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Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko: Part III

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aufheben said:
Kakko is never going to be good as Svechnikov just because we’re the Rangers.
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You don’t need to shoot like Shanahan or snipe like Sakic to be an elite scorer. Brains and size go a long way. Hossa wasn’t the fastest, and he wasn’t known for his shot, but he anticipated as well as any forward and had exceptional strength and conditioning (I think Keith Tkachuk said he was the strongest player he ever faced). I see parallels between KK (when he’s on) and the Hoss.
 
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CasusBelli said:
You don’t need to shoot like Shanahan or snipe like Sakic to be an elite scorer. Brains and size go a long way. Hossa wasn’t the fastest, and he wasn’t known for his shot, but he anticipated as well as any forward and had exceptional strength and conditioning (I think Keith Tkachuk said he was the strongest player he ever faced). I see parallels between KK (when he’s on) and the Hoss.
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I didn’t say anything about his skill set lol
 
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He just needs to shoot more. He needs to be more selfish. His linemates often drag him down save Chytil who seems to be the only guy he can play with in the bottom lines. Howden destroys him.
He needs to be up with Ziba and Buch
 
During the covid break Kakko was on a Finnish podcast, where he was extremely critical about his performance and brutally honest aswell. He was also stating that he didn't quite understand all coaches decisions regarding his ice time and line where he plays, but he was asked about it and then also added that he just simply needs to play better to get more ice time.

He used this break very well, trained a lot and skated pretty much all the time. It's very delightful to see him play this well, especially after long break and playoffs hockey, where you need to be at your best if you want to win. Gives very good signal for the next season.
 
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karhukissa said:
During the covid break Kakko was on a Finnish podcast, where he was extremely critical about his performance and brutally honest aswell. He was also stating that he didn't quite understand all coaches decisions regarding his ice time and line where he plays, but he was asked about it and then also added that he just simply needs to play better to get more ice time.

He used this break very well, trained a lot and skated pretty much all the time. It's very delightful to see him play this well, especially after long break and playoffs hockey, where you need to be at your best if you want to win. Gives very good signal for the next season.
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Link?
 
This break has been so good for Kakko. He’s been our best skater of the playoffs so far. It’s a shame no one else is playing well because if we could add this version if Kakko to the version of our team before the break from COVID we’d be pretty dangerous.
 
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EdJovanovski said:
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Here's the link to that podcast, Kakko's part begins on 35:00
https://m.soundcloud.com/urheilucast/uc198

Some reference what he said: He was asked that how does it feel when you were moved around to different lines quite often. He replied that of course it was difficult when one game you play with Panarin and guys + 1st PP and then next game 3rd line with 2nd PP and he just tried to work hard and improve to get back to 1st PP and line with Panarin.

He was also asked that did he have a good communication with coach regarding his game and effort, and he replied that they talked a lot and he tried to do as he says, but he trusted more on other guys on the first 2 lines and added that they played well so he had no complains about that but of course he would've wanted to play with those guys.

Also he said that towards the end of the season he didn't really try anything special because if he tried something, then coach said that don't do this and don't do that. Also he wasn't used to just dumping puck out of the zone, and he needed to practise that after training session with his 3rd linemates.

But as a conclusion, he said that he just needs to adapt to everything and simply play better to get that position in the first lines, basically just have to take it and not expect it to be given just because he is 2nd overall pick.
 
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karhukissa said:
Here's the link to that podcast, Kakko's part begins on 35:00
#198 - Vieraana kolmen MM-kullan Kaapo Kakko + Maccelli NHL:ään?

Some reference what he said: He was asked that how does it feel when you were moved around to different lines quite often. He replied that of course it was difficult when one game you play with Panarin and guys + 1st PP and then next game 3rd line with 2nd PP and he just tried to work hard and improve to get back to 1st PP and line with Panarin.

He was also asked that did he have a good communication with coach regarding his game and effort, and he replied that they talked a lot and he tried to do as he says, but he trusted more on other guys on the first 2 lines and added that they played well so he had no complains about that but of course he would've wanted to play with those guys.

Also he said that towards the end of the season he didn't really try anything special because if he tried something, then coach said that don't do this and don't do that. Also he wasn't used to just dumping puck out of the zone, and he needed to practise that after training session with his 3rd linemates.

But as a conclusion, he said that he just needs to adapt to everything and simply play better to get that position in the first lines, basically just have to take it and not expect it to be given just because he is 2nd overall pick.
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Bolded is what always worries me with certain coaches. You only get better by making tweaks to mistakes you’ve made in the past, by not allowing the mistakes you’re stunting growth and stifling creativity.
 
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3rd Guy High said:
Bolded is what always worries me with certain coaches. You only get better by making tweaks to mistakes you’ve made in the past, by not allowing the mistakes you’re stunting growth and stifling creativity.
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If you’re not ready to walk an NHL D than keeping at it is dumb and will destroy confidence when the opponents repeatedly capitalize on your silly turnovers. Kakko didn’t look ‘stunted’ or not creative these past 2 games. If anything he’s learning how and when to apply his skills at the NHL level which is what you want.
 
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karhukissa said:
Here's the link to that podcast, Kakko's part begins on 35:00
#198 - Vieraana kolmen MM-kullan Kaapo Kakko + Maccelli NHL:ään?

Some reference what he said: He was asked that how does it feel when you were moved around to different lines quite often. He replied that of course it was difficult when one game you play with Panarin and guys + 1st PP and then next game 3rd line with 2nd PP and he just tried to work hard and improve to get back to 1st PP and line with Panarin.

He was also asked that did he have a good communication with coach regarding his game and effort, and he replied that they talked a lot and he tried to do as he says, but he trusted more on other guys on the first 2 lines and added that they played well so he had no complains about that but of course he would've wanted to play with those guys.

Also he said that towards the end of the season he didn't really try anything special because if he tried something, then coach said that don't do this and don't do that. Also he wasn't used to just dumping puck out of the zone, and he needed to practise that after training session with his 3rd linemates.

But as a conclusion, he said that he just needs to adapt to everything and simply play better to get that position in the first lines, basically just have to take it and not expect it to be given just because he is 2nd overall pick.
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Oh boy. This just sounds like @usekakkorightquinn :laugh:
 
romba said:
If you’re not ready to walk an NHL D than keeping at it is dumb and will destroy confidence when the opponents repeatedly capitalize on your silly turnovers. Kakko didn’t look ‘stunted’ or not creative these past 2 games. If anything he’s learning how and when to apply his skills at the NHL level which is what you want.
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Agreed, but it sounds like the way Quinn was telling him to do that wasn't very good. His tone gives the impression that he isn't exactly a fan of Quinn. It sounds awfully familiar to how Kravtsov described his communications with Quinn too. For a development coach he sure seems to have issues with how he is communicating with the young guys.
 
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The New Russian Five said:
Agreed, but it sounds like the way Quinn was telling him to do that wasn't very good. His tone gives the impression that he isn't exactly a fan of Quinn. It sounds awfully familiar to how Kravtsov described his communications with Quinn too. For a development coach he sure seems to have issues with how he is communicating with the young guys.
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Quinn’s trying to win games. The 3rd time he pulledthe dipsy doodle and lose the puck move and then immediately give up on the play while the D fumbles their way out of the zone untouched because he was dejectedly dragging his defeated ass to the bench instead of aggressively trying to win the puck back, a good yelling or two was in order for that, and it seems to have worked. I think Quinn played the nice guy for a while and then turned on the heat to get through to him. VK will be able to handle that too as he matures.
 
romba said:
Quinn’s trying to win games. The 3rd time he pulledthe dipsy doodle and lose the puck move and then immediately give up on the play while the D fumbles their way out of the zone untouched because he was dejectedly dragging his defeated ass to the bench instead of aggressively trying to win the puck back, a good yelling or two was in order for that, and it seems to have worked. I think Quinn played the nice guy for a while and then turned on the heat to get through to him. VK will be able to handle that too as he matures.
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This.
 
The New Russian Five said:
For a development coach he sure seems to have issues with how he is communicating with the young guys.
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It actually sounds like Quinn's messages come through very clearly. All of the players know what is expected of them. It is then up to them if they are going to listen. Kakko is no different than DeAngelo that way. Or frankly anyone else.
 
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Inferno said:
Quinn definitely stifles offensive production. I mean look at the horrendous offensive years DeAngelo, panarin, and zibanejad were having.


Kakko didn't get ice time because he was awful. Period.

Kakko is playing much better...and lo and behold was the guy to move up.
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Hmmm... I think your theory needs more conspiracy. :sarcasm:
 
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