Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko: Part IV

[Kakko Schmakko]

Is this guy going to produce for us or trade him and give Kravtsov a shot?

 

[Synergy27]

Panarin entered the league at age 24 man. Panarin at age 18/19 was not close to the player he is today. He even spent time in juniors in his D+1 season. He went undrafted 3(!) times.

How is this relevant? How is a completely unknown kid making huge leaps in development overseas anything like a consensus top pick struggling to score points for two years after having success against men before being drafted?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

How is this relevant? How is a completely unknown kid making huge leaps in development overseas anything like a consensus top pick struggling to score points for two years after having success against men before being drafted?

Look at what I was responding to:

 

[Synergy27]

Look at what I was responding to:

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Sorry. Missed that.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Sorry. Missed that.

Yea a lot of us didn’t see that post. Lol.

 

[Scott r]

Wow, people in thread posting how you can't win with youngsters. Agreed, trade draft picks for older players. ..reasons like this tell me the avg fan is as intelligent as Archie bunker.

 

[huerter]

Wow, people in thread posting how you can't win with youngsters. Agreed, trade draft picks for older players. ..reasons like this tell me the avg fan is as intelligent as Archie bunker.

What an outdated reference. Just use Archie Miller.

 

[Scott r]

Late bloomer or not, at this point Kakko is a candidate for a cheap second contract.

Agreed

 

[Scott r]

I like the kid but he is on pace for less than 8 goals and 16 points in a full season.

Something needs to click for him.

Exactly........

 

[dangsLITE]

The visible frustration from KK almost every shift now just proves the lack of leadership from this team. He needs some encouragement but also tough love, and I don't think he's getting it from anyone.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I'd rather have Kakko with Panarin than Blackwell. Blackwell is quicker and might be more aggressive, but Kakko is our future. They simply swap spots, 2 vets get a kid, and 2 kids get a vet wandering pitbull.

KZB
Panarin Strome Kakko
Laffy Chytil Blackwell

I honestly think they are trying to build trade capital in Blackwell until Kravtsov comes

 

[GAGLine]

The visible frustration from KK almost every shift now just proves the lack of leadership from this team. He needs some encouragement but also tough love, and I don't think he's getting it from anyone.

I'm sure the other players and the coaching staff give him plenty of encouragement. There's only so much other people can do for him. He has been playing well defensively and he was very good last night. He made several defensive plays that led to offense. He stalled in the offensive zone, but that will come.

Some of you guys stress this stuff too much, I think. He's still a kid finding his way, but he is leaps and bounds better this year than he was last year. He will continue to improve. We just need to be patient.

Look at Zibanejad. Since he joined the rangers, he has done nothing but improve, and he was 23 when we traded for him. Kakko just turned 20.

 

[Scott r]

I'm sure the other players and the coaching staff give him plenty of encouragement. There's only so much other people can do for him. He has been playing well defensively and he was very good last night. He made several defensive plays that led to offense. He stalled in the offensive zone, but that will come.

Some of you guys stress this stuff too much, I think. He's still a kid finding his way, but he is leaps and bounds better this year than he was last year. He will continue to improve. We just need to be patient.

Look at Zibanejad. Since he joined the rangers, he has done nothing but improve, and he was 23 when we traded for him. Kakko just turned 20.

Then he is not playing to a number 1 overall....and bc zibinjad progressed doesn't mean he will. He does look good in def zone...like jan Erixson did. Jan was 2nd round pick. Whoever released that dumb video of the ot goal vs wild rookies last year should be classified as idiotic.....built this kid up to be an immediate impact player.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Just look at xG numbers, Kakko is 17th in the NHL for all forwards who have played minimum 200 minutes in relTMxGA/60. Meaning he's been an elite defensive player this season. When it comes to relTMxGF/60 he is 182nd in the league. Which sort of lines up with my eye test and i'm sure many others.

 

[Leonardo87]

What’s up with the Kakko thread in the trade forum ? Dude is only 20 yo.

 

[Mac n Gs]

What’s up with the Kakko thread in the trade forum ? Dude is only 20 yo.

Are you surprised? Look at who created the post.

 

[chosen]

Down on Kakko?

He's only 1 point behind Howden.

 

[chosen]

I honestly think they are trying to build trade capital in Blackwell until Kravtsov comes

To get a 6th round pick?

 

[Matt Rentfree]

What’s up with the Kakko thread in the trade forum ? Dude is only 20 yo.

#wenevergetagoodmainboardsthread

 

[mas0764]

Kind of amazing that it only took Knoblach like a handful of games to put Kakko on Panarin’s line.

 

[mas0764]

Kakko is immediately more noticeable on the Panarin-Strome line.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

looks great on the panarin strome line.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

looks great on the panarin strome line.

Should have never left.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Should have never left.

disagree. when he was on that line earlier in the season its clear he was in way over his head. he’s earned it now. he has an idea of what to do and is defensively responsible.

 

[Harbour Dog]

disagree. when he was on that line earlier in the season its clear he was in way over his head. he’s earned it now. he has an idea of what to do and is defensively responsible.

Agree 100%

Kakko's worst games of the season were on that line.

It's definitely where he belongs now though!