Agreed. I also think JP could PK if needed. I'm pretty sure I heard, around his draft year, that he was good defensively as well
Player Discussion Jesse Puljujarvi Part 11: Solid Return Season Completed, How Does Next Season Go For the Big Finn?
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Agreed. I also think JP could PK if needed. I'm pretty sure I heard, around his draft year, that he was good defensively as well
Well, comparing him to Suzuki is quite stupid because their situations are so different. What should be talked about is the suggestion that the team should somehow lower his point-totals by giving him limited ice-time and what not. While I still believe that this sort of coaching is very rare in pro leagues, Jesse's making it quite difficult to keep him off the scoreboard even if they really wanted to. He finds those soft areas better than last year, maybe because he thinks of himself as a scorer now (yet he still works like a madman).
It looks like he'll split PP1-time with Hyman for now.
It looks like he'll split PP1-time with Hyman for now.
I come more from Pulju's camp so you can take it as such. Like I said all the numbers aren't there yet and terrific defensive game doesn't earn you as big contracts. I believe he'd be worth the contract you said but I believe less will be enough and probably justified in this case.
It's also hard to compare the numbers as Suzuki got 3 minutes more TOI and over twice as much PP time, but Pulju's goals/60 was clearly better and:
ESP/60: Pulju 1.637, Suzuki 1.852
ESG/60: Pulju 1.013, Suzuki 0.641
I guess it depends on what one values, but Pulju's defensive game is even elite in the NHL level and his goal scoring is pretty good (better than Suzuki's last year). Suzuki certainly has his strengths too.
Pulju's taking huge strides so we'll have to wait and see what he does this season and how he uses his increasing PP usage. So far his PP stats have been great for the small ice time so hopefully he can keep doing well there.
While he was struggling to get his offense going his defensive game was solid in the NHL and last year his defensive analytics were even among the best of the NHL. You're right, all the scouting reprts talked about his defensive game prior to the draft.
I checked one out of curiosity and the Pulju we are seeing now is finally getting close to what the reports said. They stated a lot of strengths (including the defensive side) and said physicality and shot accuracy were where he could do better. Just as they were. Here's a few quotes in case someone is interested (thehockeywriters.com, written just before the draft):
- It’s not often that players of this caliber come along, let alone three players in one draft.
- A closer look shows that Puljujarvi can make a case for the first overall pick.
- His awareness and hockey IQ really stand out as major strengths.
- He uses his skating to create gaps and uses his élite passing to set up open teammates.
- Puljujarvi is a generational talent that will eventually dominate at the NHL level. When you are talked about along the same lines as Teemu Selanne, then you see why he is one of the big three.
- We view him as an elite power forward with star potential, and quite possibly the best Finnish prospect in almost 30 years. (Steve Kournianos)
- His smarts and skills are undoubtedly already world class, but he needs to learn to use his size more as an advantage. Puljujärvi is a very complete player with a great understanding of the defensive side of the game too. (Hockey prospectus)
- Puljujärvi is a big winger who combines size, skating and skill. A strong skater who can blast past the opposition in full speed. Able to use his size, reach and stickhandling skills to retain the puck in speed. A smart player at both ends of the ice, both on and off the puck. Great work ethic and positive attitude. (Elite Prospects)
- Puljujarvi projects as a top-line winger who can eventually dominate games. He does so many things well on both ends of the ice. Even if he has an off night on offense, he can make up for that was with defensive play. He’s one of the most intriguing prospects of the last 10 years. It’s just a matter of time before he makes a major impact on the NHL.
https://thehockeywriters.com/jesse-puljujarvi-the-next-ones-2016-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/
Sign this guy now for 8 years before he pops 30 this year, thanks.
You have no idea what you're talking about, but go ahead and invent whatever narrative you want to make yourself feel superior to the "fanboys."
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This guy thinks McDavid's contract has bonus' in it. Hes out of touch with reality.
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JP was drafted to be a top line elite forward and when his max potential is reached would be an extremely higher ceiling than what Suzuki can imagine. If Suzuki was so good he would have gone first overall and touted as the next Mackinnon.
I predict you will disappear soon with nothing of substance to add regarding this thread's topic which is about a young Finnish player on the oilers.
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If Pulju’s play keeps up (or gets even better, which I think it will,) any long term extension will be starting with a high 5’s or even a 6 (if going 8 years).
I’ve already contributed substance to this thread.
However, only posts I see from you contain drivel about how smart you perceive yourself to be (incorrectly) in comparison to others here.
I think it starts with a 5 but they'll be looking at 3 to 5 years, which is the smart thing for Pulju's camp to do in my opinion.
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What if Jesse manages 65-70 points this year? How much does he get on an 8 year deal then? He's good defensively, he's a big body who gets in on the forecheck and retrieves pucks, and if he starts producing....I think you're looking at an extension with an AAV that's over $7M.
Hopefully Jesse continues to be a solid contributor but doesn't break out too much offensively this year, signs a long term deal and then breaks out offensively next year. If he can continue to play well and puts up a 25G-20A season this year and the Oilers can get him locked up long term on a $5-5.5M AAV deal that would be ideal. Unfortunately from a cap point of view I think Jesse will have a better year than that and the Oilers are going to have a higher AAV to contend with.
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I don't see him going pointless in many games. A minimum of 50 points should be expected. Now, what is that worth in the long run? He has a lot of things going for him and he won't stop anytime soon.
Extending in the near future would be the smart choice.
Extending in the near future would be the smart choice.
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I wouldn’t worry too much about the money. He doesn’t seem like the greedy type. Considering the route he has taken, I think what’s most important to him is having fun, getting the coaches trust and feeling at home in Edmonton. If all that clicks he’ll sign a team friendly deal.
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Never mind a contract, just build a shrine for the kind bison king already: FEATURE: Finnish Friends
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