look at how much 2012 has done to begin re-shaping perceptions of what is happening in LA. it has also helped to keep the spotlight on the Pacific division as a whole with ANH and SJ winning as well.

 

[Little Psycho]

@TSNBobMcKenzie: BOS Patrice Bergeron clear Selke (top defensive forward) winner, 10 of 16 1st place votes, followed by (in order) Toews, Kopitar and Backes.

Toews doesn't have to do anything and he'll still be ahead of Kopi.

"Clear winner" **** off bias media

 

[KingKopitar11*]

How ****ing stupid. This is why the eastern conference is a joke.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah, I'm over fighting the good fight. Don't even care anymore. Obviously playing at 7:30 EST is a talent that nothing playing at 10:30 EST can supersede.

 

[Whiskeypete]

no surprise

won't surprise me if Datsyuk had some votes still, even though he hasn't played a good portion of the season

the likelihood of winning any of these awards that isn't solely awarded on stats, diminishes the further west a player's home team resides

and if this below is true, it just bares out this is a popularity contest award.
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Robert P. ‏@RobertJFTC 11m
Toews has started twice as many shifts in the o-zone as he has in the d-zone & has been on ice for more shots & goals against than Kopitar.

 

[Scottkmlps]

Not to nitpick, but that's coaches, not the media who vote on the award.

 

[KingKopitar11*]

Kopitar has 65 points
Bergeron has 60 points.
Toews has 68 points.


Kopitar deserved this. I feel bad for Kopitar.

 

[Whiskeypete]

Not to nitpick, but that's coaches, not the media who vote on the award.

supposedly its BMac interviewing coaches in an unofficial poll

 

[FrozenRoyalty]

Not to nitpick, but that's coaches, not the media who vote on the award.

If you're referring to the Selke Trophy, no, media get to vote on it, not the coaches.

I know this first-hand, having voted on it in each of the last four seasons.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

@TSNBobMcKenzie: BOS Patrice Bergeron clear Selke (top defensive forward) winner, 10 of 16 1st place votes, followed by (in order) Toews, Kopitar and Backes.

Toews doesn't have to do anything and he'll still be ahead of Kopi.

"Clear winner" **** off bias media

Further proves how the Selke is just a reputation award. I can understand if they said Bergeron barely edged out Kopi, but to say he's the clear winner and put Toews ahead of Kopi is utter ********.

 

[Reclamation Project]

If you're referring to the Selke Trophy, no, media get to vote on it, not the coaches.

I know this first-hand, having voted on it in each of the last four seasons.

Make us proud this year!

 

[Scottkmlps]

If you're referring to the Selke Trophy, no, media get to vote on it, not the coaches.

I know this first-hand, having voted on it in each of the last four seasons.

THat's what I meant, just worded it worng.

 

[PJ Kings Hockey]

Yeah, I'm over fighting the good fight. Don't even care anymore. Obviously playing at 7:30 EST is a talent that nothing playing at 10:30 EST can supersede.

Brilliant.

 

[YP44]

@TSNBobMcKenzie: BOS Patrice Bergeron clear Selke (top defensive forward) winner, 10 of 16 1st place votes, followed by (in order) Toews, Kopitar and Backes.

Toews doesn't have to do anything and he'll still be ahead of Kopi.

"Clear winner" **** off bias media

This is what 16 coaches voted for. Mostly likely all 16 eastern teams.

I think kopitar deserves more mention but it is also hard to argue with Bergeron. It is a two horse race IMO, both are deserving.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

In all due respect, who gives a ****? I truely only care about one trophy and I don't care if the Kings players get accolades or (meaningless) trophies. Most of us like to criticize the articles written by the voters and suddenly all of a sudden we care who they vote for on these popularity contest?

 

[PJ Kings Hockey]

Kopitar has 65 points
Bergeron has 60 points.
Toews has 68 points.


Kopitar deserved this. I feel bad for Kopitar.

There was an article about this on ProHockeyTalk. In the comments section, virtually all the posts said that Bergeron was the obvious choice for Selke. Not one poster mentioned Kopitar. Not one. I don't think Kopitar is even in the public consciousness. Stats be...darned.

IMO all ballots should include relevant statistics.

 

[Whiskeypete]

In all due respect, who gives a ****? I truely only care about one trophy and I don't care if the Kings players get accolades or (meaningless) trophies. Most of us like to criticize the articles written by the voters and suddenly all of a sudden we care who they vote for on these popularity contest?

good point Buddy, but these trophies i actually do care about.

i still feel that Quick should have won the Hart two seasons ago, without him LA doesn't even make the playoffs let alone win the SC. he wasn't even nominated. the awards are based on regular season performance, so the SC run doesn't factor into the equation. back to my point though, without Quick keeping LA in the hunt they don't qualify for the playoffs.

Kopitar for years has been 'mentioned' as a candidate. he still hasn't broken through and won. as of now it appears he's the third horse in a race that should be a coin toss between himself and Bergeron.

Doughty can't get a sniff, because he doesn't rack up 60+ points any longer. he isn't a one trick pony like Subban, or struggle like Karlsson and OEL very often in the D zone. Drew plays a full 200 feet and is easily one of the top 5 best all around D men in the world, but he doesn't score enough. to me DD ranks along D Keith, S Weber and R Suter as the top all around D men in the NHL. there is no disputing any of them in any section of the ice. all of them can play the shutdown role, score goals, play PP/PK and log tons of ice time.

Quick....he won't get the Vezina until he can play without injury. even before that though no matter what Henrik L does he will continue to be the front runner.

i guarantee these awards mean a lot to these guys. it is an acknowledgment of their dedication and professionalism. to be overlooked and in my opinion even slighted, i guarantee it burns them personally. i know it would piss me off

LA players winning the awards further strengthens and legitimizes Kings hockey - period. the team wins, they compete for SC's and win the major trophies it changes the culture of not just LA Kings hockey but the NHL landscape.

 

[Arrhizal]

The way the votes are coming in I doubt that Kopi wins the Selke. :'/ Bergeron is obviously very deserving as well, but it would be nice if the league honour our Slovenian phenomenon.