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John Tavares- Can you do that again?

You just never know what GM Garth Snow has up his sleeve, and that's got to be distracting for a young leader coming into his own.

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Didn't like the article at all really, seems like the guy has no idea what he's talking about.
 
So we go from Katie Strang to this guy. What an incredible upgrade. :facepalm:

Maybe if he took out the little shots he takes at Snow and the Isles to build some sort of credibility. Guess not.
 
The article was poorly written, sounds like the guy started it 3 seasons ago, and just updated it to look like he just wrote it.
 
What poorly written garbage.

Poor John Tavares. Being the best player on the New York Islanders is like being the best musician in One Direction: No one really takes you seriously.

What does this even mean?!

What else is completely factually incorrect about it???

Isles aren't going to Brooklyn after next season, at this point. Isles technically didn't "sneak in" to the playoffs. Yeah, they cut it close but it's not like they needed to clinch in the last day of the season. JT technically isn't a point per game player for two straight seasons...he was merely a point short each season, but still.

He had about the same level of production as the season prior...so the lockout shortened season really had no bearing on his play whatsoever. Plus he played professionally in the Swiss league anyway!

And what will be CRRRRRAAAZZZYYY Garth Snow's next move that's going to distract JT? Huh dummy? Maybe he'll lock up another one of the young core players long term, right? Maybe he'll acquire another close friend/teammate of JT's (Moulson, Hickey, Clutterbuck) that will end up making the most out of their opportunity.

Also glad to see his opinion that last season was a "laugh riot".
 
Truth hurts sometimes. The Isles are perceived as a joke and rightfully so. It's gonna take a lot more than making the playoffs once by the skin of your teeth and losing in the first round to change that.
 
Why are people getting their panties in a bunch over what ESPN has to say about the Isles, let alone hockey on a whole? Anyone or any outlet who seriously covers the game is starting to give the Isles the credit that they are beginning to deserve.
 
Truth hurts sometimes. The Isles are perceived as a joke and rightfully so.

Based on what exactly are they perceived as a joke?

I've seen them cast as more as a team that is seen as an upcoming team, that is just starting to put things together based on the articles/comments I've seen that talks of them since last season began. Where have you seen different besides the Grant ESPN piece?
 
Truth hurts sometimes. The Isles are perceived as a joke and rightfully so. It's gonna take a lot more than making the playoffs once by the skin of your teeth and losing in the first round to change that.

you are right. No one cares we finishes 8th in the east and rightfully so. The islanders still have a ton of unproven players. Making the playoffs this year is going to.be a big challenge
 
I have a feeling the guy who wrote this is the nephew of some espn bigwig.

I just can't see them hiring this guy on merit alone if he's going to turn out these crappy, uninformed articles.
 
The lockout-shortened season seemed to be just what Tavares needed. Young players eventually get burned out by the heavy-duty drag that is the NHL season, especially when coming off the shorter seasons in junior. Last season, Tavares managed to maintain his point-a-game pace, putting the pedal down without hesitation, no doubt revitalized by having a bit of a break entering his fourth season and not having to meet full-season expectations. In some ways, it was like an OHL season all over, what with fewer games and no travel outside your time zone. As a result, Tavares had more time and success on the power play, his shooting percentage was much higher and he almost managed to get his plus/minus above sea level on the traditionally defensively submerged Islanders. And, along the way, he made the Islanders into an exciting team to watch that scared the bejeebers out of the Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round.

I love Tavares as much as anyone but there is a lot of truth in this paragraph.
 
The lockout-shortened season seemed to be just what Tavares needed. Young players eventually get burned out by the heavy-duty drag that is the NHL season, especially when coming off the shorter seasons in junior. Last season, Tavares managed to maintain his point-a-game pace, putting the pedal down without hesitation, no doubt revitalized by having a bit of a break entering his fourth season and not having to meet full-season expectations. In some ways, it was like an OHL season all over, what with fewer games and no travel outside your time zone. As a result, Tavares had more time and success on the power play, his shooting percentage was much higher and he almost managed to get his plus/minus above sea level on the traditionally defensively submerged Islanders. And, along the way, he made the Islanders into an exciting team to watch that scared the bejeebers out of the Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round.

I love Tavares as much as anyone but there is a lot of truth in this paragraph.

considering he played at the exact same ppg clip as the year before AND he played a half season in switzerland, there's really very little truth to his points about the shortened season.
 
Based on what exactly are they perceived as a joke?

Do you think the Isles are generally regarded as being a classy, top-notch, winning organization? Or are they perceived to be strange, eccentric, and low rent with a decades long history of craziness and losing?

Do I think they're trending up? Sure. Do I think they're made some strides in changing negative perception? Kinda. But, they have a long way to go to earn respect. You don't get respect by being an "upcoming" team.
 
The lockout-shortened season seemed to be just what Tavares needed. Young players eventually get burned out by the heavy-duty drag that is the NHL season, especially when coming off the shorter seasons in junior. Last season, Tavares managed to maintain his point-a-game pace, putting the pedal down without hesitation, no doubt revitalized by having a bit of a break entering his fourth season and not having to meet full-season expectations. In some ways, it was like an OHL season all over, what with fewer games and no travel outside your time zone. As a result, Tavares had more time and success on the power play, his shooting percentage was much higher and he almost managed to get his plus/minus above sea level on the traditionally defensively submerged Islanders. And, along the way, he made the Islanders into an exciting team to watch that scared the bejeebers out of the Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round.

I love Tavares as much as anyone but there is a lot of truth in this paragraph.

no truth. The condensed schedule and the pressure on JT's shoulders, carrying two of the softest wingers in hockey, having to win almost all their last 20 games just to make the playoffs is hardly "what Tavares needed". The lockout season is HARDER on a player than a full 82, simply because of the days off, time to heal.

And it was his FOURTH NHL season, junior was a lifetime ago. Don't see how that matters at all.

I thought it was Tavares' toughest year. He was outstanding for most of the season but I thought he could have done so much more with a different winger than Boyes. And that line wasn't good at all down the stretch.

Tavares hasn't approached his max upside yet. Last year was just another step in that direction.
 
Do you think the Isles are generally regarded as being a classy, top-notch, winning organization? Or are they perceived to be strange, eccentric, and low rent with a decades long history of craziness and losing?

Do I think they're trending up? Sure. Do I think they're made some strides in changing negative perception? Kinda. But, they have a long way to go to earn respect. You don't get respect by being an "upcoming" team.

So based on your opinion then is what your driving at?
 
Re-read the first line of the article:

Poor John Tavares. Being the best player on the New York Islanders is like being the best musician in One Direction: No one really takes you seriously.

Find me anyone who doesn't take John Tavares seriously.

Fans around the league are impressed with him as a player and person, the press is fair with Tavares, and the hockey establishment recognizes what he's been able to do (MVP candidate, Team Canada, etc.)

Making a statement on July 25, 2013 that John Tavares isn't taken seriously is just as dumb as that guy who left JT off that Top 25 under 25 list awhile back.. like others have said, makes anything else he says hard to accept.. he screwed up his entire article and whatever point he was trying to make in order to force a witty one-liner in the article's intro..
 
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I just love how these "sports writers" think they know exactly what Tavares is thinking or how he should think. For them, it couldn't be that JT loves Long Island and has an appreciation for what Snow is doing. That's why I love his contract extension because it went from, "Just a few more years, and JT can hightail out of that dump..." to after the extension, "Wow, that kid is seriously messed up in the head...I mean 6 years in that dump?! What an idiot!". '

And yes, we've heard plenty about the "circus", that is Islanders management. I myself, have been very critical of their past screwups. But within the last few years, it appears to have been a "circus" that players actually WANT to be a part of now...whether it's the young kids getting their opportunities to shine or the old vets (Nabby, Vis, Weight) that don't care to leave. In fact, since March or so...I've heard way more positive remarks from ACTUAL hockey analysts and writers about the team and it's direction. Then you run into stories written by obviously clueless people (in researching Paul Grant, it appears that he's not only from the hockey-challenged ESPN but also has more background in soccer...so that figures), and it's just hilarious.
 
Re-read the first line of the article:

Poor John Tavares. Being the best player on the New York Islanders is like being the best musician in One Direction: No one really takes you seriously.

Find me anyone who doesn't take John Tavares seriously.

Fans around the league are impressed with him as a player and person, the press is fair with Tavares, and the hockey establishment recognizes what he's been able to do (MVP candidate, Team Canada, etc.)

Making a statement on July 25, 2013 that John Tavares isn't taken seriously is just as dumb as that guy who left JT off that Top 25 under 25 list awhile back.. like others have said, makes anything else he says hard to accept.. he screwed up his entire article and whatever point he was trying to make in order to force a witty one-liner in the article's intro..

People don't take him seriously? Was he not a finalist for the Hart?

I just don't understand how this gets put up online. What was he trying to write? It just seemed like a collection of ideas from 2010 and he threw it up for ***** and gigs. Someone I think said the same above. What is the point he is trying to make?
 

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