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Confirmed Trade: [NYR/ANA] Chris Kreider and 2025 4th for Carey Terrance and 2025 3rd

I guess I can see it, if it were the Wings I would want them to retain half. But Ducks don't really need that.

I wouldn't be paying any good assets for him if I were the Ducks tho.
 
If Krieder is healthy he'll put up decent numbers. There's some talent to play with on the Ducks. I don't think 25-30 goals is out of reach.
I'd imagine he'd probably work better with Carlsson and Gauthier than Killorn. Or at least hope. If not, I can see him on a line with Zegras if he's not traded.
 
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I'd imagine he'd probably work better with Carlsson and Gauthier than Killorn. Or at least hope. If not, I can see him on a line with Zegras if he's not traded.
Unlikely Zegras is coming along unless the hold up is Drury trying to get Zibanejad to go to ANA along with his buddy. UNLIKELY in my book
 
Is Verbeek like a Ranger sleeper agent? Is he there just to bail NYR out of their cap problems?
Any GM's focus is their own club. In his view, Trouba and now Kreider are a benefit to the Ducks. May not agree with that assessment, but that appears to be his stance.

We are also getting out of the flat cap so more clubs are open to doing business in taking someone who is not worth their contract, but not a detriment where they can't absorb the cap charge. Also, he's paid $1.5 mill less than his annually AAV.
 
Any GM's focus is their own club. In his view, Trouba and now Kreider are a benefit to the Ducks. May not agree with that assessment, but that appears to be his stance.

We are also getting out of the flat cap so more clubs are open to doing business in taking someone who is not worth their contract, but not a detriment where they can't absorb the cap charge. Also, he's paid $1.5 mill less than his annually AAV.
the comment was more of a joke than anything my guy
 
Strome and Trouba to Kreider the second he lands:

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It's not like he was a really great player before though either as he has had 2 very good years then 3 meh ones in the last 5 out out 6 before last season.

Scoring a lot of goals doesn't change that and that he is also 34.


If he really had the value people are saying then the NYR would be keeping him right?

Drury is rightfully treating him as a cap dump.
Welcome to the NHL where goals don't matter.
 
Welcome to the NHL where goals don't matter.
Everything matters some people tend to focus too much on goals.

That being said i wonder how this all shakes out for the ducks and if they are really going to go here again and let the NYR bend them over when the trade went down.

San Jose their GM took Wallman and made much out like 1000% better than the Ducks have with the NYR and everyone could see it way in advance, its not just some luck thing.
 
Everything matters some people tend to focus too much on goals.

That being said i wonder how this all shakes out for the ducks and if they are really going to go here again and let the NYR bend them over when the trade went down.

San Jose their GM took Wallman and made much out like 1000% better than the Ducks have with the NYR and everyone could see it way in advance, its not just some luck thing.
San Jose was in a waiting period. They don't have to accept a deal that is meh, or viewed as overpaid players. Ducks are trying to change the team culture and being bottom feeders by adding actual NHL players, regardless if they're view as overpaid. If Ducks are comfortable with the deal and don't feel bent over because it's not actually hurting them, then it really doesn't matter. Obviously ducks would love to hear a GM say "Take this player and we'll attach a 1st", but they can't wait around banking on that.
 
Everything matters some people tend to focus too much on goals.

That being said i wonder how this all shakes out for the ducks and if they are really going to go here again and let the NYR bend them over when the trade went down.

San Jose their GM took Wallman and made much out like 1000% better than the Ducks have with the NYR and everyone could see it way in advance, its not just some luck thing.
Bend them over lol. You have absolutely no clue. It’s two years at 6.5. If anyone said Kreider would be traded for this package last off season it would’ve been an absolute steal and that was with 3 years left. He has one injury season where he still managed 22 goals has 2 years left at not that big a cap hit and now it’s bending them over. Where is the middle ground? You are delusional.
 
Everything matters some people tend to focus too much on goals.

That being said i wonder how this all shakes out for the ducks and if they are really going to go here again and let the NYR bend them over when the trade went down.

San Jose their GM took Wallman and made much out like 1000% better than the Ducks have with the NYR and everyone could see it way in advance, its not just some luck thing.
bend them over?

the ducks need to reach the cap floor. they'd be giving up a prospect who isn't anything special and a 4th round pick in exchange for one of the best net front presences in the league who could very well return to form if healthy

now if the ducks were giving up a prospect like zellwegger, then this would be a different story
 
Bend them over lol. You have absolutely no clue. It’s two years at 6.5. If anyone said Kreider would be traded for this package last off season it would’ve been an absolute steal and that was with 3 years left. He has one injury season where he still managed 22 goals has 2 years left at not that big a cap hit and now it’s bending them over. Where is the middle ground? You are delusional.
$5 mill per in real cash as well. If you aren't going to hit the ceiling, the team is likely to look at that more.

Out of the flat cap, so more teams have some cap room. So, can't expect to get paid to take on a player like you did in 2022/2023. Also, going to have to adjust to the new cap numbers. Last year Hanifin/Hronek signed for like $7.25 mill per/. Chrychrun signed for $9 mill earlier this year.
 
Bend them over lol. You have absolutely no clue. It’s two years at 6.5. If anyone said Kreider would be traded for this package last off season it would’ve been an absolute steal and that was with 3 years left. He has one injury season where he still managed 22 goals has 2 years left at not that big a cap hit and now it’s bending them over. Where is the middle ground? You are delusional.

I’m not trying to take a side

But to me

If the trade deadline has passed but July 1st has not

Any deal that involves cap going out without cap coming back in

Should have a significant cost. It’s a dump. Occurring at a time of year that cap space / depth chart holes have specific value.

Maybe this trade appears one sided, but I’d suggest one party will be paying for the ability to shed cap 30 days from July 1. That should be baked into the deal and a notable chunk of the total value.
 
Bend them over lol. You have absolutely no clue. It’s two years at 6.5. If anyone said Kreider would be traded for this package last off season it would’ve been an absolute steal and that was with 3 years left. He has one injury season where he still managed 22 goals has 2 years left at not that big a cap hit and now it’s bending them over. Where is the middle ground? You are delusional.
the people on this board think that anyone who isn’t like McDavid or Barkov is overpaid trash. There’s no such thing as quality middle 6 players here. Either they’re elite or they’re useless trash
 

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