Prospect Info: Jonah "The Man Child" Gadjovich

[krutovsdonut]

The AHL is an absolute grind. Most players are basically in maintenance mode, physically, once they get into the season. I don't think you have a very good understanding of either the intensity of pro hockey, or the intensity of off-season training if you're suggesting this.

you're saying that ahl drafted prospects do not have a custom tailored in season developmental program that takes precedence over game starts and game usage?

i thought that was pretty standard now. the ahl has less games than the nhl and, in the east at least, much less travel, and the games are stacked on weekends. it's not cookies and ice cream but its not the nhl.

 

[RobertKron]

you're saying that ahl drafted prospects do not have a custom tailored in season developmental program that takes precedence over game starts and game usage?

i thought that was pretty standard now. the ahl has less games than the nhl and, in the east at least, much less travel, and the games are stacked on weekends. it's not cookies and ice cream but its not the nhl.

So Gadjovich is going to head out of town to power skating camps in between games?

 

[VanJack]

He may have been a 'man child' in junior, but so far in his pro career he's been a 'boy child' with some serious skating issues.

 

[Hansen]

He may have been a 'man child' in junior, but so far in his pro career he's been a 'boy child' with some serious skating issues.

Local Man Boy Disappointingly Develops Into Boy Man

 

[krutovsdonut]

So Gadjovich is going to head out of town to power skating camps in between games?

that's kind of a leap from what i originally said about training in utica being good because there is not much travel, isn't it?

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Well he dropped some weight over the summer hoping to get quicker. Looked about the same to me...

 

[RobertKron]

that's kind of a leap from what i originally said about training in utica being good because there is not much travel, isn't it?

You said it would be similar to offseason training, regarding how it shouldn’t be an issue improving his skating drastically.

 

[krutovsdonut]

You said it would be similar to offseason training, regarding how it shouldn’t be an issue improving his skating drastically.

if you say so.

 

[RobertKron]

if you say so.

No, you said so. That’s the whole point.

with a little discipline, they can maintain a training schedule not far off summer training.

 

[geebaan]

Completely disappointed in this players progression unfortunately. Looks slower than Lucic and not as effective.

 

[krutovsdonut]

No, you said so. That’s the whole point.

what does that have to do with travelling to see a skating coach?

 

[biturbo19]

You can basically stick a fork in him.

The best-case scenario right now is that we can get a bit of AHL bottom-6 utility out of him for the next two years before he's released in 2021. But there's a strong chance he'll be in Kalamazoo just wasting a contract slot.

Yeah. He's done. He just hasn't improved as a skater, and you just can't play in the NHL without the ability to keep up with the pace of play. Maybe not even in the AHL. If he hasn't made any appreciable improvements in his skating by what is essentially 21 now...he's not going to.

Was always the gamble with him, that he has obvious goal-scoring touch around the net and you were basically betting on him improving his skating to at least a "barely serviceable" NHL level. Even bigger gamble in that he already had his "man body" at the draft, so you'd have been banking on technical improvements helping him. He hasn't even come close though. He's not even really at an AHL level of skating ability at this point.

 

[F A N]

You can basically stick a fork in him.

The best-case scenario right now is that we can get a bit of AHL bottom-6 utility out of him for the next two years before he's released in 2021. But there's a strong chance he'll be in Kalamazoo just wasting a contract slot.

If Darren Archibald can develop into a good AHL player I think Gadovich has a chance as well. But ya the odds are not good that he will develop into an NHL player at this point.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

If Darren Archibald can develop into a good AHL player I think Gadovich has a chance as well. But ya the odds are not good that he will develop into an NHL player at this point.

You know, the two of them even have a very similar skating stride. It's ugly haha. If he can will himself to get his feet moving around the rink at Archibald speed then of course he can have an Archibald-like career.

 

[MS]

If Darren Archibald can develop into a good AHL player I think Gadovich has a chance as well. But ya the odds are not good that he will develop into an NHL player at this point.

Archibald was an outlier who took until his late 20s to get where he did. And had a mean streak and hits like a truck, while Gadjovich is a big p***ycat.

I've said before the ex-Canuck he most reminds me of is PC Labrie, who did actually eventually play a few NHL games. But I think Gadjovich's skating is even worse than either Labrie or Archibald.

 

[RobertKron]

what does that have to do with travelling to see a skating coach?

What do you think players who need to overhaul their skating do in the offseason?

 

[krutovsdonut]

What do you think players who need to overhaul their skating do in the offseason?

so your theory is he can't work remotely with his ontario coach, the utica staff has no skating coaches who can work with his coach's program, and there are no skating coaches in the greater utica urban region who can assist him with his skating?

if i was him at his age, i'd be straight over to this place after practice. every. single. day.

Meet our Skating Coaches | Welcome to utcice

 

[krutovsdonut]

lol, never mind. googling utica skating coaches failed me. but he definitely should go there anyway.

 

[Nomobo]

lol, never mind. googling utica skating coaches failed me. but he definitely should go there anyway.

That place you linked to is in San Diego, a bit out of the way.

 

[krutovsdonut]

That place you linked to is in San Diego, a bit out of the way.

but it looks to be worth the trip.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

2 or 3 years, if he’s going to make it.

If he can’t be fast, he’d better be smart.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Lind is a step behind, Gadjovich is like 4 steps behind. The gap in speed is too large to overcome for Gadjovich to effectively make it to the NHL imho.

 

[F A N]

Archibald was an outlier who took until his late 20s to get where he did. And had a mean streak and hits like a truck, while Gadjovich is a big p***ycat.

I've said before the ex-Canuck he most reminds me of is PC Labrie, who did actually eventually play a few NHL games. But I think Gadjovich's skating is even worse than either Labrie or Archibald.

Archibald wasn't exactly a tough guy and willing fighter in juniors though. That was something he added at the pro level to better his chance of earning a spot. I think you're overly harsh on many players. Gadjovich was 20, was not up to speed, and dropped the gloves against bigger guys. To use an analogy, it's normal for boxers to be cautious and feel his opponent's power first. It's not being a p***ycat. It's possible that once Gadjovich is more comfortable about his abilities at the AHL level you would see a more physical game out of him.

 

[Bad Goalie]

You can basically stick a fork in him.

The best-case scenario right now is that we can get a bit of AHL bottom-6 utility out of him for the next two years before he's released in 2021. But there's a strong chance he'll be in Kalamazoo just wasting a contract slot.

I hate to say this (dreading the backlash), but LaBate, who was never good, was better than Gadjovich's best outings on his worst nights.

 

[Bad Goalie]

The upside with Gadjovich is he at least is aware that his skating is his biggest deficit and is a huge work in progress

Comets seriously need a full time skating coach or something. or the coaches that Horvat or MacEwen employed should be recommended to Gadj in the offseason.

Wasn't it obvious enough last year that he would have seriously done this in the Summer that just passed?!?!?
He should have sought out such coaching immediately on his own.

The Canucks management should have been all over it as well. Waste product Ghost Johnson should have been ordering it and imploring Benning to get on it, if through nothing more than a phone call to the kid expressing the importance of such summer work to his future with the Canucks.

He's never going to amount to anything if he can't skate in a profession where the #1 job requirement is skating.