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Joe Pavelski Retires

So, from the 2003 draft class, we've seen in this off-season, Carter, Parise, Pavelski call it a career.

Who are we down to now? MAF, Burns, Suter, Perry, Reaves?
 
It's unfortunate, given the regular season that he had, that his final playoff run was such a wet fart. In a reasonable universe he's in the HoF the moment he's eligible, but who knows in this one?
 
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It's unfortunate, given the regular season that he had, that his final playoff run was such a wet fart. In a reasonable universe he's in the HoF the moment he's eligible, but who knows in this one?
Alex Mogilny is not in the HHOF, which pretty much cements it as a cliquey farce (like most things affiliated with hockey and the NHL).
 
Based on what? He had a solid career, but there's hundreds of players with this exact career not in the hall
Joe Pavelski is #60 in career NHL games played, #55 in goals, and #71 in points.

This is obviously a very superficial look - in no way am I attempting to account for defensemen, goalies, defense played by forwards, differing season lengths or scoring levels in different seasons. Those are all huge caveats.

However, I think "hundreds of players with this exact career" is, well, more than exaggerating.
 
Neat little "games played" quirk that I never noticed before......963 games with the Sharks, 369 games with Dallas?

How perfect is that. :laugh:
Actually not a fan of this graphic the NHL used because you can't tell the story of Pavelski without his playoff performances, which mean a hell of a lot more than regular season games.

Real totals: 1,097 as a Shark, 436 as a Star
 
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Joe Pavelski is #60 in career NHL games played, #55 in goals, and #71 in points.

This is obviously a very superficial look - in no way am I attempting to account for defensemen, goalies, defense played by forwards, differing season lengths or scoring levels in different seasons. Those are all huge caveats.

However, I think "hundreds of players with this exact career" is, well, more than exaggerating.
Is it? He has a 2nd team AS and not a single other thing on his resume. Dany Heatley, 192 in points has more. Kevin Stevens 243rd in scoring has more. There's nothing except compiling stats to name here and there's players with less of both who had more impact.
 
The top point scorer of one of the best draft ever is a 7th rounder born in WI. Incredible.

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Is it? He has a 2nd team AS and not a single other thing on his resume. Dany Heatley, 192 in points has more. Kevin Stevens 243rd in scoring has more. There's nothing except compiling stats to name here and there's players with less of both who had more impact.
Are you assuming that awards recognition is an accurate summation of any player's actual impact? Because I wouldn't trust awards, in any sport, to tell me the sky was blue.
 
Are you assuming that awards recognition is an accurate summation of any player's actual impact? Because I wouldn't trust awards, in any sport, to tell me the sky was blue.
Do I agree with every award ever? No. I do think however that if someone was missed here and there at some point it would be at least talked about. he's never been talked about outside of "he's really good at 39". At some point you have to look at the law of averages and realize that he was below that level for all but one season, and even at that, a lesser position. i like the guy, and the player, but there's lots like him every year of every decade hockey has existed. Good, but not great players
 
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