Seravalli: Josh Norris

[Figgy44]

Weegar is probably my favorite player in the league not on the Sens, so I'd love it if they could get something done, and he were interested. The NTC could be an issue.

I am a big Chabot fan, so might be the wrong Sens fan to talk to, but he's played much better this year so far. Tough one. I think it makes sense on paper, but makes it less intriguing. Ideally, we'd be using Zub's spot for Weegar, not giving up Chabot.

It may not be the best match because Ottawa is thin on futures to offer and I'd think that's the Flames' priority, but Weegar feels like the perfect fit. Easy to say about such a good player though, lots of teams would be interested.

I assume the NTC to go back to his hometown wouldn't be an issue, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, it looks like the mechanics to make such a swap work would be too complex, and such a move for Ottawa might be more luxury than necessity. Hopefully you guys figure out how to sort out that roster and get it going.

 

[KevinRedkey]

True. My intent was trying to figure out how to share a portion of the risk so the acquiring team doesn't have all the risk. Valid points that the way to do it is very complex and likely would mean GM aren't too interested in figuring it out. That's fair.



I think Ottawa has the pieces that could interest Calgary in moving Weegar in a mutually beneficial trade, but this wouldn't be it for me.

I wonder if salary can be a huge portion of the exchanged value? I was thinking Chabot based on some of the of season comments about him. (I apologize if he's no longer in that overpaid realm). But if the point is moving Norris, $16 mil is probably a ridiculous amount of contract to move. Insane blockbuster if it happened.

But again, it's probably too complicated and thus unlikely, but I'd actually be somewhat curious what that might look like that both teams might potentially nod to.

FWIW, Huberdeau and Weegar make about the same as Norris and Chabot

 

[nbwingsfan]

Unless another team is desperate I don’t see how this helps Ottawa to trade him.

They won’t get a player of equal value back

 

[Figgy44]

FWIW, Huberdeau and Weegar make about the same as Norris and Chabot

I don't see why Ottawa agrees to Huberdeau and Weegar for Norris and Chabot.... I feel like that move messes up the positional balance of both teams. I assume Ottawa wants some type of C back for Norris?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Norris for Cozens.

 

[Leafshater67]

Nashville is so desperate for a 2C, I think they have to consider taking on the risk of getting one, especially considering he would likely be cheap and they have the assets to acquire him.

He might be overpaid by 1-2m but they’ve gotta do something in Nashville. The tax situation and living in a much better city (sorry Ottawa) would probably be huge for Norris as well. I like his game and if he can stay healthy, he’d be a good fit there.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Thats a pretty good point TBH.

Karlsson (with heavy retention), Beaulivier, Bunting and Malkin are probably names that might interest the Sens.

Im trying to imagine a norris for malkin swap

Not working

 

[Barsky]

Norris for Cozens.

Done!

 

[Barsky]

Nashville is so desperate for a 2C, I think they have to consider taking on the risk of getting one, especially considering he would likely be cheap and they have the assets to acquire him.

He might be overpaid by 1-2m but they’ve gotta do something in Nashville. The tax situation and living in a much better city (sorry Ottawa) would probably be huge for Norris as well. I like his game and if he can stay healthy, he’d be a good fit there.

Considering the crime rate of your average American city, especially relative to Ottawa, much better is a bit of a stretch, but still, no need to apologize, it is what it is and Norris is American after all

 

[Leafshater67]

Considering the crime rate of your average American city, especially relative to Ottawa, much better is a bit of a stretch, but still, no need to apologize, it is what it is and Norris is American after all

You g rich athletes do t live in the bad parts though. Nashville is a really cool city and Ottawa is boring. Plus being American and playing in America couldn’t hurt.

 

[Barsky]

You g rich athletes do t live in the bad parts though. Nashville is a really cool city and Ottawa is boring. Plus being American and playing in America couldn’t hurt.

I like your username

 

[BoardsofCanada]

Nashville is so desperate for a 2C, I think they have to consider taking on the risk of getting one, especially considering he would likely be cheap and they have the assets to acquire him.

Are you under the impression Ottawa has to trade Norris? Ottawa's problem is goals against so if Norris returned a top 4 D, solid defensively, then I could see them making that move. Otherwise, they have no reason to move him and he certainly wouldn't be cheap.

 

[JPT]

Considering the crime rate of your average American city, especially relative to Ottawa, much better is a bit of a stretch, but still, no need to apologize, it is what it is and Norris is American after all

Meh city crime rate really should not come into it. These guys are living a county over in a place with an overall crime rate that is very low, with violent crimes happening at a rate of less than 1 per 100k.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I'd love him on the Hawks if they're just trying to clear cap but I wouldn't pay anywhere near what it should in a hockey deal.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Considering the crime rate of your average American city, especially relative to Ottawa, much better is a bit of a stretch, but still, no need to apologize, it is what it is and Norris is American after all

Nobody making seven figures is staying anywhere where the crime rate matters.

 

[Barsky]

Meh city crime rate really should not come into it. These guys are living a county over in a place with an overall crime rate that is very low, with violent crimes happening at a rate of less than 1 per 100k.

I was just talking about the cities themselves, not the gated communities these silver spoon-fed children live in, lol

Are you under the impression Ottawa has to trade Norris? Ottawa's problem is goals against so if Norris returned a top 4 D, solid defensively, then I could see them making that move. Otherwise, they have no reason to move him and he certainly wouldn't be cheap.

His overly inflated paychecks and imminent career ending shoulder injury are plenty reason enough for Ottawa to move him and yes, he would accordingly be relatively cheap

 

[SensFactor]

I'd love him on the Hawks if they're just trying to clear cap but I wouldn't pay anywhere near what it should in a hockey deal.

Teuravnin?

 

[Protas Zealots]

Considering the crime rate of your average American city, especially relative to Ottawa, much better is a bit of a stretch, but still, no need to apologize, it is what it is and Norris is American after all

yeah I member all the NHL players getting carjacked every other month in the infamous American city of Toronto

 

[NyQuil]

yeah I member all the NHL players getting carjacked every other month in the infamous American city of Toronto

It’s basically an American city.

 

[Barsky]

It’s basically an American city.

I sure wish it would fall into Lake Ontario and float it's way over there

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Teuravnin?

Up to me? In a nanosecond.

 

[Protas Zealots]

As for Norris, I personally would not touch him with that contract and those shoulder issues unless its like a Dubois for Kuemper situation with a Kuemper like contact going the other way.

Ottawa should keep him, force feed Pinto top 6 minutes then trade him at inflated value to an American team that thinks he's their long term solution at C and roll with Stutzle-Norris-Greig

 

[DackellDuck]

His overly inflated paychecks and imminent career ending shoulder injury are plenty reason enough for Ottawa to move him and yes, he would accordingly be relatively cheap

Norris’ contract is insured and if he does suffer a career ending shoulder injury, he goes on LTIR.

But right now, he’s on pace for 34 goals and is the Sens’ best defensive Center.

Even with the injury risk, they’re much better off just getting what they can out of him than trading him for peanuts and/or other contracts.

And if they worst happens and he does get hurt, they can just take the full cap space and use it somewhere else. That’s a better outcome than say, being stuck with Elvis Merzlikins.

 

[goonybird]

the worry if he gets seriously injured isn't his cap hit, it's that you just gave up a first and then some for a player who might not play beyond a couple seasons

 

[Barsky]

Norris’ contract is insured and if he does suffer a career ending shoulder injury, he goes on LTIR.

But right now, he’s on pace for 34 goals and is the Sens’ best defensive Center.

Even with the injury risk, they’re much better off just getting what they can out of him than trading him for peanuts and/or other contracts.

And if they worst happens and he does get hurt, they can just take the full cap space and use it somewhere else. That’s a better outcome than say, being stuck with Elvis Merzlikins.

Disagree, that's 8 million that could be better spent and since shoulder injuries are almost a guarantee to never go away it's a matter of when not if imo. The org is looking to shake things up so he is the obvious move given how much better Chabby has been with Jensen. Even if they get peanuts for him, great, that 8 mil could easily get a better player on July 1 or failing that(cause it's Ottawa after all) gives the team FAR more flexibility going forward to make all sorts of moves that were non options under EM's ownership. And saying he's the best defensive centre on the Sens does not remotely make him a good defensive centre and I would argue he isn't that anyway since Timmy is better 2 way imo