Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[Fitzy]

This is the same Christopher Drury that many other teams were lusting after and hoping he'd take their GM job and Rangers' FO had to fend them off with a broomstick.

Yeah, I mean we can admit that he's made some mistakes while also agreeing that he's a bright young talented mind that may very well grow into the position.

It does sound like he has a little bit of an ego, though, which could do with some whittling.

 

[Harbour Dog]

To the best of my memory, 'Drury was a lazy Ranger' isn't accurate.

'Drury was an overpaid Ranger', sure.

'Drury was a shitty Ranger', okay.

'Drury traded my favourite player and now I'm throwing my pacifier on the floor and crying about it', I see.

But 'lazy' is not how I remember him at all. He still tried hard, he just wasn't as good as his contract.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

To the best of my memory, 'Drury was a lazy Ranger' isn't accurate.

'Drury was an overpaid Ranger', sure.

'Drury was a shitty Ranger', okay.

'Drury traded my favourite player and now I'm throwing my pacifier on the floor and crying about it', I see.

But 'lazy' is not how I remember him at all. He still tried hard, he just wasn't as good as his contract.

The part that is coming out now is the "Drury is an ego-maniac/asshole of a person". I hadn't heard that from when he was a player. Thinking back to some of the interviews, I can see it. We're also seeing signs of it from multiple sources and things that are going on. I hope its not true, and I hope he doesn't have that rep with other GM's in the league, that's not good for the org.

 

[duhmetreE]

I dont care if Drury is an asshole. Just dont suck at your job and be an asshole.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I dont care if Drury is an asshole. Just dont suck at your job and be an asshole.

Personal opinion but my opinion is that ego will hamper anyones ability to reach their full potential at anything.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

The part that is coming out now is the "Drury is an ego-maniac/asshole of a person". I hadn't heard that from when he was a player. Thinking back to some of the interviews, I can see it. We're also seeing signs of it from multiple sources and things that are going on. I hope its not true, and I hope he doesn't have that rep with other GM's in the league, that's not good for the org.

I won't lie, I can't shake "I can see what Dolan likes in this guy" from rattling around in my brain.

 

[duhmetreE]

Personal opinion but my opinion is that ego will hamper anyones ability to reach their full potential at anything.

Is that a slight to Kravtsov? or Drury?

Drury is an asshole. Kravtsov has the ego. Thinking you're good enough to not work as hard or sacrifice, that's an ego. Being blunt, mean or crude is not an ego.

 

[NYR Viper]

The part that is coming out now is the "Drury is an ego-maniac/asshole of a person". I hadn't heard that from when he was a player. Thinking back to some of the interviews, I can see it. We're also seeing signs of it from multiple sources and things that are going on. I hope its not true, and I hope he doesn't have that rep with other GM's in the league, that's not good for the org.

Some of these 'stories' don't paint the whole picture. We are seeing things through the eyes of one person.

For example, let's use the practice in Toronto as an example. What if the team was dogging it through practice and Kravtsov was noticeably just going through the motions knowing he wasn't going to play. Often times a coach will single out a player to motivate both him and their teammates to get their butt's in gear.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I won't lie, I can't shake "I can see what Dolan likes in this guy" from rattling around in my brain.

He's quickly becoming NYR's Isaiah Thomas.

 

[NYR Viper]

Personal opinion but my opinion is that ego will hamper anyones ability to reach their full potential at anything.

Steve Yzerman is a complete douche and yet people consider him to be able to walk on water.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Is that a slight to Kravtsov?

Directed at Drury, but perhaps we could also say that for Krav as well.

 

[will1066]

LOL at GG reaching out, and at AGM Drury dressing down Krav. GMs coaching. Coaches GMing. Our 'BUILD' is dead in the water with this clown in charge. He was a lazy hump as a NYR.



In a league where Benning and Ruff and Jack Johnson and Seth Jones stay employed. What's your point?

Jack Johnson and Artemi Panarin have the same number of goals. What's *your* point?

 

[fm]

Jack Johnson and Artemi Panarin have the same number of goals. What's *your* point?

NHL front offices have a self-destructive tendency to recycle the same incompetents over and over and over again. Artemi Panarin's goal total @ game 4/82? What's ~*your*~ point?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Jack Johnson and Artemi Panarin have the same number of goals. What's *your* point?

Wish we had a FO with the guts to take a flier on a talent like that...

 

[WojtekWolski86]

Some of these 'stories' don't paint the whole picture. We are seeing things through the eyes of one person.

For example, let's use the practice in Toronto as an example. What if the team was dogging it through practice and Kravtsov was noticeably just going through the motions knowing he wasn't going to play. Often times a coach will single out a player to motivate both him and their teammates to get their butt's in gear.

I want to highlight and emphasize this point. Bare with this story...

Working at OTS for a few years. Instructors yell at an individual to correct them so that everyone can hear what they did so they don't repeat the same mistake. From an outside perspective, you may think I'm singling out this individual, but I'm not. Heck, I've even taken this individual out of formation and had them march behind the flight by themselves. From an outside perspective, again, you may think I'm singling out this individual. What you don't see is me telling this Cadet to relax, focus on what the flight is doing and to concentrate on a particular task. Now the flight as a whole isn't turning on this individual and the individual can attempt to correct their behavior.

Months later our Commander tells all the instructors that we should treat cadets like his 15 year old daughter. This is what happens when you make judgements without understanding the entire picture. These aren't 15 year olds, most of them are in their 20s and professionals in there career fields but can't don't know their left from their right foot under pressure.

Off my "its the organizations fault for not treating him differently" soap box.

 

[fm]

Yeah, I mean we can admit that he's made some mistakes while also agreeing that he's a bright young talented mind that may very well grow into the position.

It does sound like he has a little bit of an ego, though, which could do with some whittling.

Are you talking about VK or CD?

 

[KingDeathMetal]

People with the "CHRIS DRURY IS THE PROBLEM!" overreactions, good lord. Did someone refer to him as Isiah Thomas? Like, can we get through the second week of the season without forming solid opinions of our new GM? Thanks.

Kravtsov came into camp out of shape, twice, refused assignment to the AHL after having left the team prior. How is Drury the problem here? Because he was brutally honest, and told Kravtsov that he both quit on his team and was out of shape? Good, that's what a GM SHOULD be saying. These guys are professionals, not HS athletes. If Kravtsov can't act like a professional, and wants to demand a trade instead of working on his craft like everyone else not named Lias Andersson, then trade him and good riddance.

Drury has overseen the development of what, 20 other young players who came through the roster? More? And 2 guys had an issue? One of whom was a complete bust and the other who underperformed post-draft plus had an attitude problem? The problem isn't with Drury. K'Andre, Kakko, Laf, Schneider, Nils, Fox, Lindgren, Barron, none of these dudes had an issue.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

People with the "CHRIS DRURY IS THE PROBLEM!" overreactions, good lord. Did someone refer to him as Isiah Thomas? Like, can we get through the second week of the season without forming solid opinions of our new GM? Thanks.

Kravtsov came into camp out of shape, twice, refused assignment to the AHL after having left the team prior. How is Drury the problem here? Because he was brutally honest, and told Kravtsov that he both quit on his team and was out of shape? Good, that's what a GM SHOULD be saying. These guys are professionals, not HS athletes. If Kravtsov can't act like a professional, and wants to demand a trade instead of working on his craft like everyone else not named Lias Andersson, then trade him and good riddance.

Drury has overseen the development of what, 20 other young players who came through the roster? More? And 2 guys had an issue? One of whom was a complete bust and the other who underperformed post-draft plus had an attitude problem? The problem isn't with Drury. K'Andre, Kakko, Laf, Schneider, Nils, Fox, Lindgren, Barron, none of these dudes had an issue.

The fanbase is becoming a bit toxic, to be honest.

 

[EdJovanovski]

People with the "CHRIS DRURY IS THE PROBLEM!" overreactions, good lord. Did someone refer to him as Isiah Thomas? Like, can we get through the second week of the season without forming solid opinions of our new GM? Thanks.

Kravtsov came into camp out of shape, twice, refused assignment to the AHL after having left the team prior. How is Drury the problem here? Because he was brutally honest, and told Kravtsov that he both quit on his team and was out of shape? Good, that's what a GM SHOULD be saying. These guys are professionals, not HS athletes. If Kravtsov can't act like a professional, and wants to demand a trade instead of working on his craft like everyone else not named Lias Andersson, then trade him and good riddance.

Drury has overseen the development of what, 20 other young players who came through the roster? More? And 2 guys had an issue? One of whom was a complete bust and the other who underperformed post-draft plus had an attitude problem? The problem isn't with Drury. K'Andre, Kakko, Laf, Schneider, Nils, Fox, Lindgren, Barron, none of these dudes had an issue.

I think everyone is taking the conditioning thing out of context, I’m pretty sure they meant to condition his groin returning from injury; not his condition like his fitness. I don’t see how he could be out of shape, he skates much faster than almost anyone on our team, even late in shifts and never comes back to the bench out of breath like Kakko & Laf do. If we really base things off meritocracy and bring in shape then Kakko shouldn’t have even made the NHL his rookie year, he was gassed 5 seconds into every shift. Kravtsov should’ve made that team over him as he had the way better camp too

 

[Tawnos]

I think everyone is taking the conditioning thing out of context, I’m pretty sure they meant to condition his groin returning from injury; not his condition like his fitness. I don’t see how he could be out of shape, he skates much faster than almost anyone on our team, even late in shifts and never comes back to the bench out of breath like Kakko & Laf do. If we really base things off meritocracy and bring in shape then Kakko shouldn’t have even made the NHL his rookie year, he was gassed 5 seconds into every shift. Kravtsov should’ve made that team over him as he had the way better camp too

Nope, according to the reports we have, the questions about his conditioning came up during his exit interviews.

Oh, and by the way, we know from other players that poor conditioning can be the reason a player gets injured in training camp.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Nope, according to the reports we have, the questions about his conditioning came up during his exit interviews.

You must agree though he doesn’t appear out of shape on the ice? Should we put more stock into his results in some fitness tests than how it translates on the ice? Like apparently Kakko is one of the best in fitness tests, but in games his endurance has been his greatest weakness in the NHL. Is this about his heart rate thing lmao I remember everyone making memes about that and how stupid of a critique it was.

 

[New York RKY]

I think everyone is taking the conditioning thing out of context, I’m pretty sure they meant to condition his groin returning from injury; not his condition like his fitness. I don’t see how he could be out of shape, he skates much faster than almost anyone on our team, even late in shifts and never comes back to the bench out of breath like Kakko & Laf do. If we really base things off meritocracy and bring in shape then Kakko shouldn’t have even made the NHL his rookie year, he was gassed 5 seconds into every shift. Kravtsov should’ve made that team over him as he had the way better camp too

I thought that’s what you were for?

 

[Tawnos]

You must agree though he doesn’t appear out of shape on the ice? Should we put more stock into his results in some fitness tests than how it translates on the ice? Like apparently Kakko is one of the best in fitness tests, but in games his endurance has been his greatest weakness in the NHL. Is this about his heart rate thing lmao I remember everyone making memes about that and how stupid of a critique it was.

I don't know... Kessel has never really been in great shape and, until his skating started declining, he was always the best skater on the team because he's a genetic freak. Some teams were willing to tolerate it, to their gain, but a lot of teams wouldn't have traded for him like Pittsburgh did.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I thought that’s what you were for?

LMAO

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You must agree though he doesn’t appear out of shape on the ice? Should we put more stock into his results in some fitness tests than how it translates on the ice? Like apparently Kakko is one of the best in fitness tests, but in games his endurance has been his greatest weakness in the NHL. Is this about his heart rate thing lmao I remember everyone making memes about that and how stupid of a critique it was.

It was 2 years ago. Hasn't been an issue since.

I have no idea how Krav's conditioning is. I don't seem to remember it impacting his play on the ice but its tough for that to be the case when he's played all of 20 games at this level getting like 10-12 minutes of ice time.