Confirmed Trade: [NYR/ANA] Chris Kreider and 2025 4th for Carey Terrance and 2025 3rd

[Zirakzigil]

Was there any reports of the pieces involved? Dont want to have to read through pages of this thread

 

[Fatass]

Was there any reports of the pieces involved? Dont want to have to read through pages of this thread

Kreider for a recent second round prospect and an actual second round pick.

 

[tomd]

Kreider for a recent second round prospect and an actual second round pick.

The expected return as currently identified is Casey Terrance and a 4th.

 

[Fatass]

The expected return as currently identified is Casey Terrance and a 4th.

So pretty much for nothing so long as the Ducks swallow all the contract?

 

[tomd]

So pretty much for nothing so long as the Ducks swallow all the contract?

yes

 

[Jared Grayden]

Anaheim can afford it and his cap hit is more than his actual salary which their ownership probably appreciates. So I understand it being a low risk option for ANA.
I do love hearing the narratives about how a scene change might work for Kreider and all the excuses for him being bad this season. Goodrow and Trouba didn't improve after changing scenery. Maybe Kreider can be less disastrous than his last season with good health, but he's at the age where decline is often one way.

 

[Fatass]

Anaheim can afford it and his cap hit is more than his actual salary which their ownership probably appreciates. So I understand it being a low risk option for ANA.
I do love hearing the narratives about how a scene change might work for Kreider and all the excuses for him being bad this season. Goodrow and Trouba didn't improve after changing scenery. Maybe Kreider can be less disastrous than his last season with good health, but he's at the age where decline is often one way.

Are the Ducks what the Panthers used to be; a really super location (weather related) to retire and some players take advantage of that? IMO Krieder says yes.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Are the Ducks what the Panthers used to be; a really super location (weather related) to retire and some players take advantage of that? IMO Krieder says yes.

Nice place to retire if you can afford it. Comes without the alligators and florida man incidents.

 

[StreetHawk]

Are the Ducks what the Panthers used to be; a really super location (weather related) to retire and some players take advantage of that? IMO Krieder says yes.

I wouldn't say that. Trouba, situation got bad and Ana deal took his cap charge.

Ducks did well, standings wise, getting to 80 points. Most free agents or trade bait would look more favorably at them now vs this time last year when they had 59 points for 3rd worst.

Remember in the mid 201X's the California teams were the destination places to be. LA with their 2 cups, Ana with 2 final 4's in 15 and 17, and SJ with a Cup finals in 2016. For just Vancouver, we had Bieksa, Kesler, Hansen all waive trade protection to go there.

Ducks are not at that place now, but much better than they have been the past 6 seasons being in the bottom of the standings.

 

[MMC]

 

[joestevens29]

Seems like option 1 for Kreider is go to ana and get settled in before the season starts

Or option 2 end up on waivers at some point and have less time to settle in

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Anaheim better not promise any sort of extension to get Kreider to waive. Verbeek has been spending to much money on guys with alot of miles on them. We should be making the Rangers give us assets to take their bad contracts

 

[Mrfenn92]

Anaheim better not promise any sort of extension to get Kreider to waive. Verbeek has been spending to much money on guys with alot of miles on them. We should be making the Rangers give us assets to take their bad contracts

Can’t do an extension

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Can’t do an extension

On paper I'm more worried about a handshake agreement

 

[Mrfenn92]

On paper I'm more worried about a handshake agreement

Don’t think it’s anything like that at all

 

[pld459666]

Worst 50 goal scorer in history. Please don't help the rangers by taking him.

Sorry, but that moniker belongs to Cheechoo

 

[Oddbob]

Yeah, not sure why ANA would pay to take Kreider when the Rangers are one of the fewer teams that actually need to move salary out even with the cap higher.

 

[AirGut]

Yeah, not sure why ANA would pay to take Kreider when the Rangers are one of the fewer teams that actually need to move salary out even with the cap higher.

because believe it or not GM's like to build rapport with one another.

 

[The don godfather]

Rags are gonna be a dumpster fire team next year with now losing kreider. Do they still have their first round pick next year?

 

[Zirakzigil]

Rags are gonna be a dumpster fire team next year with now losing kreider. Do they still have their first round pick next year?

Nah. They are going to blow their cap space on Bennett/Ehlers.

 

[The don godfather]

Nah. They are going to blow their cap space on Bennett/Ehlers.

Doubt bennett leaves cats .

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Rags are gonna be a dumpster fire team next year with now losing kreider. Do they still have their first round pick next year?

They have to decide in the next two weeks whether they're giving Pittsburgh the 12th overall pick this year or 2026 NYR 1st Round Pick. Could go either way. They traded a conditional 1st rounder (condition = 2025 or 2026) to Vancouver for JT Miller, and then Vancouver flipped it to Pittsburgh for Marcus Pettersson.

 

[The don godfather]

They have to decide in the next two weeks whether they're giving Pittsburgh the 12th overall pick this year or 2026 NYR 1st Round Pick. Could go either way. They traded a conditional 1st rounder (condition = 2025 or 2026) to Vancouver for JT Miller, and then Vancouver flipped it to Pittsburgh for Marcus Pettersson.

Is next year unprotected? If it is they playing with flre. Kreider helps for the now. If they retooling they have no pick and if its unprotected lookout city.

 

[NYRnine94]

Not a huge Kreider fan like some NYR fans but obviously know his game well.

Last year is a tough one to judge. I doubt he bounces all the way back to the prior 2-3 year form, but I doubt he’s as bad as last year either. He’s an experienced vet who will have a role on a young team. Even in an awful aeason he can pot 20+, I bet he hits 30-35 next year. He’s a fair penalty killer, a good PP net front player, can still skate very well even if he is no longer elite like he once was. 6.5 isn’t a massive cap hit and the term is not a problem. It’s probably a win for Anaheim. NYR are clearly desperate to shake things up, and probably should be. This is probably bad asset management from NY though. He probably has better value at the TDL. Clearly Drury wants him gone.

Can't risk Kreider getting hurt and then you can't move him at all at the deadline.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Is next year unprotected? If it is they playing with flre. Kreider helps for the now. If they retooling they have no pick and if its unprotected lookout city.

I'm 99% sure it's unprotected. In theory, it could be the 1st overall McKenna pick. So you would THINK they'll choose to give up 12th overall...