Keaton Ellerby

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losingsand

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Keaton Ellerby has now played 15 games for the kings which is a pretty good sample size for some opinions. However, I still have no idea what kind of Defenseman he is. I notice that he's not the best at making an extra move to buy time to make a small pass to get out of the zone, He's always just giving it right back to the opponent,. Noticed a tiny bit of toughness, and some good speed. But other than that, he's a difficult guy to characterize.

My main issue, and maybe its a systematic thing, is that he just doesn't seem very sharp. I usually agree with Sutter's decisions, but with Greene and Mitchell out, I think having Drewiske in the line-up is a better move than playing Ellerby.

When Drewiske's in the line-up, his PK minutes average up to 2nd behind Scuderi. Ellerby hasn't really shown that he can be a real shut-down type of guy, nor has he shown any real Puck Moving ability. The one thing i look for is an improvement, and I haven't seen much of it. I think we all agree that Scuderi is slipping a bit too, we need all the stay at home solidness we can get.

What are you seeing of Ellerby's play? Where do you see him fitting in the kings future?
 
He is Scuderi with upside and a little more physicality and better skating. He is a pure defensive defenseman. He has played 15 games, has a point, and is a +3 with the Kings. That's not too bad. He isn't expected to score, just keep pucks out of the net and don't detract from the team's offensive game.
 
I notice that he's not the best at making an extra move to buy time to make a small pass to get out of the zone, He's always just giving it right back to the opponent,. Noticed a tiny bit of toughness, and some good speed. But other than that, he's a difficult guy to characterize.

I think you nailed it in your post. Ellerby is just.... there. Doesn't mess up too much, doesn't make great plays, isn't overly physical, but isn't soft. Isn't fast, but isn't slow. He's a fine guy for that #7 spot, just like Drewiske is.

It kind of reminds me of when Brad Pitt is coaching Matt Damon in Oceans 11 when he's posing as the gambling commission guy. Be specific, but not memorable. Make him like you, but then make him forget you.
 
It kind of reminds me of when Brad Pitt is coaching Matt Damon in Oceans 11 when he's posing as the gambling commission guy. Be specific, but not memorable. Make him like you, but then make him forget you.

Good analogy! :handclap:
 
Keaton Ellerby has now played 15 games for the kings which is a pretty good sample size for some opinions. However, I still have no idea what kind of Defenseman he is. I notice that he's not the best at making an extra move to buy time to make a small pass to get out of the zone, He's always just giving it right back to the opponent,. Noticed a tiny bit of toughness, and some good speed. But other than that, he's a difficult guy to characterize.

My main issue, and maybe its a systematic thing, is that he just doesn't seem very sharp. I usually agree with Sutter's decisions, but with Greene and Mitchell out, I think having Drewiske in the line-up is a better move than playing Ellerby.

When Drewiske's in the line-up, his PK minutes average up to 2nd behind Scuderi. Ellerby hasn't really shown that he can be a real shut-down type of guy, nor has he shown any real Puck Moving ability. The one thing i look for is an improvement, and I haven't seen much of it. I think we all agree that Scuderi is slipping a bit too, we need all the stay at home solidness we can get.

What are you seeing of Ellerby's play? Where do you see him fitting in the kings future?

I think you're unfairly comparing him to Drewiske. 15 games in a new team and conference vs. 4 years in the same system. There's a lot to learn. He's still trying to adapt his own game. He doesn't look like he's communicating much on the ice, which tells me he's still trying to get comfortable within the team and executing his own game the right way.

As for how I see him, I see him as a poor man's tough version of Bouwmeester. He has little offensive touch, but uses toughness and mobility to play a defensive game.
 
I think you're unfairly comparing him to Drewiske. 15 games in a new team and conference vs. 4 years in the same system. There's a lot to learn. He's still trying to adapt his own game. He doesn't look like he's communicating much on the ice, which tells me he's still trying to get comfortable within the team and executing his own game the right way.

As for how I see him, I see him as a poor man's tough version of Bouwmeester. He has little offensive touch, but uses toughness and mobility to play a defensive game.

I agree with u 110% especially on being unfair by comparing him to Drewiske who's more familiar with the system and is 4 years older than Ells
 
While Drewiske is older, Ellerby has played more nhl games 140 to 125 for Drewiske. Also, Drewiske has only played 20 games for Sutter whereas Ellerby has played 15. So, the comparison isn't as far off as it seems. I like Drewiske, but Ellerby probably does have a higher ceiling and thus gets the nod.
 
To me the Drewiske vs Ellerby comparison is LESS of a comparison, but more of what i feel the team at this point could benefit more from Drewiske's game. A PK'er that Sutter trusts. I am hoping Ellerby makes me forget i wrote this post, but for now simply i think Drewiske gives this team stability in a place where Mitchell and Greene being gone leaves a big hole.
 
I agree 100% with whatever Tonellisghost says about him ... WHATEVER IT IS ? :sarcasm:

Heck he was 100% right about Muzzin ... seems to know his prospects, D-men especially, so whatever Tonellisghost says goes.

Though I did say this in another thread a few days ago about Keaton ...

Ellerby is still young and frankly was rushed into the NHL by the Panthers it seems ... everyone from Lombardi, to Coach Sutter, on down knew what they picked up, a young D-man that was still rough around the edges, who had potential, but who would need time being properly coached and develop and brought along into our system (and the West Coast style of game play as well), a kid who could grow with our core D guys (Doughty, Voynov, etc) yet be a stop gap while Greene & Mitchell are down, a kid who maybe if all goes well could replace one of Mitchell, Scuderi or Greene when they move on or retire. Muzzin has turned it on the last 2-3 weeks or so, but he was almost everyone's scape goat and whipping boy prior to that, and that included the fans from Manchester, most who I think said Muzzin didn't even belong in the AHL, let alone NHL ... about the only one who stood his ground on Muzz was Tonellisghost, who's looking to be a GENIUS right about now ;) ... I say cut the kid some slack, and give him time ... long term I'd rather keep Ellerby over Drewiske, and I think that's Lombardi thinking too. But what do I know ? :)
 
I agree 100% with whatever Tonellisghost says about him ... WHATEVER IT IS ? :sarcasm:

Heck he was 100% right about Muzzin ... seems to know his prospects, D-men especially, so whatever Tonellisghost says goes.

Though I did say this in another thread a few days ago about Keaton ...

And just out of curiosity, what exactly did he say about Muzzin? I'm not knocking TG, but I don't recall anyone on this board praising Muzzin or even giving credit to DL for holding onto Muzzin over Hickey.
 
While Drewiske is older, Ellerby has played more nhl games 140 to 125 for Drewiske. Also, Drewiske has only played 20 games for Sutter whereas Ellerby has played 15. So, the comparison isn't as far off as it seems. I like Drewiske, but Ellerby probably does have a higher ceiling and thus gets the nod.

DD has been in the system for many years and he's been on hand for Sutter for almost a year now. Games on the ice argument only hurts DD because he hasn't been able to earn ice time under Sutter while Ellerby has not been sat a game.

Ellerby is unspectacular and that is a good thing. Even though some people haze him for a couple bad passes I'd wager he's the one of the safest Dmen out there. It's not his job to do too much with the puck and he knows it.
 
And just out of curiosity, what exactly did he say about Muzzin? I'm not knocking TG, but I don't recall anyone on this board praising Muzzin or even giving credit to DL for holding onto Muzzin over Hickey.

He had about a dozen 300 word posts about Muzzin and his thoughts on the decision.
 
DD has been in the system for many years and he's been on hand for Sutter for almost a year now. Games on the ice argument only hurts DD because he hasn't been able to earn ice time under Sutter while Ellerby has not been sat a game.

Ellerby is unspectacular and that is a good thing. Even though some people haze him for a couple bad passes I'd wager he's the one of the safest Dmen out there. It's not his job to do too much with the puck and he knows it.

youre probably right about that :handclap:
 
Ellerby=bowl of vanilla ice cream. Doesn't seem to excel in any area of the game, doesn't seem overly weak in any one area of the game. If he fell on the puck more for a whistle he would make Tim Watters proud.
 

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