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I couldn't find a JD thread so I'm starting one providing the Mods don't mind..
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I'm watching the JD interview and can't help but think that he's so the man.
Very candid and really up front.

He's such an incredible hockey mind and with the way he thinks the game,
I couldn't think of a better possible person to run this team.

He can also be aggressive when need be and I'm just wondering how long it might take until his patience starts to where thin...
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JD has a very special place in my Rangers fan experience. He made watching games so much fun. One of my biggest gripes with Micheleti, of which I have many, is he has absolutely zero sense of humor. JD as the color guy was like having your hilarious uncle on TV doing Rangers games. If something hilarious was happening on the ice JD always made sure the audience knew about it and joined him in having a few laughs. His call on the play when Patrick Roy decided to skate the puck up ice is just amazing.

 
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RangersFan said:
I miss JD in the booth. He was always so insightful on the opposing teams players and prospects. Greatest color man ever in the sport. It's no wonder he was so sought after for FO positions, his knowledge of the game is up there with the best. I just wish we could have had him earlier in our FO.
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JD also called them as he saw them -- he was not afraid to criticize a player for a miscue...and he didn't toe the company line when it came to calling out management.
 
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ROFLMAO at the comments that John Davidson is a "good hockey mind". He hired a GM that thought John Tortorella was the best coach for his team in 201Xs. Its probably hard to make a worse decision strategy and X and O wise. He was around for the worst era ever of this organization and always kept repeating the same mantra that you "could not trap in NY". You could not win in the NHL without trapping, every other team in the league realized that.

Omg.

He sounds good when talking. If everyone only went on that someone that just said what people wanted to hear could be elected president, imagine if that was the case huh! Oh wait... ;)

Please note, I am not saying that Davidson is NOT a good hockey mind. Its hard to tell, but I think there are evidence indicating that he is a bit lost, and very little evidence on the contrary.
 
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Ola said:
ROFLMAO at the comments that John Davidson is a "good hockey mind". He hired a GM that thought John Tortorella was the best coach for his team in 201Xs. Its probably hard to make a worse decision strategy and X and O wise. He was around for the worst era ever of this organization and always kept repeating the same mantra that you "could not trap in NY". You could not win in the NHL without trapping, every other team in the league realized that.

Omg.

He sounds good when talking. If everyone only went on that someone that just said what people wanted to hear could be elected president, imagine if that was the case huh! Oh wait... ;)

Please note, I am not saying that Davidson is NOT a good hockey mind. Its hard to tell, but I think there are evidence indicating that he is a bit lost, and very little evidence on the contrary.
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True. But I’d say that his job is not necessarily to be a Big Hockey Brain. But to bring in good people, encourage communication, evolution, and put the face on the operation.
 
FWIW I like John and I'm glad he's in the position he's in but that doesn't mean he's beyond critique. Thinking back to the days when he was the color TV man he was almost always insightful but there were also times I remember turning off the sound because sometimes it just seemed to me he was just shilling for the league and that's really Bettman's job. There's a bit of that even today....all JD sees are the positives. He's a bit of an evangelist. Micheletti does it too by the way and that's fine from either but there are things about NHL hockey that are f***ed up.....that need to be addressed and those things aren't always. My favorite Rangers color guy ever actually is Sal Messina. He was never nasty in any way but he always said what he had to say.
 
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Don't think there is much of an imprint he has made yet. Outside of being a face Panarin has known and knowing him well, there really isn't an impact decision yet you can say he's been in on.

This deadline ans draft will have his imprints. What types of players will they target and where do they look in the draft.
 
bobbop said:
Is the Davidson interview online anywhere and is it worth watching? I haven’t seen it available anywhere.
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I believe it was a 3-part series. Nothing earth shattering but always a worthwhile listen from
JD.

A few notes that I’ll share -
*discussed there’s only been a couple times in his career as GM when he’s gone into the locker room to address the team. Said Quinn is strong with the group.
*proud of the STL cup team. Inherited nothing,”34th out of 30 nhl teams” and built a winner with 10 players that won the cup from his reign.
*talked about being hands on with prospects - example: Tanner Glass skating with Robertson in Edmonton
*Detailed Kravtsov being “humbled” by this season - and Russia “not being what he expected”
*On the flip side, circled Chytil as a guy that did everything right in Hartford and is now here making a big impact.
 
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Ola said:
ROFLMAO at the comments that John Davidson is a "good hockey mind". He hired a GM that thought John Tortorella was the best coach for his team in 201Xs. Its probably hard to make a worse decision strategy and X and O wise. He was around for the worst era ever of this organization and always kept repeating the same mantra that you "could not trap in NY". You could not win in the NHL without trapping, every other team in the league realized that.

Omg.

He sounds good when talking. If everyone only went on that someone that just said what people wanted to hear could be elected president, imagine if that was the case huh! Oh wait... ;)

Please note, I am not saying that Davidson is NOT a good hockey mind. Its hard to tell, but I think there are evidence indicating that he is a bit lost, and very little evidence on the contrary.
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Too bad about the cheap shots and whataboutism in your post. I think I'll still go with the Hockey Hall of Famer over the hockey message board.
 
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egelband said:
True. But I’d say that his job is not necessarily to be a Big Hockey Brain. But to bring in good people, encourage communication, evolution, and put the face on the operation.
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He's here to schmooze big money not for his "hockey mind", but even if great "hockey minds" suggest he schmoozes with the talent we need, JD will get the credit for being the "hockey mind" because of Oh Baby®️ and '94!
 
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JimmyG89 said:
Don't think there is much of an imprint he has made yet. Outside of being a face Panarin has known and knowing him well, there really isn't an impact decision yet you can say he's been in on.

This deadline ans draft will have his imprints. What types of players will they target and where do they look in the draft.
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He's the guy who gets free agents and stars in trades.

He's also the guy who helps sell the suites and other big money items.

He's there for the 5 star dinner offers with the players, their agents, their wives and families, and their mistresses.

He's not involved in pretty much anything anyone is giving him credit for as far as he is a Ranger.
 
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I loved listening to JD growing up. I'll enjoy following him, and it puts an even more likable look on the franchise.

As for 'losing patience.' He came in preaching patience, and staying the course. You can see a lot of growth in our youngsters, and our elite players are playing elite hockey. It doesn't happen overnight. I think this team is playing at or above expectations right now. I don't think any realistic fan honestly came into the year expecting the playoffs. Hope is great to start the year, but in the end you have to be realistic with results.
 
eco's bones said:
FWIW I like John and I'm glad he's in the position he's in but that doesn't mean he's beyond critique. Thinking back to the days when he was the color TV man he was almost always insightful but there were also times I remember turning off the sound because sometimes it just seemed to me he was just shilling for the league and that's really Bettman's job. There's a bit of that even today....all JD sees are the positives. He's a bit of an evangelist. Micheletti does it too by the way and that's fine from either but there are things about NHL hockey that are ****ed up.....that need to be addressed and those things aren't always. My favorite Rangers color guy ever actually is Sal Messina. He was never nasty in any way but he always said what he had to say.
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Considering Bettman's strangle hold over the Board of Governors, does this really surprise you?
 
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zephyr said:
Considering Bettman's strangle hold over the Board of Governors, does this really surprise you?
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FWIW I go back to Clarence Campbell and in that respect it's always been the same---though Campbell had no clue really about how to market the game. Bettman is a hired gun for some pretty obnoxious assholes and really that's one of the reasons I lay off of Jimmy Dolan because even though he might be a son of privilege he's really not all much of an asshole when comparing him to most all of the others. He treats his players very well--stays out of the way of his hockey management staff.....and has the team doing all kinds of charity work. But back to Bettman--he's there to market the game--try to squeeze millions and billions out of the public for his clients---some of whom are pretty awful and to fend off things like the concussion lawsuit so that they don't have to pay up even a little bit to former players some of whom are suffering a lot because of a former marketing campaign in the 90's to promote the game's more violent aspects.
 
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Ola said:
ROFLMAO at the comments that John Davidson is a "good hockey mind". He hired a GM that thought John Tortorella was the best coach for his team in 201Xs. Its probably hard to make a worse decision strategy and X and O wise. He was around for the worst era ever of this organization and always kept repeating the same mantra that you "could not trap in NY". You could not win in the NHL without trapping, every other team in the league realized that.

Omg.

He sounds good when talking. If everyone only went on that someone that just said what people wanted to hear could be elected president, imagine if that was the case huh! Oh wait... ;)

Please note, I am not saying that Davidson is NOT a good hockey mind. Its hard to tell, but I think there are evidence indicating that he is a bit lost, and very little evidence on the contrary.
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Sod off, Torts is the best. Wish he was still here.*

*This is mostly based on that I really, really like the guy.
 
Ola said:
ROFLMAO at the comments that John Davidson is a "good hockey mind". He hired a GM that thought John Tortorella was the best coach for his team in 201Xs. Its probably hard to make a worse decision strategy and X and O wise. He was around for the worst era ever of this organization and always kept repeating the same mantra that you "could not trap in NY". You could not win in the NHL without trapping, every other team in the league realized that.

Omg.

He sounds good when talking. If everyone only went on that someone that just said what people wanted to hear could be elected president, imagine if that was the case huh! Oh wait... ;)

Please note, I am not saying that Davidson is NOT a good hockey mind. Its hard to tell, but I think there are evidence indicating that he is a bit lost, and very little evidence on the contrary.
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The GM he hired also traded panarin for saad, drafted very good guys even in the later rounds (texier) and the best thing GM Kekalainen did was that he didn’t draft Pulju even tho he had a chance to do so.
So ROFLMAO!!!!
 
AlaBlueShirt said:
The GM he hired also traded panarin for saad, drafted very good guys even in the later rounds (texier) and the best thing GM Kekalainen did was that he didn’t draft Pulju even tho he had a chance to do so.
So ROFLMAO!!!!
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A coach hire is a big decision that the president can weigh in on. It’s the GMs ultimate decision, of course, but the president at least has an informal veto of sorts if he REALLY think it’s the wrong path.

I am also impressed with Kek’s work in other areas.
 
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