Player Discussion Josh Anderson - The Rene Bourque Edition

[Deebs]

Good reminder that a prospect is not a finished product at the draft...

They aren't but only if they have the makeup of a person willing to put in the work. Point has always been a bulldog in that regard going back to Moose Jaw. You need to find out how the player ticks and if they're willing to do what needs to be done to reach his next level. Similar to what Slaf is currently doing.

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[rahad]

Can't believe some people wanted to keep him with the Habs last season. His value is completely gone this year. He has been a black hole for every forward this year. Armia is only 2 points behind him with less game played in the NHL.....

 

[LaP]

The thread title is more and more accurate every passing year

 

[salbutera]

Players have write off seasons.. unfortunate but it happens.

I fully expect Anderson to return to usual 22-25G pace next season.

 

[Shabs]

The thread title is more and more accurate every passing year

I actually would prefer bourque at this point

 

[LaP]

Players have write off seasons.. unfortunate but it happens.

I fully expect Anderson to return to usual 22-25G pace next season.

JA has two 20 goals season in career. His career average is exactly 20 goals every 82 games. If you need on average 82 games to score 20 goals with the TOI of a 2nd line player i'd say you are not a 20 goals scorer. Honestly people need to wake up and forget his 27 goals and 47 points season.

JA is a 3rd line player who had 2nd line TOI for most of his career despite having 3rd line production (on average 35 points every 82 games). If you would ice him on a 3rd line where he should be he really is a 15 goals and 30 points guy max. It's the same conundrum as DD. Increasing the TOI of a player also increase the amount of points he does. But if he's not good enough to play that role you are just artificially increasing his production.

JA should be playing on a 3rd line and as a 3rd line player he wont score 20 goals. It simply wont happen. He needs 82 games and 16 minutes of TOI on average to score 20. Not gonna happen on a 3rd line. Slaf is already a much better player than JA ever was.

 

[HabbyGuy]

I don't care if Josh Anderson is a 20 goal scorer ever again, all I want is him to give an honest effort on the ice. An engaged Josh Anderson is a effective player that brings benefit to this team. This season's Anderson is completely void of any use.

He's the one player that pisses me off the most on this team, all it would take to rectify that is effort. He's completely checked out and it's infuriating. I think I'm most upset because I'm a fan of his.

He should be relishing his role as a veteran on this young team, I dunno what the hell his issue is, but he needs to wake the f*** up.

Enough is enough.

 

[Wats]

He really is Rene Bourque 2.0 only on a worse contract. Thanks MB.

 

[teamfirst]

I don't care if Josh Anderson is a 20 goal scorer ever again, all I want is him to give an honest effort on the ice. An engaged Josh Anderson is a effective player that brings benefit to this team. This season's Anderson is completely void of any use.

He's the one player that pisses me off the most on this team, all it would take to rectify that is effort. He's completely checked out and it's infuriating. I think I'm most upset because I'm a fan of his.

He should be relishing his role as a veteran on this young team, I dunno what the hell his issue is, but he needs to wake the f*** up.

Enough is enough.

You're right , he could be very usefull if he get back to what made him succesfull in the past, the guy is looking lost out there dont know why.

Some players flourished under MSL but it seems like the opposite for Josh

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

At least René did something in the playoffs once

I agree with you 2021 me, Anderson is trash and the fakest of fake power forwards.

Good call.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Its weird because the way he talks about having the opportunity to play for the habs you'd think he would give a little more effort , is it effort or is he just slow this year , nagging injuries? He seems to be a step behind and I'm not convinced its something mental with Josh. I mean the goalscoring is obviously mental with him but the lack of effort and forecheck? Surely he's not mailing it in out there is he?

Like others have said he's useful when he's fast and heavy even if he never scores again but he's neither fast or heavy right now, by his own standards at least , he's been awful all around

 

[Trabdy2]

Anderson is the most problematic contract we have right now I think.

I don't mind Gallagher as much right now because at least he brings some leadership and can be somewhat effective in limited minutes. With Anderson, he's just not doing much of anything any time he's on the ice. Plays constantly fall apart on his stick.

I'd like to see us find a way to move on from Anderson soon, because I don't think our younger players are going to be able to thrive or find confidence when playing on a line with him. His cap hit isn't hurting us yet - but we don't want to be dealing with it in a couple years.

 

[Naslundforever]

Yeah Andy has now become my least favorite. Evans can play hockey at least and Gallagher makes the forum funny sometimes. Expensive 4th line I would not throw out to protect a lead. I’m sad Dvorak is coming back too. I guess the deadwood still shed the worst with Dadonov, Drouin, Hoffman… But these guys are overlapping too many of Suzuki’s good years as of next fall.

 

[yianik]

Well for the first part of the year he wasn't scoring but he was very engaged and trying. Most people were still good with him because the effort was there, but the luck wasn't.

Effort is gone now.

I think we wait until next year and hope he starts the season well, then try flipping him for whatever we can.

 

[Ezpz]

I mean he's taking therapy days every practice day at this point. It's clear as day that he's injured. I have no clue why they're not just letting him heal at home.

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

I mean he's taking therapy days every practice day at this point. It's clear as day that he's injured. I have no clue why they're not just letting him heal at home.

Keep playing him til he LTIRs himself

 

[Team_Spirit]

Angry Max Lap

*2 weeks later*

 

[Mrb1p]

When can a team fire a player? Anderson just isnt playing right now. Hes not even going through the motion, he literally loudly quitting.

What really stops a player from going "I dont want to play anymore but I want to keep collecting the pay check". Because thats what Andys doing.

 

[salbutera]

You're right , he could be very usefull if he get back to what made him succesfull in the past, the guy is looking lost out there dont know why.

Some players flourished under MSL but it seems like the opposite for Josh

Anderson is a simple North-South player that’s being asked to play East-West…which he’s miscast to perform at

 

[Rapala]

I always loved Maxime and was pissed when we let him go. Honest Player.

 

[Rapala]

Guy confidence is in the gutter..

Or he's injuried?

He needs a heart doctor long before he needs a shot doctor.

 

[Mrb1p]

He needs a heart doctor long before he needs a shot doctor.

Yes. They need to bring in Shea and Carey. Have him in a dark room and the two come in from behind and they shake him up like Batman did to Joker.

 

[GrandBison]

My explanation is that there is only one heart available for Armia and Anderson.

 

[morhilane]

When can a team fire a player? Anderson just isnt playing right now. Hes not even going through the motion, he literally loudly quitting.

What really stops a player from going "I dont want to play anymore but I want to keep collecting the pay check". Because thats what Andys doing.

There is unfortunately no clause to fire a player for not performing. But coaches can sit their asses in the stands and reduce their TOI. At which point the player's agent usually complains, loudly, how unfair that is that their vet isn't playing more.