Confirmed with Link: [ANA/NYR] Chris Kreider and 2025 4th for Carey Terrance and 2025 3rd

[KaseMeOutside]

What are the resources? Sounds like itll be cheap and the salary with that term will make no difference.

It's cheap because he has a bad back. We can use 6.5 million better than on someone who's broken down and declining

 

[Vipers31]

We are giving up a prospect and a draft pick to take on a $6.5 mil salary dump on a player who might have back issues at age 34. That isn't utilizing the cap space if we're paying to take on a salary dump. This just shows how desperate Verbeek is to want to get to the playoffs this season if we're paying for a salary dump.

If the NYR send us broke back Kreider + a 4th round pick for the infamous future considerations player, then that's utilizing the cap space.

Sure, you can subjectively call him a pure salary dump that you IMO unrealistically expect to get paid for taking. Or you can objectively see a guy who is just one down year away from averaging 40 goals over the three years prior. Obviously, there are also objective concerns regarding his age and health going forward, which is why we’re talking about a rather minimal price, but I don’t think there’s too many cases of players becoming massive cap dumps in such a short time spans, without even one chance to bounce back after one bad year on a clearly otherwise troubled team.

 

[anezthes]

Let's just hope the team did their DUE DILIGENCE re: Kreider's nagging back issue, vertigo, and hand injury.

I'd rather keep Terrance.

 

[Vipers31]

It's cheap because he has a bad back. We can use 6.5 million better than on someone who's broken down and declining

The guy missed 14 games last year after missing four over the three years before that and we’re just supposed to believe that he’s suddenly entirely shot, with no chance of physical rehabilitation? Is there any reporting on that or just the go-to explanation from Rangers fans?

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

Let's just hope the team did their DUE DILIGENCE re: Kreider's nagging back issue, vertigo, and hand injury.

I'd rather keep Terrance.

I’m just hoping we got a pick back or something…. We’re doing the rangers way too many favors and we’re paying them to do favors

 

[AngelDuck]

This is just fine. We’re better and harder to play against than we were and we barely gave anything up.

He fills a need even if he’s what he was last year and if he can bounce back/get more healthy then we’re loving it

One of Strome/Zegras have to be on the move IMO

 

[WhatTheDuck]

This is just fine. We’re better and harder to play against than we were and we barely gave anything up.

He fills a need even if he’s what he was last year and if he can bounce back/get more healthy then we’re loving it

One of Strome/Zegras have to be on the move IMO

I kind of think Strome might be a nice luxury to have as "10th F", ie may line up on the 4th line if everyone is healthy on day one - but you know you can use him virtually anywhere in your top 9 if and when needed.

 

[AngelDuck]

This means that in 2 years Killorn, Kreider, and Strome will be coming off the books (freeing up $18 million in cap space). By that time, if things go right, the ducks cup window should be starting to open

THAT will be the time to go after a big fish.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

This means that in 2 years Killorn, Kreider, and Strome will be coming off the books (freeing up $18 million in cap space). By that time, if things go right, the ducks cup window should be starting to open

THAT will be the time to go after a big fish.

I just think it’s funny we paid for trouba + Kreider

Sharks got paid a 2nd to take walman and then flipped him for a 1st

Don’t get me wrong I think Kreider can help the pp/pk and we have money…. But shit why are we paying

 

[Leonardo87]

I’m about to go nuclear. The Trouba trade actually made the Ducks better and the Rangers worse. They still had much more talent there with high end players like Panarin and Fox and the Ducks and Rangers finished the season only 5 points apart.

Kreider was off last season and was playing injured, if they get anything between the Kreider from last year and the previous year it will be an excellent trade for the Ducks.

People can chill with the “Verbeek is a moron, and Drury has dirt on him”

 

[Kalv]

I’m about to go nuclear. The Trouba trade actually made the Ducks better and the Rangers worse. They still had much more talent there with high end players like Panarin and Fox and the Ducks and Rangers finished the season only 5 points apart.

Kreider was off last season and was playing injured, if they get anything between the Kreider from last year and the previous year it will be an excellent trade for the Ducks.

People can chill with the “Verbeek is a moron, and Drury has dirt on him”

Sorry that it sounds liek it's a bit heartbreaking for you. But if you approve of this for the Ducks then I'm all in, that's all of the confirmation I need.

Outside of losing assests (duh), the one slightly dissapointing thing is – we're taking ourselves out of the Robertson race, I guess.

 

[ShadowDuck]

This seems like a no brainier, basically sending back no value. If he was on the FA market, I think most would be celebrating 6.5x2.

 

[AngelDuck]

I just think it’s funny we paid for trouba + Kreider

Sharks got paid a 2nd to take walman and then flipped him for a 1st

Don’t get me wrong I think Kreider can help the pp/pk and we have money…. But shit why are we paying

The answer, to me, is a couple things:

1) Kreider is better than you think he is and has a decent chance of being a 25-30 goal guy next year. Verbeek knows this and is looking to buy low.

2) Verbeek isn’t as interested in committing a ridiculously overpriced contract for a Marner or Robertson prior the the team being a cup contender. He’d rather go after a guy like this who can help now but you don’t have to commit 7 years to

We’ll see what moves follow but I’m guessing this means that we’re not going to be making any silly long term commitments and will instead be saving that for when we’re actually a contender. That’s great news for Ducks fans.

 

[AngelDuck]

This seems like a no brainier, basically sending back no value. If he was on the FA market, I think most would be celebrating 6.5x2.

Well said. This is what I was trying to get at in the post above!

 

[Duck Off]

I’m withholding final judgment until I see the deal. However, I would feel much better about this trade if Kilorn or Strome was moved.

As someone said, it’s really frustrating that we are paying to take bad contracts. Then see SJ killing it at using their cap space as leverage. That said, if this prevents another Strome/Kilorn free agent deal, which seems likely based on the free agent pool, it’s a win.

 

[AngelDuck]

The other layer here is that I’m reading Kreider is very good defensively, which is something Anaheim seriously lacks at forward outside of Killorn and Carlsson.

I’m liking this more and more. In Kreider’s “terrible” season last year, he had 22 goals in 68 games. If that’s his floor, we’re in great shape on this one

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Doesn't fill me with confidence.

Crazy how Robertson is seen as a bad deal but Krieder would be welcome.

Nobody likes to make deals here. They would rather run it back with the same mediocre squad

If it’s just Terrance and a lower pick, that’s a nice trade for us. Kept Pasta and Nesty

As if either of those three players move the needle in any significant way

 

[tradestheyen]

I think part of the reason I'm mad about this is that I wanted Robertson really bad.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

The answer, to me, is a couple things:

1) Kreider is better than you think he is and has a decent chance of being a 25-30 goal guy next year. Verbeek knows this and is looking to buy low.

2) Verbeek isn’t as interested in committing a ridiculously overpriced contract for a Marner or Robertson prior the the team being a cup contender. He’d rather go after a guy like this who can help now but you don’t have to commit 7 years to

We’ll see what moves follow but I’m guessing this means that we’re not going to be making any silly long term commitments and will instead be saving that for when we’re actually a contender. That’s great news for Ducks fans.

I think Kreider is good personally(watch a lot of ranger games), and I think he’ll be effective addition for us.

But he’s clearly a cap dump, and rangers seemed to have trouble moving him. I like that we’re adding him, I just think we’re over paying. Granted what we’re giving up is essentially nothing

 

[Rooch]

When the "money is no object" idea came down from the Samuelis I expected a pursuit of younger, fresher talent (e.g., Robertson, Marner), not a 35-year-old Kreider. I don't hate that a large swath of our vet leaders are former teammates with established chemistry, but I'd really like to see Verbeek take a bigger swing at evolving players who've proven they can score goals in the NHL. Kreider seems like a Band-Aid to me.

 

[tomd]

When the "money is no object" idea came down from the Samuelis I expected a pursuit of younger, fresher talent (e.g., Robertson, Marner), not a 35-year-old Kreider. I don't hate that a large swath of our vert leaders are former teammates with established chemistry, but I'd really like to see Verbeek take a bigger swing at evolving players who've proven they can score goals in the NHL. Kreider seems like a Band-Aid to me.

Checks date...June 11th.

 

[Rooch]

Checks date...June 11th.

Did I suggest somewhere that the offseason is over? Go watch cartoons.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

I don't think PV is done. I still think he's swinging at Marner

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

I don't think PV is done. I still think he's swinging at Marner

I imagine there’s going to be a lot of changes in Anaheim.

I still think we’ll go grab a RHD that can play top 4 reliable, and another top 6 winger.

I expect 1 of gudas or trouba to be gone at some point (likely gudas).

I think 1 of strome or zegras will be shipped out, I also think Gibson will be moved too.

Idk if we will go marner route, I imagine a trade will make more sense.

 

[All Mighty]

The whole “why are we helping the Rangers” narrative needs to be retired. That’s the perspective to have when you are a neutral fan looking at a trade, but the only thing that Ducks’ fans should care about is if this makes the Ducks better. I totally get that Kreider *should* have neutral or negative value, but the fact of the matter is that if we didn’t make this deal, someone else would have (same with the Trouba deal). *Should* we have had to pay less? Maybe. But *could* we have paid less? Most likely not. You either pay minimal assets to get the player or you don’t get him at all.

I think it’s a more worthwhile discussion to talk about if Kreider actually does make the team better. I think he does, assuming he is mostly healthy, but those injuries do concern me. I also have to imagine that this isn’t Verbeek’s biggest move this offseason.