Proposal: JT Miller for Jake Guentzel

[Canadian Canuck]

Jake Guentzel


JT Miller
Michael Dipietro


Swap of Players to shake things up. Guentzel is more of a natural goal scorer but Miller can play all three forward positions, is more gritty and might fit perfectly with Crosby.

Saves Pittsburgh 750k in cap. Miller’s deal expires a year earlier and is a year older.

Just a basis of a deal. Was well received by fans of both teams in another thread.

Thoughts?

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[Boondock]

Jake Guentzel


JT Miller
Michael Dipietro


Swap of Players to shake things up. Guentzel is more of a natural goal scorer but Miller can play all three forward positions, is more gritty and might fit perfectly with Crosby.

Saves Pittsburgh 750k in cap. Miller’s deal expires a year earlier and is a year older.

Just a basis of a deal. Was well received by fans of both teams in another thread.

Thoughts?

This Canuck fan would have ZERO interest in this deal. Guentzal makes more cap, doesn't have the positional flexibility and the Canucks add DiPietro. No thanks. Bad deal for VanCity.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

This Canuck fan would have ZERO interest in this deal. Guentzal makes more cap, doesn't have the positional flexibility and the Canucks add DiPietro. No thanks. Bad deal for VanCity.

Fair enough!

 

[Gurglesons]

I’d probably do it reluctantly as a Penguins fan.

Not sure the add of Dipietro makes sense though.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I don't think its a bad trade actually.

Would require both teams believing they have a legit shot at the playoffs and would just like a shakeup rather than a retool/rebuild but I think its closer to fair than a lot of deals on these boards.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I’d probably do it reluctantly as a Penguins fan.

Not sure the add of Dipietro makes sense though.

Definitely doesn’t need to be in the deal

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

... but why?

 

[Hally BlackWood]

I dunno as a fan of neither team. I’d say no if I was Pittsburg. Just my opinion

 

[Canadian Canuck]

... but why?

Shakeup the Locker room and team. Needed imo

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I’d rather Guz as a neutral fan. This is because I believe he’s a better 2 way player and better scorer. Also I don’t think Vancouver needs another goal scorer but rather a play maker.

 

[Gurglesons]

I’d rather Guz as a neutral fan. This is because I believe he’s a better 2 way player and better scorer. Also I don’t think Vancouver needs another goal scorer but rather a play maker.

Guentzel is clearly the better offensive talent but Miller also adds some elements the Penguins desperately need. Analytics crowd would roast PIT for making this deal.

 

[Jacob]

One bozo for another.

 

[Peter Griffin]

If Miller is dealt I’d rather it be for younger pieces, preferably a RH’ed d-man. Swapping Miller for Guentzel doesn’t improve our current roster so what’s the point?

 

[Gurglesons]

If Miller is dealt I’d rather it be for younger pieces, preferably a RH’ed d-man. Swapping Miller for Guentzel doesn’t improve our current roster so what’s the point?

K. Marino for Miller and Schenn.

 

[Peter Griffin]

K. Marino for Miller and Schenn.

Should’ve been more specific. A RH’ed d-man to pair with Quinn Hughes. Marino isn’t the type I’d ideally want next to Quinn.

 

[Night Shift]

As a Pens fan I think I'd do it if Malkin Crosby and Letang were staying. Otherwise if not, I'd rather picks and a prospect for Guentzel

 

[Patagonia]

Jake Guentzel


JT Miller
Michael Dipietro


Swap of Players to shake things up. Guentzel is more of a natural goal scorer but Miller can play all three forward positions, is more gritty and might fit perfectly with Crosby.

Saves Pittsburgh 750k in cap. Miller’s deal expires a year earlier and is a year older.

Just a basis of a deal. Was well received by fans of both teams in another thread.

Thoughts?

Excellent proposal as the values are close. Just don’t believe VAN would be interested when the need is RHD.

 

[Gurglesons]

Should’ve been more specific. A RH’ed d-man to pair with Quinn Hughes. Marino isn’t the type I’d ideally want next to Quinn.

What is the type? Marino is more of a defensive D than offensive.

 

[Peter Griffin]

What is the type? Marino is more of a defensive D than offensive.

Sorry, I think I was thinking of Matheson. Marino would be a nice add, don’t think I’d move Miller for him though. Would prefer someone younger and less proven with hopefully a higher upside or more physical game which the Canucks are lacking on the backend. Marino just doesn’t interest me enough to move the team’s leading scorer.

 

[Night Shift]

What is the type? Marino is more of a defensive D than offensive.

Just a thought but I know Marino suffered a sophomore slump last year and this year is hard to say as its early and the team looks worse than their .500 record. But if we decided to move the big 3, at 24 years old he may be good to have around to lead a younger team and blue line.

 

[innitfam]

I guess, I would prefer a larger trade for Guentzel + Marino though.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

I guess there's potential for Guentzel to spark the team, but Miller has been far from the problem and positionally its a lateral move at best.

Throwing in DiPietro makes it less appealing.

 

[elitepete]

K. Marino for Miller and Schenn.

Canucks accept. I would be really happy with this trade. Is there any way we could add one of our rd and get back a forward? Like Myers for Zucker?

Marino+Zucker for Miller+Myers+3rd?

Pod-EP-Garland
Hog-Horvat-Boeser
Pearson-Dickinson-Zucker
Motte-Lammiko-Bailey

OEL-Marino
Hughes-Poolman
Rathbone-Hamonic


The forward group would take a hit but that defense is a lot better than before.

 

[elitepete]

Sorry, I think I was thinking of Matheson. Marino would be a nice add, don’t think I’d move Miller for him though. Would prefer someone younger and less proven with hopefully a higher upside or more physical game which the Canucks are lacking on the backend. Marino just doesn’t interest me enough to move the team’s leading scorer.

Marino is a 24 year old top pairing two way rd. He is really good defensively, good skater, can move the puck, and contribute 25-30 points as well. He would be a god send to us. Only problem is that he's a little weak physically, but he is 6'1, so he just needs to fill out a bit.

 

[Gurglesons]

Canucks accept. I would be really happy with this trade. Is there any way we could add one of our rd and get back a forward? Like Myers for Zucker?

Marino+Zucker for Miller+Myers+3rd?

Pod-EP-Garland
Hog-Horvat-Boeser
Pearson-Dickinson-Zucker
Motte-Lammiko-Bailey

OEL-Marino
Hughes-Poolman
Rathbone-Hamonic


The forward group would take a hit but that defense is a lot better than before.

Nah. Pens would be off setting Marino’s cap to the forward group makes no sense.