Value of: Keller to Ottawa

[Qward]

What would it take for the Ottawa Senators to get Clayton Keller?

Would Arizona eat $2 million in cap/Salary if Ottawa paid a 1st round pick?

Only prospect that is untouchable is Sanderson. Sorry.

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[FinnishCoyote]

Keller is not avaible anymore, he is finally looking like a player he was expected to be (70 point pace in horrific Arizona team)

Also Arizona is not going to retain 2m for the next 6 years

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I’d say Batherson and Keller are equal contracts aside. So what would you you want for a 8mil per year Batherson? Probably more then what you’d give.

 

[ck26]

No. Keller isn't on the block.

 

[Kaibur]

The Coyotes have said they are willing to take on cap or bad contracts for picks to help facilitate trades. Not that they will retain actual cash on long term deals. They only have 1 retention slot left.

If Ottawa (Melnyk) is still trying to rid themselves of Matt Murray's contract, the Coyotes might be able to act as facilitator, because they are actively looking to take on contracts that extend beyond this year to help them get to the capfloor next season. (The Coyotes don't want Murray and won't retain on him, at least not for cheap)

Otherwise, these are non-playoff teams that are not looking to spend a lot of money. Probably not good trade partners.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Keller is one of the most underrated players in the league.

 

[Taytro]

Asking to retain for 6 years of a 23 year olds contract is ridiculous.

 

[TGWL]

With 1 retention spot right now? Can't see them retaining for that long. Don't think 2022 1st is enough to get a deal done here since Arizona has no reason to move on from Keller.

 

[Big Muddy]

I’d say Batherson and Keller are equal contracts aside. So what would you you want for a 8mil per year Batherson? Probably more then what you’d give.

No. Keller isn't on the block.

That's OK. I'd doubt that Eugene Melnyk would pony up the money for the contract anyways.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

Keller is one of the most underrated players in the league.

Perhaps if he can sustain this level and doesn't get recognition.

Last 3 seasons he was bad and looked disinterested, the criticism was justified. This season he has been completely different player and it shows, with better coach he is looking better than he has ever been and is actually fun player to watch

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Perhaps if he can sustain this level and doesn't get recognition.

Last 3 seasons he was bad and looked disinterested, the criticism was justified. This season he has been completely different player and it shows, with better coach he is looking better than he has ever been and is actually fun player to watch

I totally agree that he's been poor, but he's still so obviously talented.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

What would it take for the Ottawa Senators to get Clayton Keller?

Would Arizona eat $2 million in cap/Salary if Ottawa paid a 1st round pick?

Only prospect that is untouchable is Sanderson. Sorry.

Paid a 1sr round pick to get him or paid a 1st just for the retention? Either way there is no chance Arizona is putting themselves down to 1 retention slot for 6 years.

Keller will cost you a fortune like Sanderson or this years 1st is a must include

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I would give up our 1st for Keller regardless of retention (probably with top 5 protection) but I think there are better, more realistic targets for us out there.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Would think a Schmaltz for White deal made more sense? Ottawa gets the better player but takes on an extra year and higher cap. Also 14M in actual cash which may be an issue. Arizona sheds a year and over 1M off the cap and 14M in cash which seems to be a bigger plus for them. Both players get a kinda needed change of scenery even though Schmaltz is playing a bit better this season.

 

[banks]

Would think a Schmaltz for White deal made more sense? Ottawa gets the better player but takes on an extra year and higher cap. Also 14M in actual cash which may be an issue. Arizona sheds a year and over 1M off the cap and 14M in cash which seems to be a bigger plus for them. Both players get a kinda needed change of scenery even though Schmaltz is playing a bit better this season.

I think White to Arizona makes a ton of sense, even if Schmaltz isn't going the other way. I've said that in a number of threads. Arizona can give him playing time that Ottawa just can't.

 

[Qward]

Paid a 1sr round pick to get him or paid a 1st just for the retention? Either way there is no chance Arizona is putting themselves down to 1 retention slot for 6 years.

Keller will cost you a fortune like Sanderson or this years 1st is a must include

I was thinking more along the lines of

Greig, Brannstrom, White(for cap reasons) and a pick,

The pick would be upgraded to a 1st, top 1 protected) if there was retention.

If hes not available okay. If Arizona wouldnt retain, okay.

Just wanted to know if it was feasible?

 

[BKarchitect]

I was thinking more along the lines of

Greig, Brannstrom, White(for cap reasons) and a pick,

The pick would be upgraded to a 1st, top 1 protected) if there was retention.

If hes not available okay. If Arizona wouldnt retain, okay.

Just wanted to know if it was feasible?

Nice package but the time to buy low on Keller was last year. I think, fundamentally, this idea is flawed from the simple standpoint that Keller is not realistically being looked to move. We know everybody in AZ has a price but unless you knock their socks off, there’s little incentive for the Coyotes to consider something like this. He’s been over a PPG the past two months, he’s still really young and although he’s pricey it’s not like that is a concern for a team that has admitted it will take on salary headaches (for assets) at the deadline.

 

[Hogan20]

Keller's development was stunted with Tocchet behind the helm as he wanted to play more defensively. Tourigny has them playing more of a open style and Keller is showing his talents every night. I doubt he's available for anything short of a blue-chip 1C +

 

[YP44]

I was thinking more along the lines of

Greig, Brannstrom, White(for cap reasons) and a pick,

The pick would be upgraded to a 1st, top 1 protected) if there was retention.

If hes not available okay. If Arizona wouldnt retain, okay.

Just wanted to know if it was feasible?

I would think that pick would have to be a first without retention.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Would take Chabot +

 

[King Karl]

Would take Chabot +

 

[Hockeyholic]

Coyotes don't want to part with Keller.

So any offer would have to blow their socks off.

 

[AZviaNJ]

I think White to Arizona makes a ton of sense, even if Schmaltz isn't going the other way. I've said that in a number of threads. Arizona can give him playing time that Ottawa just can't.

Coyotes likely looking to get out from under Schmaltz' deal even though he's a decent player and could be very good as a 2nd liner for a playoff team. Taking on White's contract, unless it comes with a very nice addition in return for next to nothing is the only way the Coyotes would consider White. Sens could probably get a better offer for White elsewhere.

 

[Dead Coyote]

There's only one player on the Sens who I would trade Keller for, and his name rhymes with Stutzle (not a lot of things rhyme with Stutzle okay?). And even then there would need to be a 1st at least included if you want retention.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Coyotes likely looking to get out from under Schmaltz' deal even though he's a decent player and could be very good as a 2nd liner for a playoff team. Taking on White's contract, unless it comes with a very nice addition in return for next to nothing is the only way the Coyotes would consider White. Sens could probably get a better offer for White elsewhere.

I'd rather buyout White than trade him for Schmaltz