Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[egelband]

The agent better have some good leads because he just took on responsibility for this kid’s whole career with this stunt.

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[ohbaby]

I think all those guys were competing for different spots than Kravtsov. Those are 4th liners and the spare forward. You think after all we've heard that Kravtsov would have been happy to "make the team" on the 4th line or be a spare forward? Not to mention that Gallant and management have been clear they want that 4th line to be a crash and bang physical in your face line.

Kravtsov's competition ended up being Blais and Blais won the spot

Not according to Gallant's presser. He said flatly they outplayed Kravy for a spot. And we all know Blais is a crash and bang guy. Led the team in hits this preseason. He is not Kravy's competition.

 

[Quinnisinoverhishead]

Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results. How in the world, did management not learn there lessons from Tony D? Waited till the last straw, once it broke, he became untradeable and we got nothing for him. 8 months later and we are in the exact same spot. These guys are incompetent.
Gordie Clark, Glen Sather, Chris Drury, James Dolan...
We need new ownership and new management. Drury hurt us as a player and now he's doing it as a GM. Go back to Buffalo!

 

[kovazub94]

The moment we traded Buch for Blais' VK lost that battle. Blais' spot was never in question. The team identified Blais as what they wanted before the Buch trade and had him pegged for line 3. HF had other ideas but Drury had plans. The 4th line wasn't the place for VK either. So really it was Kravtsov versus Gathier for 13th forward/being used to give players a rest or covering for an injury. VK doesn't fit that role + Gathier outplayed him, hence why he was sent down. That's a way more realistic discussion than Kravtsov vs. Blais which was a landslide loss for VK months ago.

Then Kravtsov should've been moved without letting the situation escalate where it got. Add exit interview conducted by Drury and VK's firing his agent in the offseason (not difficult to put the pieces on what that was all about) and the finger is pointed straight at the front office.

 

[JohnC]

Sounds like my HFNYR career

We can’t all be board standouts like @Thirty One

 

[Jim Halinski]

We'll see what happens here.
No energy to his game , move on
I didn't wanna bring this up but the cat's out of the bag now: I couldn't be less excited about what I've seen so far from him.

He's just there.

 

[gravey9]

I don't know who said it first, but yeah, giving VK a pass the last time around was also a mistake in judgment on my part. I thought the org was having some serious issues and gave VK a pass after the Lias sitch. And maybe the org has some serious issues. But geez. The kid can't handle a demotion. Lame.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't VK run into issues with one of the Traktor coaches 2 seasons back that also impacted his development?

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Hold on to your seats when you see whatever the return is. I am personally guaranteeing massive disappointment.

 

[Levitate]

Not according to Gallant's presser. He said flatly they outplayed Kravy for a spot. And we all know Blais is a crash and bang guy. Led the team in hits this preseason. He is not Kravy's competition.

then why is Blais the guy on the third line where Kravtsov was and Hunt is the 4th line and Gauthier the 13th F

 

[Edge]

Not according to Gallant's presser. He said flatly they outplayed Kravy for a spot. And we all know Blais is a crash and bang guy. Led the team in hits this preseason. He is not Kravy's competition.

Part of the challenge right now is that we have a scenario where they don't want to put Kreider on the third line (to the point of experimenting with him on the right side), they have a bunch of guys who are in that maybe third line category already in Blais, Goodrow, Gauthier, Barron, and even Chytil until a spot frees up.

At some point, if that's the approach, you just run out of viable options to play Kravtsov.

Other factors aside, this wouldn't have been my approach anyway. But that's a whole other conversation.

 

[egelband]

I wonder if his agent going around the league and hearing ‘eh, we’ll give you a third but can’t guarantee he makes the roster’ humbles these guys a bit.
Maybe I’m misreading the situation (again) but does anyone think there’s going to be a whirlwind bidding war for VK?

 

[I Eat Crow]

Hold on to your seats when you see whatever the return is. I am personally guaranteeing massive disappointment.

There may be interest, yes, but what's being offered? A 2nd and a bag of pucks most likely.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Unimpressive in Russia (IMO), unimpressive in Hartford, unimpressive everywhere.

i thought he was playing well.

Really is nauseating reading all this bs hype coming from out East (Europe and Russia) about these kids “playing with men”. How mediocre are these league?

 

[haohmaru]

I dunno, based on what I saw in preseason the wing depth chart is probably:

Panarin
Lafreniere
Kakko
Kreider
Goodrow
Blais
Hunt / Gauthier / Kravtsov all close with Hunt and Gauthier a nudge ahead

Who does the Kravster think he should've slotted in front of, exactly? He's top 9 on some teams, possibly top 6 on a few but he's exactly where he's supposed to be with this organization. The AHL.

 

[Ruggs225]

I blame Kreider… asshat had to move to RW​

 

[KevinFinnerty]

We’re going to get a haul for this kid

 

[egelband]

Part of the challenge right now is that we have a scenario where they don't want to put Kreider on the third line (to the point of experimenting with him on the right side), they have a bunch of guys who are in that maybe third line category already in Blais, Goodrow, Gauthier, Barron, and even Chytil until a spot frees up.

At some point, if that's the approach, you just run out of viable options to play Kravtsov.

Other factors aside, this wouldn't have been my approach anyway. But that's a whole other conversation.

Yep. And we can certainly debate Kreider’s best spot in the lineup. But it’s not like the team buried Kravtsov. He had chances and obviously more chances would materialize. The player got injured at a very inopportune time. But everyone was optimistic on his future. This seems extremely impatient and pretty misguided. Unless there’s more going on behind the scenes. On the surface, this seems extremely counterproductive on VK’s part.

 

[NYSPORTS]

the media can go (blank) off.

We read the same cr@p at the trade deadline and regarding trades which never happen at the draft

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results. How in the world, did management not learn there lessons from Tony D? Waited till the last straw, once it broke, he became untradeable and we got nothing for him. 8 months later and we are in the exact same spot. These guys are incompetent.
Gordie Clark, Glen Sather, Chris Drury, James Dolan...
We need new ownership and new management. Drury hurt us as a player and now he's doing it as a GM. Go back to Buffalo!

May I suggest a new user name?

 

[patnyrnyg]

He signed a contract, he owes his employers (the club) the terms of that contract as well as following NHLPA rules. If he was worried about the pay disparity or lack of a guarantee, he should have stayed where he was. You are correct, in a right to work environment one can leave at will (respecting valid NDAs and compete clauses). These are 2 different employment models.

And, if he feels he is being mistreated, he can withhold services. They can in-turn withhold his pay. So long as he understands that consequence. Right now, his agent is free to seek a trade. Hartford's season starts friday. They have 3 days to find something.

 

[Edge]

Yep. And we can certainly debate Kreider’s best spot in the lineup. But it’s not like the team buried Kravtsov. He had chances and obviously more chances would materialize. The player got injured at a very inopportune time. But everyone was optimistic on his future. This seems extremely impatient and pretty misguided. Unless there’s more going on behind the scenes. On the surface, this seems extremely counterproductive on VK’s part.

Frankly, I don't think either side did themselves any favors.

 

[Peltz]

This kid would have been called up immediately if any rangers winger in the top 9 got injured and he pulls this bullshit?

Are you kidding me?

 

[ohbaby]

then why is Blais the guy on the third line where Kravtsov was and Hunt is the 4th line and Gauthier the 13th F

With Kravy out, others move up. And the lineup for the Caps and most likely the Stars (they're a heavy team also),... is not what we will see in the weeks ahead. They are going top heavy for those two games,... while keeping their options open for those who can't clear waivers,.. hoping to make some late breaking deal.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

This kid would have been called up immediately if any rangers winger in the top 9 got injured and he pulls this bullshit?

Are you kidding me?

yeah it’s not a good look for him. You want to weed these type of people out.

though if he ends up blossoming somewhere else it’s going to make keeping Kreider look even worse than it already does.