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Value of: John Gibson
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Oilers have 6 goals tonight and we are currently losing the game. Yeah Gibson is an upgrade on a ton of guys
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"I have no idea what I am doing" -Pat VerBleak
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When he's motivated with a good defense in front of him I would take no more than 5 goalies over him overall.
I’m gonna say it just went up.
I have no idea what I even watched
I have no idea what I even watched
thusk
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Just for people who still think than how ducks trash played didn't affect gibson stats...
26-01 Tor 44-20 gib
27-01 mtl 40-24
29-01 ott 45-20 gib
31-01 det 28-15 gib
16-02 Cgy 43-20 gib
17-02 Edm 41-30 gib
22-02 Sj 43-29
Lv 35-24 gib
NYR 38-23 gib
Fla 42-17 gib
Dal 35-23 gib
Edm 46-32 gib
Car 43-25 gib
Fla 55-24 gib
Lak 40-21
Stl 37-17 gib
16 blowout since january 26 to end of season
16/38 42% of ducks game. During those game total they was outshot 655 to 364
Gibson played of 13 of those 16. It was 13 of 26 game played by gibson during that streche
Its is possible than when you see your team sucking that way again and again, you didn't play yourself with the same intensity, same focus because you know that will change nothing...
26-01 Tor 44-20 gib
27-01 mtl 40-24
29-01 ott 45-20 gib
31-01 det 28-15 gib
16-02 Cgy 43-20 gib
17-02 Edm 41-30 gib
22-02 Sj 43-29
Lv 35-24 gib
NYR 38-23 gib
Fla 42-17 gib
Dal 35-23 gib
Edm 46-32 gib
Car 43-25 gib
Fla 55-24 gib
Lak 40-21
Stl 37-17 gib
16 blowout since january 26 to end of season
16/38 42% of ducks game. During those game total they was outshot 655 to 364
Gibson played of 13 of those 16. It was 13 of 26 game played by gibson during that streche
Its is possible than when you see your team sucking that way again and again, you didn't play yourself with the same intensity, same focus because you know that will change nothing...
People really undervalue goalies on here. A guy like Gibson can backstop you to a cup and steal games himself. He is worth a hefty price.
Imo the Ducks should hold onto him. Having an elite goalie in this league is very valuable, and you can always build around an elite goalie.
Imo the Ducks should hold onto him. Having an elite goalie in this league is very valuable, and you can always build around an elite goalie.
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i think whoever gets Gibson… is going to forget what they gave up for him real quick. Cause they are going to pay a lot less than gibson is truly worth.
There isn’t really a trade scenario for Anaheim trading gibson they come out winning imo…. We get cap space and assets but we’re losing our star player for a lot less than we prob want to
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FrolikFan67
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How about something around Knight? He fits the age group of the rebuilding corp there (21yrs old), has one year left before becoming an RFA. Would just need to add something else to even out the salaries. Add Duclair and Montour (familiar with him already)/Gudas?
I still think there is a pretty good chance he ends up in Toronto and I hope he does because he'd be a massive MASSIVE upgrade on what is currently between the pipes for the Leafs
you want to spend 16+ million goaltending?
you want to spend 16+ million goaltending?
Gibson is worth a 1st + B+ prospect + 2nd. He could be a home run addition or a seriously bad cap dump on his new team depending how he plays.
OV Rocks
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The first part of this is so true! As a Caps fan I would love to have him on the roster, and this year is a perfect example of why. The Caps had a chance against the Panthers, but ultimately they were let down by goaltending. Not that either were horrible, but as the Caps GM said its not how many saves you make it is the timing of those saves. A goalie like Gibson makes the saves that Samsonov doesn't and that keeps the Caps in the series and ahead.
I really hope the Caps make an offer for him, I think they have a unique package to put together with the ability to send back a young goalie who more matches the timeline of the Ducks roster build. Add in the Caps 1st and another prospect/player, I think it could be a strong enough package.
Kuemper trade is probably the low end baseline of what Gibson would get
OV Rocks
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I posted this a few weeks ago on the Caps board:
I am not sure how many teams out there can/would trade for him. He has a 10 team no trade clause, and as a goalie that is really like 20ish teams or so when you think about who has goalies and who doesn't. You go through the list of teams you know are set at goalie, NYR, Tampa, Florida, Pitt, PHL(?) CAR, NYI, BOS, STL, LAK, DAL, NSH, VGK, VAN, WPG, SEA, CGY. There are 17 teams that probably won't trade for him. Add in his 10 team no trade which will probably include all the Canadian markets cause what goalie in their right mind wants that torture Toronto, Montreal, Edmonton, and Ottawa. Probably add in Arizona Chicago and Buffalo to that no trade? Anaheim probably won't trade him to SJ as well. So that leaves Washington, Colorado, Minnesota, New Jersey, Detroit, Columbus.
Colorado doesn't have a 1st this year, NJ is not giving up their 2nd overall for a goalie, Minny has Talbot under contract and seems like the want Flower back, Detroit has a pretty solid goalie prospect.
I am not sure how many teams out there can/would trade for him. He has a 10 team no trade clause, and as a goalie that is really like 20ish teams or so when you think about who has goalies and who doesn't. You go through the list of teams you know are set at goalie, NYR, Tampa, Florida, Pitt, PHL(?) CAR, NYI, BOS, STL, LAK, DAL, NSH, VGK, VAN, WPG, SEA, CGY. There are 17 teams that probably won't trade for him. Add in his 10 team no trade which will probably include all the Canadian markets cause what goalie in their right mind wants that torture Toronto, Montreal, Edmonton, and Ottawa. Probably add in Arizona Chicago and Buffalo to that no trade? Anaheim probably won't trade him to SJ as well. So that leaves Washington, Colorado, Minnesota, New Jersey, Detroit, Columbus.
Colorado doesn't have a 1st this year, NJ is not giving up their 2nd overall for a goalie, Minny has Talbot under contract and seems like the want Flower back, Detroit has a pretty solid goalie prospect.
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The hope would be that bob is somehow moved this offseason, and if not, within the next 2yrs as his NMC shifts to a 16 team-NTC
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the first post pointing out gibson doing poorly without his top 2 D. What goalie would do well in that situation? The caps have no goalie. If they had had even a middle of the pack competent goalie against florida they would have beat the panthers. Vancek and Sammy allowing wrists shot unscreened from 15-20' out lost the series for the caps (along with age but mostly goaltending). if the caps arent blowing up the core then they should be trying to get gibson.
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I think the problem is that most goalies are voodoo, totally up and down. Binnington would be a good example, and if they get hurt you’re f***ed- seems like that’s happening more and more often with the speed of the game now too.
That said, ya, there’s like 5 or so rock solid starters worth their weight in gold, and Gibson would seem to be one of ‘em. Then again, Bob got his payday after many successful years so it can disappear, but eh- that’s the risk, and with Gibson it’d seem a relatively safe one. Sabres need a tender and have the cap space, but I like our young pieces so I don’t really know what works. We’re somewhat around the same spot as the ducks, losing 2 young guys would hurt greatly. Wish the ducks would just take all the draft picks but I doubt that gets it done, they’d want a guy I don’t wanna lose.
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I could see us going the draft pick route tbh….
I’ve talked about Buffalo a bit on our forums, they have the expendable assets cap space and Gibson is from the north east…. They are also a young team with a good chance of being serious contender the next 5+ years.
We’ve talked about
16 + Portillo + 2023 2nd
Sabres get their goalie for now, and still get to pick at 9
Ducks get another mid 1st
Add Portillo to dostal clang OEE and Alexander in our goalie pool.
And add a future pick for 2023 draft we can hopefully use to trade
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These 8-6 games are entertaining as hell.
Ducks should hold onto Gibson and keep the playoffs 80s style.
Gibson faces much stiffer competition.
Ducks should hold onto Gibson and keep the playoffs 80s style.
90 percent of Storlaz wins are vs bottom feeders or non playoff teams.
Gibson faces much stiffer competition.
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I broke down the starts for someone else, but I think Stolarz only have up 3 or less to 2 teams with better record than the Ducks. So 4 or more in every other game against everyone except the 9 teams below Anaheim.
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you want to roll the dice with the dumpster fire that is Sammy and Vanny. Like I said if the caps arent going to rebuild which they are not, then they need an established goalie. Doesn't have to be gibson but no more bargain bin or unproven rookies.
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He was terrific and our best player IMO up until the ASG.
Remembering what it felt like to play with real NHL players killed his motivation when he came back to see Grant/Milano in the top 6
