Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII
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I don't think that is accurate at all. That Danault line has combined to have a .65 PPG this season, having your top 2 scoring lines averaging .65 PPG would be pretty bad, considering our 3rd line has not produced at all offensively. That would be a rough offense to watch, especially on the powerplay. Kopitar is still leading the team in points by 13 right now.
Raccoon Jesus
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Kinda disagree. They're scoring bigtime at even strength and also winning their matchups.
Danault is leading the team with 42 even strength points. Kopi is at 40, arvy and moore 38, kempe 32.
Powerplay points are the difference between Kopi and the pack. 2 Danault lines would be a massive improvement considering the 1st line is getting caved in worse than any other line.
Now if you want to say the PP would be even WORSE without them, that's statistically supportable even though the 2nd unit looks vastly more dangerous...
cyclones22
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Yeah let's not forget that Moore played on the third line aka the line of non-scoring doom for a decent amount of games earlier in the season.
kilowatt
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It's also an unfair comparison because the power play is literally designed to go through Kopitar. If he doesn't have the most power play points by far, considering he gets the most power play time and touches on the power play, it would be pretty concerning and surprising. The entire power play is set up to have him pass to Kempe for a one-timer.
cyclones22
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It's also why we have one of the worst power plays because everyone knows this. Kopi has good vision and is a good passer. But he has no deception in his game which can buy the shooter the split second necessary to beat a goaltender.
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I see your point, but the second unit, despite more movement, is still pretty ineffective.
I'm not saying Kopitar's sharp decline isn't a problem, but it's not THE problem.
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In which case I agree to a point. I think if he’s going to play he needs consistent pp time at this point because that will be a decent vehicle to get his offensive game going. It would be different if the pp was otherwise killing it. I do think development is occurring but certainly not in the way we’d expect. I have no issue focusing on rounding out his D game to provide a platform for him but the lack of PP time is perplexing.
cyclones22
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It's difficult to judge the second power-play unit because number one, they get less time on the power play as the first unit monopolizes most of it. Number two they're often coming onto the ice after the puck has been cleared. So they have to execute a zone entry and then set up. By the time that happens there's not a lot of time left on the power-play.
Just recently TMc has actually started a power-play with the second unit. Even when they do they're only given one or two chances to score before they are called back to the bench for the change. Whereas the first unit can be out there for 90 seconds at times. Kopi isn't THE problem, it's definitely on the coaches mostly. But that first PP unit takes way too much time passing around the perimeter.
I was talking about scoring overall, the powerplay is a big part of scoring and Danault is statistically one of the worst(maybe even the worst) powerplay forward in the league. I just don't think a division winning team can have a number 1 center who scores at .64 points per game pace. Especially now when scoring has increased so much.
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I love this moment as chalk talk. It's a microcosm of the amount of confidence that Adrian has played with this year.
kilowatt
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Man, watching this and comparing Kopitar’s current footspeed is just brutal. For a big guy, Kopi had wheels. Not anymore.
Hes also 35 years old and STILL leading the team in scoring....
kilowatt
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He plays a lot of minutes. Hes out there every key situation. He has stayed out a full two minutes for power plays multiple times. If he wasnt leading the team in scoring that would be a bigger problem. Can you remember any plays or moments this season where you thought he was really driving play and pushing the pace of the game that his team followed?
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It looks like you and I both like a big, solid, D.
MBH
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The Kings just improved their point percentage from .438 to .584 despite missing Doughty a lot of the year.
I get the frustration over Byfield or Kopitar or whatever.
But to me, when the Kings took 5 of 6 points in western Canada with the playoffs on the line? I had to give McClellan some credit.
Kings are 5th in the league in CF%, 4th in SF%. They play a pretty simple but effective game that tips the ice toward the opposition. They also have lwest 5 on 5 shooting percentage in the league by quite a lot.
Only Calgary and NYR have had improved as much as LA.
McClelllan got the message from the GM: He wants the Kings to make the playoffs.
If you want to blame anyone for the Kings deployment of Kaliyev or Byfield, blame Blake.
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Raccoon Jesus
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He's getting outscored by another C on this team at even strength and he's getting absolutely walloped by the opponents at 5v5, worst on the team by a significant amount.
Production is smoke and mirrors when you can't outscore your problems and the coach refuses to adjust your deployment accordingly.
Show me a coach that doesn't....please......it's really a matter of, can you live with the warts he has, knowing he improved the team tenfold
No coach is perfect. Hes the coach of the kings so thats who we talk about. I watch every game and go to some games so yea i live with the warts.
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