Player Discussion Karlsson-vs-Panarin-vs-Seguin
- Thread starter LBpuzzels
- Start date
Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
- Oct 8, 2010
- 80,076
- 17,715
Thirty One
Safe is safe.
- Dec 28, 2003
- 28,981
- 24,357
I'd imagine all three would want to sign with the Rangers in a package deal.
Zats Muccarello
Grinder
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
It all depends on the price, otherwise, Seguin, Karlsson, Panarin in that order.
- Oct 23, 2014
- 30,365
- 43,067
Kendo
Registered User
Seguin probably. We haven't had a bonafide #1 center in quite a while. We've been lucky to have 1a's and 1b's, but have lacked that true "top 15ish center."
Karlsson is the real deal. He would be head and shoulders #1 pickup if it weren't for the fact that we have just so much gd money tied up in defensemen.
Panarin is exactly the kind of talent that can replace trading Zucc...albeit on the "wrong side." Again, just a detail that makes it more nuanced than a "no-brainer."
We could actually set up a scenario to make an earnest pitch to all three. If we can trade one of Staal/Smith with some salary retained (ADA can be added as a sweetener), trade 2 or more of Hayes, Zuccs, Names, and/or Spoons...then it wouldn't be impossible to attempt a homerun swing.
Karlsson is the real deal. He would be head and shoulders #1 pickup if it weren't for the fact that we have just so much gd money tied up in defensemen.
Panarin is exactly the kind of talent that can replace trading Zucc...albeit on the "wrong side." Again, just a detail that makes it more nuanced than a "no-brainer."
We could actually set up a scenario to make an earnest pitch to all three. If we can trade one of Staal/Smith with some salary retained (ADA can be added as a sweetener), trade 2 or more of Hayes, Zuccs, Names, and/or Spoons...then it wouldn't be impossible to attempt a homerun swing.
Machinehead
Fox Mafia Consigliere
Bob Richards
Mr. Mojo Risin'
Seguin: I will sign for $100
Panarin: If you sign him to that, I'm willing to take $75 to accommodate.
Karlsson: I literally love the New York Rangers/JD and the Straight Shot and I HATE the NHLPA so I'll pay you for ice time.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
Karlsson in UFA
Seguin in UFA
Panarin in UFA
Keep driving the tank
Fair trade for Karlsson
Fair trade for Seguin
Fair trade for Panarin
Seguin in UFA
Panarin in UFA
Keep driving the tank
Fair trade for Karlsson
Fair trade for Seguin
Fair trade for Panarin
Beer League Sniper
Homeless Man's Rick Nash
Seguin
Karlsson
Panarin
If Karlsson were a couple years younger, it'd be him easily. 1C and 1D hold roughly the same value. The value for a W just isn't the same.
That being said, I'd be pitching a tent if we landed any of them.
Karlsson
Panarin
If Karlsson were a couple years younger, it'd be him easily. 1C and 1D hold roughly the same value. The value for a W just isn't the same.
That being said, I'd be pitching a tent if we landed any of them.
redwhiteandblue
Registered User
- Apr 1, 2013
- 1,112
- 1,032
I feel like the wheels are going to fall off on EK so he would definitely be my last choice.
Seguin
Panarin
EK
Seguin is a legitimate 1C which this team needs. Seguin, Hayes, Chytil, Ders/Howden would be a good start to the '20 season.
Panarin is a legitimate game breaking scoring threat on the wing. A guy we haven't had since Gabi had his phenom season years back. Panarin might be a little more dynamic too. That would transform the offense. Especially with the way our farm has been built on the back end, I could be comfortable with a defense by committee of 6 legitimate NHL talents with maybe 1 or 2 standouts and a dynamic/potent offense.
EK scares me. An EK 8+ year deal scares me more than the Scott Gomez and Chris Drury deals.
Seguin
Panarin
EK
Seguin is a legitimate 1C which this team needs. Seguin, Hayes, Chytil, Ders/Howden would be a good start to the '20 season.
Panarin is a legitimate game breaking scoring threat on the wing. A guy we haven't had since Gabi had his phenom season years back. Panarin might be a little more dynamic too. That would transform the offense. Especially with the way our farm has been built on the back end, I could be comfortable with a defense by committee of 6 legitimate NHL talents with maybe 1 or 2 standouts and a dynamic/potent offense.
EK scares me. An EK 8+ year deal scares me more than the Scott Gomez and Chris Drury deals.
NYRFANMANI
Department of Rempe Safety Management
I think Breaddude would fit nicely, need that winger and he'll most definitely be the cheapest of the three.
This place loves to overrate and overestimate what older offensive dmen will do here. I feel it's inevitable EK will be a fairly sizeable disappointment just like
Wade redden
Dan boyle
Kevin shattenkirk so far
Keith handle
Idk if Tom poti counts or if the offensive expectations we had for Roszival counts.
We've had great success bringing in wingers and abysmal luck with 1c or former 1c
Gomez
Drury
Richards
E staal
Almost everytime this fanbase gets all hyped for what a player will do here. Then they fall faaar short. We'll see
Wade redden
Dan boyle
Kevin shattenkirk so far
Keith handle
Idk if Tom poti counts or if the offensive expectations we had for Roszival counts.
We've had great success bringing in wingers and abysmal luck with 1c or former 1c
Gomez
Drury
Richards
E staal
Almost everytime this fanbase gets all hyped for what a player will do here. Then they fall faaar short. We'll see
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
Seguin - First line center, with other players falling in line around him.
Panarin - Incredibly underrated winger who gives us
Karlsson - Probably tops this list if I could shake my concerns about what type of player he is moving forward, namely in 3 years.
Panarin - Incredibly underrated winger who gives us
Karlsson - Probably tops this list if I could shake my concerns about what type of player he is moving forward, namely in 3 years.
thethirdhockeyman91
Registered User
- Jun 22, 2018
- 4,609
- 4,673
Can’t wait for drury Gomez part two next summer- Karlsson, Panarin both gonna be blue shirts. And they are not going to disappoint like the aftermentioned duo.
HockeyBasedNYC
Feeling it
Whats the likelihood that Panarin gets dealt before the season begins and signs an long term deal with the Rangers?
What would it cost? Hayes? Zucc? + Prospects +?. Definitely think the Rangers would kick the tires there, but some of it may depend on Torts relationship/impression of each of those guys going the other way. Does Torts thinks their games fit into his system well enough? I don't think he likes Zucc a ton.
But Columbus is going to have to move Panarin or risk losing him for nothing. They could go all year with him and he'll be an impact player for them but then they'll have a really difficult decision to make once playoffs come around. If they are hot going in that would really suck for them.
Keep him and pull a NYI/Tavares nightmare scenario or move him to the highest bidder? Do it now and they might maximize his value a little more. Tough call!
What would it cost? Hayes? Zucc? + Prospects +?. Definitely think the Rangers would kick the tires there, but some of it may depend on Torts relationship/impression of each of those guys going the other way. Does Torts thinks their games fit into his system well enough? I don't think he likes Zucc a ton.
But Columbus is going to have to move Panarin or risk losing him for nothing. They could go all year with him and he'll be an impact player for them but then they'll have a really difficult decision to make once playoffs come around. If they are hot going in that would really suck for them.
Keep him and pull a NYI/Tavares nightmare scenario or move him to the highest bidder? Do it now and they might maximize his value a little more. Tough call!
Off Sides
Registered User
- Sep 8, 2008
- 9,755
- 5,585
Seguin is a center that would allow for the other centers to play down the roster, possibly setting up favorable match-ups throughout the line-up
Panarin is a wing, I too think in the mold of what Gaborik, Nash, Zucc provided, yet if the rest of the team is not so good, not sure I see him being able to elevate the whole teams roster to another level.
Karlsson, I think has too many prior injury concerns for me to want to see that next contract on the Rangers.
Panarin is a wing, I too think in the mold of what Gaborik, Nash, Zucc provided, yet if the rest of the team is not so good, not sure I see him being able to elevate the whole teams roster to another level.
Karlsson, I think has too many prior injury concerns for me to want to see that next contract on the Rangers.
NYR Viper
Registered User
I would say:
Karlsson
Seguion
Panarin
In that order. But this doesn't take into account what each player's contract will look like. That plays a role
Karlsson
Seguion
Panarin
In that order. But this doesn't take into account what each player's contract will look like. That plays a role
AKA Chief
Registered User
- Sep 29, 2017
- 258
- 192
