Value of: Laine to Ottawa

[Akrapovince]

Senators are looking to turn the corner and I potentially think our forward lines could be complete with a top six right winger that fits the timeline.

Brady - Norris - Batherson
Formenton - Stützle - Laine
Paul - Pinto - Brown
Kastelic, Greig, Watson, Sanford, etc

Available potential assets:
22’ first round pick & second round pick
23’ first round pick & second round pick
Greig
Connor Brown / Sokolov (would assume you would have to keep one or other)
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Lassi Thomson

Would any combination of these things be enough for Laine or would Sanderson have to be part of the deal?

I don’t know if I remember correctly but just another question, did Laine state that he had a preference to not play in Canada?

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[YP44]

I am pretty big on Greig and think he would be a nice pickup for the Blue Jackets. Him and a first seems fair from a far, but I am no blue jacket fan.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Maybe something around your pick at draft day. He'd be worth a lot, but also comes with some uncertainty.

 

[Akrapovince]

Maybe something around your pick at draft day. He'd be worth a lot, but also comes with some uncertainty.

That would be amazing for the deal with an extension in place to happen on draft day. Would make it pretty simple.

If Kemell is there at our pick, draft the player. If not, trade for Laine and let Columbus restock their shelves with the BPA.

 

[heretik27]

It's been a while, but I think the biggest issue was that Laine wanted to get fed top line minutes with top line players. Yet, he wasn't really putting in the effort to force the issue and Wheeler/Scheifele didn't seem to want to carry Laine's dead weight on the forecheck while he floated around waiting for a pass. Right now, he's Columbus's top dog and is still an RFA at the end of this contract. I could see Jarmo offering him a pay raise based on the team needing his production and keeping him. I doubt Ottawa wants to pay Laine 8M+ AAV to play the second line as you suggested in the OP. It feels like he's been around for a while, but Laine will only be 24 heading into next season. There's no way a team like Columbus gives up on him yet, especially not for more prospects.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

It's been a while, but I think the biggest issue was that Laine wanted to get fed top line minutes with top line players. Yet, he wasn't really putting in the effort to force the issue and Wheeler/Scheifele didn't seem to want to carry Laine's dead weight on the forecheck while he floated around waiting for a pass. Right now, he's Columbus's top dog and is still an RFA at the end of this contract. I could see Jarmo offering him a pay raise based on the team needing his production and keeping him. I doubt Ottawa wants to pay Laine 8M+ AAV to play the second line as you suggested in the OP. It feels like he's been around for a while, but Laine will only be 24 heading into next season. There's no way a team like Columbus gives up on him yet, especially not for more prospects.

If its strictly a money thing, I'll be shocked if Jarmo gets outbid for Laine's services. He loves him.

 

[Dumais]

Pass, we need quality more than quantity. We have plenty of prospects with potential at every position so I imagine Jarmo would be looking for a 1 for 1 trade. Or maybe a highly touted center prospect that is NHL ready...but even then, we have Sillinger and Johnson coming up. And IDK about trade value wise in a vacuum.

 

[Akrapovince]

Pass, we need quality more than quantity. We have plenty of prospects with potential at every position so I imagine Jarmo would be looking for a 1 for 1 trade. Or maybe a highly touted center prospect that is NHL ready...but even then, we have Sillinger and Johnson coming up. And IDK about trade value wise in a vacuum.

That’s what I was thinking, you have to give to get and if I’m Columbus I’d probably be asking for Sanderson +

 

[Samsquanch]

Hard pass from Ottawa. There is not a fit at all.

The style of team that Ottawa is trying to build is centered around hard working, team first players that play equally hard at both ends of the rink.

Laine needs to go somewhere like Toronto with a Sheldon Keefe type coach and a free floating system. Or Edmonton where throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is the only hope at this point. There's lots of other teams he would fit better on than CBJ, but Ottawa is definitely not one of them.

Ottawa is trying to build their team like how Boston, Vegas or Carolina did (and playing like how Trotz runs the Islanders, or how like Torts ran the Blue Jackers) - its a total team commitment to fast, hard play at both ends of the rink from all of the players on the roster. No wiggle room. One dimensional players need not apply.

So knowing what we already know, Laine and head coach DJ Smith would mix about as well as oil and water do. So this is a complete non-starter for the Sens imo, and it would be baffling to see them push all the chips on such an inherently flawed player with a counter culture to their current teams identity.

 

[majormajor]

Hard pass from Ottawa. There is not a fit at all.

The style of team that Ottawa is trying to build is centered around hard working, team first players that play equally hard at both ends of the rink.

Laine needs to go somewhere like Toronto with a Sheldon Keefe type coach and a free floating system. Or Edmonton where throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is the only hope at this point. There's lots of other teams he would fit better on than CBJ, but Ottawa is definitely not one of them.

Ottawa is trying to build their team like how Boston, Vegas or Carolina did (and playing like how Trotz runs the Islanders, or how like Torts ran the Blue Jackers) - its a total team commitment to fast, hard play at both ends of the rink from all of the players on the roster. No wiggle room. One dimensional players need not apply.

So knowing what we already know, Laine and head coach DJ Smith would mix about as well as oil and water do. So this is a complete non-starter for the Sens imo, and it would be hilarious seeing them push all the chips on such an inherently flawed player with a counter culture to their current teams identity.

I watch both teams a fair bit and I would say that Laine would fit right in in Ottawa. Quite the opposite of your out of date opinions, Laine is typically first backchecker and engaged defensively. This year I've seen Josh Norris fail on the backcheck more often than Laine. Laine's shortcomings are more in the offensive transition and on the forecheck.

 

[Samsquanch]

I watch both teams a fair bit and I would say that Laine would fit right in in Ottawa. Quite the opposite of your out of date opinions, Laine is typically first backchecker and engaged defensively. This year I've seen Josh Norris fail on the backcheck more often than Laine. Laine's shortcomings are more in the offensive transition and on the forecheck.

If Laine is a two-way threat with great character, a good teammate in the locker room, and a beast of a goal-scorer - then he wouldnt be looking for a 3rd team before he turned 24. Thats a hard fact to get around, and it becomes a non-starter for a team that cant afford to make mistakes of this magnitude.

Hes probably a great player in a bad string of situations, but I promise you Ill delete my account if Ottawa trades for him. You might know Laine - but its clear that you are equally clueless about Ottawa for even wondering if this kind of trade would ever hit their table. It wouldnt.

 

[majormajor]

If Laine is a two-way threat with great character, a good teammate in the locker room, and a beast of a goal-scorer - then he wouldnt be looking for a 3rd team before he turned 24. Thats a hard fact to get around, and it becomes a non-starter for a team that cant afford to make mistakes of this magnitude.

Hes probably a great player in a bad string of situations, but I promise you Ill delete my account if Ottawa trades for him. You might know Laine - but its clear that you are equally clueless about Ottawa for even wondering if this kind of trade would ever hit their table. It wouldnt.

Laine isn't looking for a 3rd team. And I never said what Ottawa was going to do.

 

[Samsquanch]

Laine isn't looking for a 3rd team. And I never said what Ottawa was going to do.

So what do you care about what I think about this trade then? All I said was that he was not the type of player that Ottawa will target.

Sorry if that triggered you. If Laine is happy in CBJ then I guess thats great news for all. I doubt he wants to go to Ottawa, and the feeling is mutual. Ottawa is doing fine at LW and Laine isnt the right fit for a variety of reasons. Great talk I guess?

 

[TBF1972]

Laine is on good behavior. Does he look to get paid in form of a long term contract? Would you be confident he keeps this up over the full term?

Me not and therefore I wouldn't trade for Laine, as he won't sign the contract I comfortably offer him.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

Laine is on good behavior. Does he look to get paid in form of a long term contract? Would you be confident he keeps this up over the full term?

Me not and therefore I wouldn't trade for Laine, as he won't sign the contract I comfortably offer him.

Did you research this or are you just guessing......again?

 

[BB88]

If Laine is a two-way threat with great character, a good teammate in the locker room, and a beast of a goal-scorer - then he wouldnt be looking for a 3rd team before he turned 24. Thats a hard fact to get around, and it becomes a non-starter for a team that cant afford to make mistakes of this magnitude.

Hes probably a great player in a bad string of situations, but I promise you Ill delete my account if Ottawa trades for him. You might know Laine - but its clear that you are equally clueless about Ottawa for even wondering if this kind of trade would ever hit their table. It wouldnt.

Who says he’s looking for 3rd team?

and majormajor didn’t say he’s an awesome 2 way player

This thread was started by Ottawa fan

 

[KevinRedkey]

I'd stay away from Laine, personally. He doesn't play the way the Sens are built.

I'd also rather they go after a smaller fish like Kasperi Kapanen.

 

[TBF1972]

Did you research this or are you just guessing......again?

It's my opinion. You are entitled to your own.

But you are not entitled to police the opinion of others.

 

[Akrapovince]

Hard pass from Ottawa. There is not a fit at all.

The style of team that Ottawa is trying to build is centered around hard working, team first players that play equally hard at both ends of the rink.

Laine needs to go somewhere like Toronto with a Sheldon Keefe type coach and a free floating system. Or Edmonton where throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is the only hope at this point. There's lots of other teams he would fit better on than CBJ, but Ottawa is definitely not one of them.

Ottawa is trying to build their team like how Boston, Vegas or Carolina did (and playing like how Trotz runs the Islanders, or how like Torts ran the Blue Jackers) - its a total team commitment to fast, hard play at both ends of the rink from all of the players on the roster. No wiggle room. One dimensional players need not apply.

So knowing what we already know, Laine and head coach DJ Smith would mix about as well as oil and water do. So this is a complete non-starter for the Sens imo, and it would be baffling to see them push all the chips on such an inherently flawed player with a counter culture to their current teams identity.

I see the Ottawa Senators as a team that’s built like the St. Louis blues championship roster where Laine could play the role of Tarasenko.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

It's my opinion. You are entitled to your own.

But you are not entitled to police the opinion of others.

Just noticing a trend.

 

[TBF1972]

Just noticing a trend.

I guess you are good at noticing stuff.

 

[cslebn]

It's my opinion. You are entitled to your own.

But you are not entitled to police the opinion of others.

What is the basis of your opinion?

Not saying I think Laine is right for Ottawa but I'm curious why you don't.

 

[Morbo]

Hard pass from Ottawa. There is not a fit at all.

The style of team that Ottawa is trying to build is centered around hard working, team first players that play equally hard at both ends of the rink.

Laine needs to go somewhere like Toronto with a Sheldon Keefe type coach and a free floating system. Or Edmonton where throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is the only hope at this point. There's lots of other teams he would fit better on than CBJ, but Ottawa is definitely not one of them.

Ottawa is trying to build their team like how Boston, Vegas or Carolina did (and playing like how Trotz runs the Islanders, or how like Torts ran the Blue Jackers) - its a total team commitment to fast, hard play at both ends of the rink from all of the players on the roster. No wiggle room. One dimensional players need not apply.

So knowing what we already know, Laine and head coach DJ Smith would mix about as well as oil and water do. So this is a complete non-starter for the Sens imo, and it would be baffling to see them push all the chips on such an inherently flawed player with a counter culture to their current teams identity.

????

Free floating system?

better check again.

 

[jonlin]

Laine last 6gp 7g 5a 12p. Starting to work more too

 

[Viqsi]

Laine last 6gp 7g 5a 12p. Starting to work more too

At this rate he stands a good chance of pricing himself out of the trade market entirely.