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Is Benning willing to settle with a seventeen goal winger?
The Penguins aren't going to trade Kunitz and I imagine they'll keep Fleury until after the season is over. Unless they're going to swap Kunitz for another top-9 LWer, there's really no reason to move him.
What's the equivalent Perron/Hagelin trade this season but with Kunitz?
Some optimistic candidates:
Benoit Pouliot
Justin Abdelkader
Darren Helm
Colin Wilson
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Blake Comeau
Andrs Lee
The whole Eastern Conference thing probably deep-sixes most of those right off the bat though.
Kunitz+MAF for Burrows+Miller
Or
Kunitz for Burrows
Kunitz+MAF for Burrows+Miller
Or
Kunitz for Burrows
(I'm a Penguins fan)
Fleury
Kunitz
for
Ward
Bickell (50 percent retained)
2017 Carolina 2nd round pick
Penguins save $4.3 in cap space and pick up a 2nd rounder. Downside is goaltending quality is lowered. Bickell at $2.0 is easy enough to offload at the deadline if he's not working. Expansion draft issues resolved. Good asset and lots of cap space for trade deadline.
Hurricanes swap an expiring Bickell for an expiring Kunitz. They pay $5.85 instead of $4.0, but only from now until the summer. In exchange for doing so, they get to upgrade Ward for Fleury for only a 2nd rounder.
Worst case scenario is Ward is hot harbage and Pens have to use the 2nd rounder they just received to grab a rental Neuvirth or Enroth at the deadline and run 3 goalies until the 23 man roster limit is removed for playoffs.
Some optimistic candidates:
Benoit Pouliot
Justin Abdelkader
Darren Helm
Colin Wilson
Jean-Gabriel Pageau
Blake Comeau
Andrs Lee
The whole Eastern Conference thing probably deep-sixes most of those right off the bat though.
Who really want's Fleury? Also, what teams can fit them under the cap? Kunitz is UFA after this season. Who's going to give you a return for that?
I'll flip it on you... Fleury is more than likely not going anywhere due to his M-NTC (18 teams) and NMC (forced to be protected in expansion draft). If I was the Pens, I'd be trying to get Trouba for Murray. Murray gives the Jets a really good young goalie (I know they think they have something with Hellebuyck but he's a dime a dozen!) and the Pens get a valuable piece of their defense moving forward.
Who really want's Fleury? Also, what teams can fit them under the cap?
Kunitz is UFA after this season. Who's going to give you a return for that?
I'll flip it on you... Fleury is more than likely not going anywhere due to his M-NTC (18 teams) and NMC (forced to be protected in expansion draft). If I was the Pens, I'd be trying to get Trouba for Murray. Murray gives the Jets a really good young goalie (I know they think they have something with Hellebuyck but he's a dime a dozen!) and the Pens get a valuable piece of their defense moving forward.
I think the only way anything happens with Kunitz is if enough of the kids clearly overtake him for top9 LW spots, in which case it would make a lot of sense to try and offload him. Otherwise I very much doubt that JR would consider dealing him.
The only other scenario I see is where the Pens adds to Kunitz to get an upgrade at the deadline while keeping the other team competitive... like if they're a bubble/outside looking in team. For a pure seller, Kunitz would have negative value being an UFA and having a meaningful salary.
Dealing Fleury is unlikely/difficult enough in itself without adding Kunitz cap-hit to the mix, so it doesn't make much sense to speculate on combos.
Kunitz+MAF for Burrows+Miller
Or
Kunitz for Burrows
Who really want's Fleury? Also, what teams can fit them under the cap? Kunitz is UFA after this season. Who's going to give you a return for that?
I'll flip it on you... Fleury is more than likely not going anywhere due to his M-NTC (18 teams) and NMC (forced to be protected in expansion draft). If I was the Pens, I'd be trying to get Trouba for Murray. Murray gives the Jets a really good young goalie (I know they think they have something with Hellebuyck but he's a dime a dozen!) and the Pens get a valuable piece of their defense moving forward.
Who really want's Fleury? Also, what teams can fit them under the cap? Kunitz is UFA after this season. Who's going to give you a return for that?
I'll flip it on you... Fleury is more than likely not going anywhere due to his M-NTC (18 teams) and NMC (forced to be protected in expansion draft). If I was the Pens, I'd be trying to get Trouba for Murray. Murray gives the Jets a really good young goalie (I know they think they have something with Hellebuyck but he's a dime a dozen!) and the Pens get a valuable piece of their defense moving forward.