Lack of A Right Handed Shot Up Front

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rvdnsx

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May seem like a minor problem but I think its a pretty big deal not having enough right handed guys up front. Most if not all teams have a decent balance of righties and lefties at forward. The Rangers have Stepan and Derek Dorsett. I think it makes a big difference on the power play to have a right handed shot on the off wing for one timers and for set up. Thats one thing we definitely lost with Cally. Its tough seeing our power play struggle and at times have five lefties out there when Richards and McDonagh play the point. Anyone else think this may be part of the issue?
 
It is an issue but I don't see any way for it to be fixed at the moment. I certainly don't like how we play two lefties on the point though when we really don't need to do that. The problem there is our righty shot who could play the point Diaz doesn't have a spot in the lineup. I'd obviously prefer two lefties Richards/McDonagh than any of Girardi/Stralman/Klein out there.
 
Been saying this for a while.

Thomas Vanek would be a godsend for this team. I'd use our Richards buyout money on him over any other available center.
 
Been saying this for a while.

Thomas Vanek would be a godsend for this team. I'd use our Richards buyout money on him over any other available center.

We're going to need that money for other people:

Stralman, Boyle, Pouliot, and D. Moore are UFAs

Zuccarello, Kreider, Brassard, and J. Moore are RFAs

Maybe we snag a misused possession monster like Grabovski on the cheap. Otherwise it'll be time to find out what Miller/Lindberg can give us.
 
We're going to need that money for other people:

Stralman, Boyle, Pouliot, and D. Moore are UFAs

Zuccarello, Kreider, Brassard, and J. Moore are RFAs

Maybe we snag a misused possession monster like Grabovski on the cheap. Otherwise it'll be time to find out what Miller/Lindberg can give us.

Think Stralman is a goner, though he shouldn't be. If Allen or McIlrath are going to be on the team, I want it to be because they beat out J. Moore, not by default because Stralman walked.

Boyle shouldn't cost too much over the 1.7 he makes now. 2.25 maybe.

Ditto for Pouliot. 2 million or more and he can take a hike.

D. Moore is a must re-sign. I'd give him up to 1.5

Zuccarello will be the only one really making more than he is now. He'll get 3.5-4 million on a multi year deal. Kreider and J.Moore will get bridge deals. Next year is make or break for Brassard. He'll get qualified for one year at 3.7 million.

Pending a Richards buyout, there will be money to spend.
 
Think Stralman is a goner, though he shouldn't be. If Allen or McIlrath are going to be on the team, I want it to be because they beat out J. Moore, not by default because Stralman walked.

Boyle shouldn't cost too much over the 1.7 he makes now. 2.25 maybe.

Ditto for Pouliot. 2 million or more and he can take a hike.

D. Moore is a must re-sign. I'd give him up to 1.5

Zuccarello will be the only one really making more than he is now. He'll get 3.5-4 million on a multi year deal. Kreider and J.Moore will get bridge deals. Next year is make or break for Brassard. He'll get qualified for one year at 3.7 million.

Pending a Richards buyout, there will be money to spend.

They can't let Stralman walk. It would be taking a massive step backward.
 
It would be nice but right now the power play has bigger problems, they're having trouble gaining the zone and setting it up. They also need to keep the top unit out there longer. You can't call for a line change every time the puck is cleared. They obviously need to get some rhythm.
 
I want them to sign Strålman. If they do the Rangers will be set up for RD for a couple of years with DanG, Stralsy and Klein. They will have a hell of a D corp moving forward.

I know that Strålman is so incredibly thankful to the Rangers for being given a chance to turn his career around. He's having the time of his life as a player right now and really beleives that he is contributing..as we all can se (he blocks shots, hits and really shows up at games).

He is willing to take a "big" discount just to stay with this team, the only thing is the term. The rumored amounts should be fine with Strålman, but he wants at least 3 years..that's the only issue.

I think it's a no brainer, just sign the guy! If they want to move Strålman or Klein later it will an easy task. They both easily plays good enough and their cap hit is very lucrative (given that Strålman signs at 3-3,3 mill for 3 years).

If someone goes down he can easily eat top minutes and play 25 min per game over a stretch..just sign him.
 
I agree about keeping Stralman. He has been solid all season long.
 
May seem like a minor problem but I think its a pretty big deal not having enough right handed guys up front. Most if not all teams have a decent balance of righties and lefties at forward. The Rangers have Stepan and Derek Dorsett. I think it makes a big difference on the power play to have a right handed shot on the off wing for one timers and for set up. Thats one thing we definitely lost with Cally. Its tough seeing our power play struggle and at times have five lefties out there when Richards and McDonagh play the point. Anyone else think this may be part of the issue?

Well Cally was the best PP goal scorer on this team for the last several seasons, even this season with all the injuries, and is one of the better PP goal scorers in the league. AV not putting him back on the PP when he came back just did not seem right, at that moment the PP had slowly gotten worse, to becoming a train wreck.
 
I want them to sign Strålman. If they do the Rangers will be set up for RD for a couple of years with DanG, Stralsy and Klein. They will have a hell of a D corp moving forward.

I know that Strålman is so incredibly thankful to the Rangers for being given a chance to turn his career around. He's having the time of his life as a player right now and really beleives that he is contributing..as we all can se (he blocks shots, hits and really shows up at games).

He is willing to take a "big" discount just to stay with this team, the only thing is the term. The rumored amounts should be fine with Strålman, but he wants at least 3 years..that's the only issue.

I think it's a no brainer, just sign the guy! If they want to move Strålman or Klein later it will an easy task. They both easily plays good enough and their cap hit is very lucrative (given that Strålman signs at 3-3,3 mill for 3 years).

If someone goes down he can easily eat top minutes and play 25 min per game over a stretch..just sign him.

I don't think that term for Stralman is going to be an issue.

I can see the Rangers going 4-5 years for Anton.

He will be 28 when the 14-15 season starts. A 5 year deal bring him tot he summer when he's going to tune 33.

I'd give him 18 over 5 (3.6 AAV) easily.
 
I don't think that term for Stralman is going to be an issue.

I can see the Rangers going 4-5 years for Anton.

He will be 28 when the 14-15 season starts. A 5 year deal bring him tot he summer when he's going to tune 33.

I'd give him 18 over 5 (3.6 AAV) easily.

Rangers offered 2 years and he/agent wanted minimum 3 or 4. Dollars was fine though.
 
A lack of a RH shot on the off-wing is an issue, but it's not as much of an issue at the point, IMO. Pronger/Niedermayer, McCabe/Kaberle, Markov/Souray were all lefties and they were some of the most lethal tandems in recent memory. It's actually easier for a lefty on his natural side to set up another lefty on his off-side because he isn't required to turn his body to make an accurate pass, or use his backhand.

The problem with the PP is the lack of a true QB, and no movement. People stand still waiting for the puck to come to them. Richards is supposed to be the QB, but he's just a passenger with a big shot. It's entirely possible to have one righty on the PP who plays the off-wing, and for the team to overload the right side of the ice with lefties while the one defender on his natural side runs the show.

Callahan was a net-front presence, not a one-timer threat. Vanek would be the same thing.
 
A lack of a RH shot on the off-wing is an issue, but it's not as much of an issue at the point, IMO. Pronger/Niedermayer, McCabe/Kaberle, Markov/Souray were all lefties and they were some of the most lethal tandems in recent memory. It's actually easier for a lefty on his natural side to set up another lefty on his off-side because he isn't required to turn his body to make an accurate pass, or use his backhand.

The problem with the PP is the lack of a true QB, and no movement. People stand still waiting for the puck to come to them. Richards is supposed to be the QB, but he's just a passenger with a big shot. It's entirely possible to have one righty on the PP who plays the off-wing, and for the team to overload the right side of the ice with lefties while the one defender on his natural side runs the show.

Callahan was a net-front presence, not a one-timer threat. Vanek would be the same thing.

Which this team needs with no Kreider. I believe that's part of why Callahan was traded, maybe AV and co believed Kreider was the net front presence answer. Nash at the front doesn't work. He's a shooter, he's being wasted there.
 
Which this team needs with no Kreider. I believe that's part of why Callahan was traded, maybe AV and co believed Kreider was the net front presence answer. Nash at the front doesn't work. He's a shooter, he's being wasted there.

You're 100% correct. Nash shouldn't be in front of the net, he should be moving the puck around the perimeter. Time to give Boyle a shot.
 
Yes, it's been a problem. I believe Vigneault talked about this earlier in the season, the importance of having a number right-handed shots on the power play. He wanted 3 players who shoot one way and 2 who shoot the other on each unit. This was when the Rangers still had Callahan. More recently, Arniel talked about how St. Louis has needed an adjustment period playing on the Rangers power play because he was used to playing with right-handed shots in Tampa--Stamkos, Purcell, Johnson and Salo. Kostka too but he didn't play much.
 
Lack of a shot period. Who has a big shot on the team? Richards and?

I agree net front is an issue right now. Only poo is good at it.

Nash is useless at fighting for room. He doesn't like contact.
 
If chara can park himself in front of the net on the bruins pp why can't Boyle? I kno the bruins power play isn't the best but putting chara there this year has made a difference
 
If chara can park himself in front of the net on the bruins pp why can't Boyle? I kno the bruins power play isn't the best but putting chara there this year has made a difference

Chara is ultra strong and has superb balance.

Boyle has awful balance. Resistance from a big defenseman like Bortuzzo will have him on his ass pretty quickly.
 
Which this team needs with no Kreider. I believe that's part of why Callahan was traded, maybe AV and co believed Kreider was the net front presence answer. Nash at the front doesn't work. He's a shooter, he's being wasted there.

Wasn't Nash most successful in Columbus when he was playing in front of the net on their PP?
 
Think Stralman is a goner, though he shouldn't be. If Allen or McIlrath are going to be on the team, I want it to be because they beat out J. Moore, not by default because Stralman walked.

Boyle shouldn't cost too much over the 1.7 he makes now. 2.25 maybe.

Ditto for Pouliot. 2 million or more and he can take a hike.

D. Moore is a must re-sign. I'd give him up to 1.5

Zuccarello will be the only one really making more than he is now. He'll get 3.5-4 million on a multi year deal. Kreider and J.Moore will get bridge deals. Next year is make or break for Brassard. He'll get qualified for one year at 3.7 million.

Pending a Richards buyout, there will be money to spend.

Rangers have 16 mil in cap space. Your talking 4 mil for Zucc, close to 4 mil for Brassard, 2 mil for Pouliot, 1.5 for Moore and 2.25 for Boyle.

That leaves aprox 2 mil in cap space before you talk about Kreider and J. Moore's bridge deals, and I doubt you are going to sign either Pouliot or Dom Moore for that low. You are also talking about only having 5 defensemen signed.

So after they dip into Richards buy out space to complete the bridge deals and find an extra defenseman, they certainly aren't going to have enough for any elite level signings, just a grabovski type on the cheap...
 
who is a UFA Righty shot?

I mean the lineup is set to a degree next yr barring a deal. buyout Richards with the cap hit.

Kreider, Stepan, Nash
Pouliott(will resign IMO) Brassard, Zuccarello
Hagelin, X(Righty shot?), MSL
Fast/Miller, Moore(will resign IMO), Dorsett
Carcillo( will resign IMO)
 

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