LeBrun: Juuse Saros to sign 8 year extension worth 7.74 M AAV

[TommyDangles]

This is starting to get redundant. Richter didn't "block" Lundquist. Markstrom didn't block Demko. There's no reason to continue this. Signing Saros was the right move. You don't trade a top 5 goalie for peanuts because you have a guy in the system who is slightly above average in the AHL. He was the 17th ranked goalie in the AHL this year. He's not a Demko who was ready. He might never be ready. We drafted Brent Krahn at 9OA. By your logic we should have traded Kipper because of it

Richter retired during Lundqvist's 3rd year. Markstrom was a FA once Demko took the reigns at 25.

Just bad examples that make no sense. Neither of those young goalies dealt with a guy being signed for another decade once you're about to break in.

You don't draft a guy with the 11th pick if you're never planning on giving him the reigns. He will demand a trade out.

 

[JKG33]

Except all 4 prove you wrong because you said goalies get overcooked in the AHL yet they're the 4 most recent 1st round goalies besides Askarov and got a ton of games right away. You don't use that capital and just sit on it for a 6-7 years.

Because Knight and Samsonov worked out so well? At least try to keep up

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

People in here acting like Vokoun didn't usurp Dunham for the starter role on the Preds until his mid-twenties. Or like Rinne didn't usurp Ellis for the starting role until his mid-twenties. Or like Saros didn't usurp Rinne for the starting role until *his* mid-twenties.

The Preds have done this song and dance time and time again, and they're a team that has pretty consistently had solid goaltending. I would not be surprised at all if they platoon Saros and Askarov for a couple of years before deciding who stays and who goes.

It has nothing do with Saros as a a player and development of Askarov, it has to do with their roster having glaring holes and using Saros to fix that hole. It's pure asset management.

 

[TheNumber4]

I do have faith in Askarov, but Nashville has one of the few elite goalies in the NHL and just extended him to a reasonable deal. That's fine too.

Unfortunately, Askarov might go for cheap, considering how little goalies seem to fetch on the market. But that's life.

Do you think it’s a foregone conclusion Askarov is traded?

 

[vcanuck]

8 years for a 29-year-old goalie coming off an underwhelming season

Oof

and got outplayed by Silovs in the 1st rnd

 

[LOFIN]

It has nothing do with Saros as a a player and development of Askarov, it has to do with their roster having glaring holes and using Saros to fix that hole. It's pure asset management.

Look, I agree, they probably should've used Saros to fix some holes. Then we saw the Markström and Ullmark deals happen. So much for fixing the holes in Calgary and Boston huh?

Goalies just don't fetch that much.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Because Knight and Samsonov worked out so well? At least try to keep up

50% chance on Askarov on being ready for the show according to past 1st round goalie results, 0% chance that Gustav Nyquist scores 70+ points next year but hey Saros can play at a .906 again for them which is needed

 

[Soundgarden]

Akira Schmid and a 2nd for Askarov?

Nemec or get lost. Not trading our best prospect for dog shit.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Look, I agree, they probably should've used Saros to fix some holes. Then we saw the Markström and Ullmark deals happen. So much for fixing the holes in Calgary and Boston huh?

Goalies just don't fetch that much.

One of those teams is blatantly tanking for futures and the other team didn't do a sign and trade to increase his value, of course the returns are gonna be shit. Are we assuming that Trotz does a shitty job that he doesn't have a sign and trade in place to improve Saros's value? If we do, then duh the return is gonna be bad. Sorry for me having faith in an executive doing his job properly lol

 

[JKG33]

50% chance on Askarov on being ready for the show according to past 1st round goalie results, 0% chance that Gustav Nyquist scores 70+ points next year but hey Saros can play at a .906 again for them which is needed

Lmfao why the f*** do you keep bringing up Nyquist?

Let's sat Florida follows your strategy, and dumps Bobrovsky after signing Knight outta college. What happens then? Certainly not a Stanley Cup

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Nemec or get lost. Not trading our best prospect for dog shit.

Devils are the last team to probably ask for Askarov at this point tbh. Canes make too much sense and so do the Leafs

 

[joestevens29]

Demko took over when he was 25. Askarov has 3 years before he's 25

And saros is under contract for 9 years….

 

[CupofOil]

that’s a terrible contract if you ask me

How so? Elite goalie in his prime. It's a million less per year than Helleybuck, sounds about right.

 

[Bone Density]

Devils are the last team to probably ask for Askarov at this point tbh. Canes make too much sense and so do the Leafs

I tend to agree but Markstrom is not a long term solution. I think Fitz wants to give Daws/Schmid those two years to grow though, see if they can become a starter.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Lmfao why the f*** do you keep bringing up Nyquist?

Let's sat Florida follows your strategy, and dumps Bobrovsky after signing Knight outta college. What happens then? Certainly not a Stanley Cup

Because you clearly think the rest of their roster is decent enough to keep Saros to compete for this extension to be worth it. Why else would you sign a 29 year old goalie coming off of his worst year? Maybe follow along a bit.

 

[joestevens29]

Let's say Bedard was drafted by the Oilers. Should they have traded away McDavid during Bedards ELC?

Askarov is good, an could become the best goalie in the league. Saros is already a top-5 goalie in the league, who has played how many games?

Yeah

Doesn’t work with forwards or even dmen for that matter

 

[King In The North]

What is the goal for Nashville here. Bc I thought they were trying to retool with high picks eventually. This prevents them from ever drafting early.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I guess in your scenario, you trade Saros? For peanuts? Look at what Markström and Ullmark just fetched.

Yes. There’s more to a trade than what’s going and what’s coming back. Ullmark (and presumably Saros) had less value than expected because of term. An acquiring team was on the hook for this kind of commitment and it’s not desirable.

I don’t feel strongly about this decision one way or the other. My only point that there was a different way to bridge to Askarov.

 

[Mickey Marner]

That contract might as well come with a grave plot.

 

[BKarchitect]

Not sure how I feel about this but I’m not a Preds fan so I would defer to them. If they think it was the smart move…or maybe the only move…good on Nashville for going for it. That core…the meaningful part of that team…is surprisingly old really when you think about it. Not old as in past it, just old as in you need to kind of for for it in about the next 2-3 year window. Saros, FF9, Josi, ROR, Nyquist.

Then again they also have a pretty deep prospect pool and a gem of a goalie prospect. Are they going to try to thread the needle and do this “we are going for it but also building the future” thing or will we see them really be aggressive with dealing picks, prospects, maybe even some young players already on the team…and also go after headliner UFAs…to try and lift the aforementioned veteran core to the next level, to truly open a short window?

 

[CanadienShark]

Not bad at all for cap. Term is long. Funny, I just had a dream he re-signed for 4 years at $5.75m for some bizarre reason.

 

[Soundgarden]

What is the goal for Nashville here. Bc I thought they were trying to retool with high picks eventually. This prevents them from ever drafting early.

We have a top 5-10 prospect pool and a core of Saros, Josi, Forsberg and ROR. We're not tanking, I'm sure we'll grab some more pieces as the off-season starts. Probably Pesce + Necas or something.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Not sure how I feel about this but I’m not a Preds fan so I would defer to them. If they think it was the smart move…or maybe the only move…good on Nashville for going for it. That core…the meaningful part of that team…is surprisingly old really when you think about it. Not old as in past it, just old as in you need to kind of for for it in about the next 2-3 year window. Saros, FF9, Josi, ROR, Nyquist.

Then again they also have a pretty deep prospect pool and a gem of a goalie prospect. Are they going to try to thread the needle and do this “we are going for it but also building the future” thing or will we see them really be aggressive with dealing picks, prospects, maybe even some young players already on the team…and also go after headliner UFAs…to try and lift the aforementioned veteran core to the next level, to truly open a short window?

Simple answer: Nashville is hoping for a "Dallas moment". Draft in high quantities in the first four rounds every year until a bunch of young talent trickles their way in.

 

[JKG33]

Simple answer: Nashville is hoping for a "Dallas moment". Draft in high quantities in the first four rounds every year until a bunch of young talent trickles their way in.

But what if I'd rather listen to the masterminds on HF? Clearly Trotz doesn't have a clue right guys???

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

That AAV is pretty good