Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko: Part III
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Ghost of jas
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The catapult is being assembled as you read this.
Good thing I have experience with such instruments.
I said consistent minutes, not big minutes. Play them 14-15 mins every game without benching them suddenly for a period because of one bad shift.
And yes, PP is a big deal. First of all, even if it's just 30 seconds, it's still a good opportunity to score points and therefore a big confidence booster for a young guy. And secondly, even with low minutes, they'll get experience on it in both games and training, which is obviously important when you're talking about players who will likely be moving to big offensive roles in the long-run. Having Trouba there is just absolutely useless since he hasn't even shown to be useful. He made some appearances there in Winnipeg too but was shown to be mediocre at best
The benching of young players after a bad or lazy play is hardly uncommon. It is accountability. If they learn it early, they will learn it for their career.
I am all for them being tried on PP2, don't get me wrong. I am only saying that it is not a material amount of time. I am not sure about the Trouba point. Are you advocating that they play the point instead of him?
Ghost of jas
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I think there’s a difference between benching for lack of effort or lazy play, and benching because they tried something they have the skill to pull off but need to figure out how to do it in the nhl. The first teaches accountability the second stifles creativity.
We want kids who hustle, but not all players are carbon copy molds of each other and some kids need to pull of moves to gain space and time.
Got to tell you, with all the kids that played here last year, I do not see creativity being stifled.
They are being clearly communicated to. I see no evidence of confusion.
I've been watching Paul Maurice handling Laine, Connor and Ehlers for the last 4 years and there has been very few times he has benched them like Quinn does every other game. Punishing every little mistake is not the way to go. Kakko looks terrified to make a mistake at this point
TDA on point. I'd use Kakko and Laf on walls, but I imagine Laf would also be excellent in front of the net so Kakko - Buch on walls, would work well too
Rongomania
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Maurice is a real coach. That is the difference. Quinn is still a total rookie. The Jets don't progress greatly because nobody wants to sign an FA deal to play in Antarctica.
Kakko's got a great stat line through 3 games in limited minutes. I don't get the worry that he's not 'dominating.' He's playing on the third line and not really on the powerplay, scored a great goal at even strength, and his line has owned the puck with him doing a lot of the heavy lifting both down low in the offensive zone and in transition where he really struggled last year.
We were all disappointed by his season last year, but I'm really encouraged by his play so far. The whole conversation of ice time only came up bc people started comparing Hughes and Kakko's starts.
We were all disappointed by his season last year, but I'm really encouraged by his play so far. The whole conversation of ice time only came up bc people started comparing Hughes and Kakko's starts.
Look at how he played against NHL players in WC before the draft, and compare it to how he plays now. Night and day difference. He doesn't even bother to try the things that got him drafted #2oa anymore.
GbgRanger
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Laf is now on the first line bumping down Buch and sending Kreider to his off wing.
Meanwhile Kakko is still stuck in doghouse line. I cannot really see how Laf's play was that much better than Kakko's to earn that.
Meanwhile Kakko is still stuck in doghouse line. I cannot really see how Laf's play was that much better than Kakko's to earn that.
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You 'Orns!
Or it could just be that the DiG-PC-KK line has been effective and there's no reason to break it up.
Seems more like an attempt to get Strome's line going by putting the two hottest wingers on the team together. Not sure that's the best coaching, but still, not necessarily a slight on Kakko.
You are comparing a picture of him receiving a medal to him two years later in the NHL? Ok. And please, let's not get into the caliber of players that were in WC. Night and day differential with what is in the NHL. He is fine and far from a deer in the headlights you are painting him to be.
How in the name of anything is playing on the third line with Chytil (with whom he has played well and has showed chemistry) a friggin' doghouse line? Perhaps it is that, and not some sort of imagined punishment, the reason that he is playing with Chytil
It's a video you tool.
The whole team US was NHL players. He is literally playing vs Hughes, Sutter and Hanifin in the spot I linked to. Are those not NHL caliber players? Get a grip.
You are the one who posted the video as evidence.
I have a grip. Were that team a true representation of an NHL team will look like on a night in, night out basis. Get a reality check.
You are clearly watching a game on a completely different channel than most if you believe that Kakko has a dear in head lights look.
Kakko was playing on bigger ice and was on a Finnish team that is always renowned for their discipline, structure, and puck pursuit. The NYR play higher competition, on a smaller rink, and are renowned for playing pond hockey at the NHL level.
You said i was comparing picture of him with a medal to him now, and then claimed WC doesnt have NHL caliber players when I literally linked a video of Kakko playing brilliantly vs well above average NHL players? I dont get you
GeorgeKaplan
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NA players barely care about the WC, the ones who go usually just go for a free vacation/wind down from the season
I have never bought this argument. Most top athletes either absolutely hate losing or love winning. Even the national level ones I know. They wont just go on a vacation to risk of career altering injuries vs guys that will play very hard
No, I said that the the team does not resemple what a true NHL team will resemble on most nights. I said that the caliber is not the same. While the WC team was full of NHL players, most NHL teams will beat such a constructed team on most nights.
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