Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[Vitto79]

I'm not seeing the same player that most of you apparently are.

he does seem his age. Just not mature

just take a 2nd and ideally a bottom 6 role player if they can get that

 

[Gardner McKay]

Yeah I get that Laf is our 1st overall and we all wanna love him, but please. If you think Kravtsov has played dramatically worse than Lafreniere, you aren't watching. Kravtsov has played very well in the minutes he's gotten for us, on both sides of the puck. Let me put it this way - if these two players were drafted in the other's draft position, Lafreniere would be the one in the AHL.

He's milking the 1OA status for everything it's worth. The dude can't finish a 50 second shift without getting to the bench looking like he's gonna keel over and die. I'm by no means saying Kravtsov is a far and away better player than Laf, but they are WAY closer than what you're making it out to be

What, pray tell, was I then doing during all these games?

 

[NYRFAN218]

If the offer we get for Kravtsov is essentially the 60th overall pick, I'd rather just hold onto him and let him sit there in suspension purgatory. I have no interest in helping him out for basically no return when he refuses to report to Hartford.

 

[will1066]

Will, you’re forever home on this board Bud

Thank you, sir!

 

[egelband]

I know Rangers fans aren't happy about this development, but honestly a lot are jumping to conclusions. Nobody knows the real back story to any of this. It could simply be a numbers game, Kravstov feels he has the talent to play, but is being blocked from playing top 6 due to the Rangers having a bunch of top 6 forwards. He's not a third line player, this could end up being beneficial for all party's involved, if the Rangers end up getting someone of value in return

I do agree that this could work out ok. A trade demand in a vacuum could lower the players value/return. But also it gets more teams to consider a deal and possibly create something of a bidding war. It may work out ok for everyone.

 

[Tob]

We went high character low skill in 2017 and figured we need to go high skill low character in 2018 to make up for it. In Gorton's defense, he got 3 out of those 4 assessments correct.

 

[smoneil]

Brooks's piece doesn't even make sense. He wrote that, in the exit interview last season, the team spoke to Kravtsov about improving the way he trains in the off-season. Kravtsov hears this and, per Brooks, assumed he was going to be traded?? No, dumbass, they want you to improve your training. Is this kid a bit goofy or something?

Also, all these leaks (Krav's teammates thinking he's a lazy floater, the bad exit interview, etc), which are almost certainly coming from the team, makes this situation plain as day. They are torching this kid on his way out the door. Seems like a poor decision to me. Even if all of these things coming out are accurate, get the best trade return that you can and put a neutral spin on it (the whole "player wanted a fresh start, and we obliged him" routine). Torching him now hurts the potential trade return, and I can imagine that more than a few players are watching all this and wondering whether they want to play for a team that will air all the dirty laundry to try and make themselves look better in the media.

 

[Thirty One]

Is this kid a bit goofy or something?

Hmmm. I'm leaning towards yes.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

When you see players who aren’t playing well stay in the big leagues yet you get sent down despite playing very well, how can you not feel insulted? I’m amazed how many are totally blaming Krav here. The organization has handled this abysmally. It’s clear he never had a future with us, so wtf were they doing the last 6 months? He can absolutely play in the top 6 in several NHL teams, so I can’t fault him for pushing for a trade. I can fault him for not actually going to Hartford. He can do both, demand a trade but play for Hartford, and I’m sure a trade could be worked out over the next few weeks. I really can’t blame him for feeling insulted and I’m surprised so few are sympathizing with him. He unquestionably has top line talent. He’s quite a bit more talented than Lias. It’s a damn shame it’s come to this.

 

[NYR94]

Some pretty bad trade proposals in the Kravtsov thread on the trade rumors board. He who shall not be named chimed in with another winner.

 

[JohnC]

Yeah I get that Laf is our 1st overall and we all wanna love him, but please. If you think Kravtsov has played dramatically worse than Lafreniere, you aren't watching. Kravtsov has played very well in the minutes he's gotten for us, on both sides of the puck. Let me put it this way - if these two players were drafted in the other's draft position, Lafreniere would be the one in the AHL.

He's milking the 1OA status for everything it's worth. The dude can't finish a 50 second shift without getting to the bench looking like he's gonna keel over and die. I'm by no means saying Kravtsov is a far and away better player than Laf, but they are WAY closer than what you're making it out to be.

Either way you slice it, we're going to lose a talented forward for pennies on the dollar here. Due to complete and total organizational mismanagement of draft picks and prospects. Not because Kravtsov couldn't "make the team" over Dryden Hunt and Libor Hajek. Drury tried to be slick and send a waiver exempt player down so that he could try and get a 6th round pick for Hajek. Our rookie GM played a stupid game and won a very stupid prize

I don’t have much commentary for this post as I think it’s dumb.

I’ll stop rolling my eyes when Kravstov’s career highlights are more than just 5-hole shootout goals in Russia and a preseason slap shot.

Have a pleasant evening.

 

[Thirty One]

Some pretty bad trade proposals in the Kravtsov thread on the trade rumors board. He who shall not be named chimed in with another winner.

There's been enough bad ones here to whet my appetite, thank you.

 

[HFBS]

I know! F! I'm so mad. I won't even be able to perform with my wife later.

Too many jokes to know where to start.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Wahlstrom got yo-yo'd in & out of the Isles lineup last year and shockingly he didnt take his ball and go home. What a concept.

Kravtsov was always the odd man out man out once they won multiple lotteries to draft wingers and signed Kreider, this latest outburst just expedites the process.

That’s because he knew Lou would send his goons after him and break his knees. Nobody’s afraid of Drury , Little League World Series ring notwithstanding

 

[smoneil]

If the offer we get for Kravtsov is essentially the 60th overall pick, I'd rather just hold onto him and let him sit there in suspension purgatory. I have no interest in helping him out for basically no return when he refuses to report to Hartford.

Hard disagree, especially with how deep the 2022 draft is supposed to be. The more picks we have in the first two rounds, the more we can use one on a "swing for the fences" kind of upside kid. Lias was 20. Kravtsov is 21. Drury is 45 years old and has no excuse for letting his emotions get in the way of making the best decision for the team.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I don’t have much commentary for this post as I think it’s dumb.

I’ll stop rolling my eyes when Kravstov’s career highlights are more than just 5-hole shootout goals in Russia and a preseason slap shot.

Have a pleasant evening.

How many KHL games have you watched? What an absolutely ridiculous take.

 

[CasusBelli]

Was having breakfast with a senior guy from Goldman the other day. He was telling me that, when he joined in 1980-something, his boss was a Jewish kid who worked as a bouncer while double-majoring at Harvard; his other colleagues were feisty and didn’t complain when they had to put in the hours and pay their dues. It’s part of the process. You learn. It makes you tough. Now everyone thinks they’re entitled to huge paydays just because they have diplomas from target schools. Clearly that entitled attitude has creeped well beyond Wall Street.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Not that I'm surprised, but sad to see so many people call him "low character." Why should an NHL level player play in the AHL, for an obscene amount of less money because the team can't fit him on their roster.

Would you take a demotion from your job for like 10 or 20% of the pay you make currently, or would you look for another place to work.

The Rangers f***ed up here. And it's becoming a pattern.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Was having breakfast with a senior guy from Goldman the other day. He was telling me that, when he joined in 1980-something, his boss was a Jewish kid who worked as a bouncer while double-majoring at Harvard; his other colleagues were feisty and didn’t complain when they had to put in the hours and pay their dues. It’s part of the process. You learn. It makes you tough. Now everyone thinks they’re entitled to huge paydays just because they have diplomas from target schools. Clearly that entitled attitude has creeped well beyond Wall Street.

Yea. Because everything being done at the big banks in the 80's was how it should be done. Give me a break.

 

[Jauffre]

I will not sleep until sir @avgard hockeyprofessor tells us what he thinks.

 

[mas0764]

I’ve been harping on this for awhile, and I only half believe it, but the Rangers continue to be unlucky even when they get lucky. The way these last several drafts fell, and the way they were phased with respect to each other AND other roster decisions, could not have been worse from an “optimization” perspective.

2017. Let’s get this kickstarted. Let’s start with a can’t miss, but boring, center in Lias Andersson and then take a swing with our 2nd 1st in Chytil (I’ll take it).

2018. The organization is lacking high end talent after the fire sale. Let’s take the clearly highest upside, most talented player in Kravtsov. In any other year, Farabee just screams Rangers pick.

2019. Kakko. Looking very promising still, but Zegras was the pick had we not won the lottery and there is still a really good chance that Trevor is the more dynamic player.

2020. Critical decision on Kreider. Prospect cupboard seems pretty well stocked. Looking like some decent center prospects will be available where we pick. Let’s key in on Lundell and bite the bullet on resigning a team leader with a unicorn skillset. Win the Laf lottery, immediately regret resigning a winger, find ourselves hopelessly barren with respect to center prospect depth.

This team cannot catch a break, even when they catch insane breaks. It’s maddening.

The team has no one to blame but itself for the bind it’s idiotic Kreider decision put them in.

 

[CasusBelli]

Yea. Because everything being done at the big banks in the 80's was how it should be done. Give me a break.

You’re missing the point, Prince.

 

[McRanger92]

You know the Rangers have f***ed up when even ultimate hard ass Rick Carpinello thinks they played this situation wrong

Carp hasn’t said a positive word about the team since JD & Gorts paid the iron price to be fair

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

I don’t have much commentary for this post as I think it’s dumb.

I’ll stop rolling my eyes when Kravstov’s career highlights are more than just 5-hole shootout goals in Russia and a preseason slap shot.

Have a pleasant evening.

Ah yes. Lafreniere's extensive 12 goal highlight reel is far superior. The one that went off his ass that was going in anyway was truly special, one I'll never forget.

But hey, at least we'll soon have another 2nd round pick to draft more wingers with!

Btw, you've spelled Kravtsov's last name wrong incorrectly in each reply you've sent. Kind of hard to value your opinion about a player when you can't even spell their last name correctly. Have a pleasant evening.

 

[Circus86]

I'll repeat something from a friend who works for another organization. Right, wrong or otherwise, here was his response:

"Part of the challenge for the Rangers with some of these higher European picks has been that they took guys who didn't need to make it to the NHL to be okay. Lias is the son of an NHLer who has lived a comfortable life and could continue to live a comfortable life even if he told the Rangers to go jump in a lake. Kravtsov comes from an affluent family and has never faced the prospect of failure resulting in having to go work in a factory somewhere."

One more thing we can blame Gorton for. He drafted these guys. Add that to the list of mistakes including McDonagh trade fiasko, ADA, Trouba contract etc. Gorton really f***ed this rebuilt up. If it wasn't for the lotteries we won and Panarin + Fox wanting to play for us we would be a bottom team.