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Did he not hire his lawyer to pick apart the accuser's story?
Of course. That doesn't make flirting at the bar 'interesting'.
Did he not hire his lawyer to pick apart the accuser's story?
Maybe I'm completely alone here, but we've heard nothing from the Kane camp, essentially. If you're Kane and you 100% know you are not guilty of what you're being accused of, don't you come right out and adamantly publicly deny any wrongdoing? I mean, I get lawyering up, even if I knew I was innocent I would do that, but I'd sure as hell want to come out fighting and denying I did anything than to be sitting back waiting silently on an investigation. I'm not stirring the pot and using this as a sly way to say I think Kane did anything, I'm speaking strictly on how I would feel if I'm the one being accused in this scenario. Is this too simpleton of thinking on my part?
I think there's definitely a chance that Kane was blackout drunk and he himself has no idea what happened.
I'd be willing to bet that Kane has alcohol at his house.That would contradict the bar owner's statement. I don't know if the bar owner's credible, but let's not selectively choose which among his statements to believe.
No doubt his lawyer will play blame the victim, even if her story is 100% true.
Maybe I'm completely alone here, but we've heard nothing from the Kane camp, essentially. If you're Kane and you 100% know you are not guilty of what you're being accused of, don't you come right out and adamantly publicly deny any wrongdoing? I mean, I get lawyering up, even if I knew I was innocent I would do that, but I'd sure as hell want to come out fighting and denying I did anything than to be sitting back waiting silently on an investigation. I'm not stirring the pot and using this as a sly way to say I think Kane did anything, I'm speaking strictly on how I would feel if I'm the one being accused in this scenario. Is this too simpleton of thinking on my part?
Of course. That doesn't make flirting at the bar 'interesting'.
Maybe I'm completely alone here, but we've heard nothing from the Kane camp, essentially. If you're Kane and you 100% know you are not guilty of what you're being accused of, don't you come right out and adamantly publicly deny any wrongdoing? I mean, I get lawyering up, even if I knew I was innocent I would do that, but I'd sure as hell want to come out fighting and denying I did anything than to be sitting back waiting silently on an investigation. I'm not stirring the pot and using this as a sly way to say I think Kane did anything, I'm speaking strictly on how I would feel if I'm the one being accused in this scenario. Is this too simpleton of thinking on my part?
That would contradict the bar owner's statement. I don't know if the bar owner's credible, but let's not selectively choose which among his statements to believe.
Lmao yes it does. That's no excuse to rape someone, but it shows that there can be a motive behind these accusations. Any intelligent lawyer would be all over that.
I find it somewhat odd that he hasn't been charged yet. Is there something the police know or have as evidence that makes them unsure? But I'm no expert on this, so maybe that's normal protocol
Lmao yes it does. That's no excuse to rape someone, but it shows that there can be a motive behind these accusations. Any intelligent lawyer would be all over that.
His condition could have worsened after Kane left the bar.
Possible, but the alleged assault happened within an hour of them leaving the bar. Us guessing how drunk kane was is pointless.
So is you guessing what happened that night in general, which is why the point of this thread and all the articles written on this is pretty pointless at this moment. It's a whole bunch of speculation and preaching.
This is actually interesting now. Where were the friends in all this? Conceivably some of Kane's entourage was there with those other friends. Why was the accuser wondering around in Kane's house? Also, I've heard there were texts between these two, is that true?
What we do know is that Kane likely had sex with this girl at his house. That's it.
I find it somewhat odd that he hasn't been charged yet. Is there something the police know or have as evidence that makes them unsure? But I'm no expert on this, so maybe that's normal protocol?
Maybe I'm completely alone here, but we've heard nothing from the Kane camp, essentially. If you're Kane and you 100% know you are not guilty of what you're being accused of, don't you come right out and adamantly publicly deny any wrongdoing? I mean, I get lawyering up, even if I knew I was innocent I would do that, but I'd sure as hell want to come out fighting and denying I did anything than to be sitting back waiting silently on an investigation. I'm not stirring the pot and using this as a sly way to say I think Kane did anything, I'm speaking strictly on how I would feel if I'm the one being accused in this scenario. Is this too simpleton of thinking on my part?
Interesting take on the bar owner's potential motive for his statements:
http://www.dailypublic.com/articles...ent-news-about-pat-kane#.VcdBhN4ntYc.facebook
I agree that it is in extremely bad taste to dedicate a big portion of the story interviewing someone who even says he doesn't know this is the same woman. Just another not-so-subtle way of placing the blame on the alleged victim.
Well, you yourself made the following post in the last couple of pages
Isn't this speculation?
Technically we don't even know that.
Speculation might be pointless but you engage in it just as other people do. And, I would consider news articles relevant information, at least more relevant than message board talks.
I think there's definitely a chance that Kane was blackout drunk and he himself has no idea what happened.
I wouldn't infer anything from the silence. It's smart to keep your mouth shut, especially if sex took place and he was drunk and hazy on the detals.
I wonder how awkward his family Stanley Cup celebration was.
I don't think placing the blame on the victim had anything to do with it, personally. If I were a bar owner and was hearing all this speculation about something that started at my bar, I would want to clarify two things. One, my bar didn't over serve either party. And two, if one of my female patrons left my bar with some guy to go to his home, she did so under her own free will.
Police investigate the complaint, compile evidence and don't make an arrest until they have completed that work. So you almost certainly won't see an arrest until the lab work gets back.
After that, they present the evidence to the DA. And the DA's office is where a person is charged.
Case is still in the early stages. I'm not expecting to know whether Kane is going to be charged or not for months.
Speak up about what? If you were innocent of any wrongdoing and there were multiple woman in your home at the time of an alleged incident, you would not even know at this time which woman even made the complaint.
I don't think placing the blame on the victim had anything to do with it, personally. If I were a bar owner and was hearing all this speculation about something that started at my bar, I would want to clarify two things. One, my bar didn't over serve either party. And two, if one of my female patrons left my bar with some guy to go to his home, she did so under her own free will.
Nope. Worst case scenario is he's guilty, get's off, the Blackhawks publicly defend him and talk about him being a good guy in general, and then, he does it again.Yep and then spends a long time in prison.