Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - agreed to 8 x 8.25 aav

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

We have numerous deletions and more in here. We know tension and emotions are high.
But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

If not we will be left with no choice other than adding thread bans.

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[Clode]

I mean at this point you gotta believe there’s nothing new left for us to cover here, right?

One of you stats nerds peel yourselves away from your transition lenses and dress shirts buttoned to the top and prove this with data cause I gotta tell you the dead horse passes the eye test

This entire thread is like reading the same page over and over again

 

[KillerMillerTime]

I still haven’t caught up in this thread for many days. But your posts are insufferable. If you think swayman is anywhere close to Vas you should seriously get help.

You have no idea what you are talking of about. I already posted the results of Swayman and Vasi who each have played against Toronto and Florida in either the 2023 or 2024 PO. Try aren't remotely close with Swayman performing significantly better.

Post injury Vasi isn't the same goalie.

 

[Horton Hears A Woo]

You have no idea what you are talking of about. I already posted the results of Swayman and Vasi who each have played against Toronto and Florida in either the 2023 or 2024 PO. Try aren't remotely close with Swayman performing significantly better.

Post injury Vasi isn't the same goalie.

Yea buddy you have no clue what you’re talking about. No person with a Brain would take swayman over the guy who has been the best goalie in hockey over the last 6-8 kindly be quiet. Put vasi on this bruins defense and system and how do you think it would go? Vasi was coming off a bad injury last season and still started more games than swayman ever has. He also played on a terrible Tampa defense. Also pretty subject you’re taking the last two post Seasons and not his whole entire body of work: that’s copium at its finest. Acting like vasi is on the decline and isn’t going to have a a huge Season. But thanks for stopping by. Imagine using two playoff rounds against a guy who has been the best goalie in hockey for a long period of time. GTFO

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Yea buddy you have no clue what you’re talking about. No person with a Brain would take swayman over the guy who has been the best goalie in hockey over the last 6-8 kindly be quiet. Put vasi on this bruins defense and system and how do you think it would go? Vasi was coming off a bad injury last season and still started more games than swayman ever has. He also played on a terrible Tampa defense. Also pretty subject you’re taking the last two post Seasons and not his whole entire body of work: that’s copium at its finest. Acting like vasi is on the decline and isn’t going to have a a huge Season. But thanks for stopping by. Imagine using two playoff rounds against a guy who has been the best goalie in hockey for a long period of time. GTFO

He isn't that Vasi anymore, what part don't you get?

 

[Horton Hears A Woo]

He isn't that Vasi anymore, what part don't you get?

What part of just because you said something doesn’t make it true my guy.. again I know far more about Tampa and there team than you do. You’re also interrupting me catching up on this thread. Tampa went out and revamped there d core and have a healthy vas heading into this season. You used one playoff run for swayman to justify your argument. That is truly ridiculous. Swayman has nothing on vas and no warped small sample size you’re trying to use will make swayman better. Like do you really want me to post vas stats over the last seven plus seasons? Because it’s embarrassing even trying to compare swayman to him. Also insulting.

 

[CheerstoBeers]

I just watched the Swayman episode and I find it funny when he was sitting in the hotel talking about how they don't dwell on the past and his mindset is to live in the present. Sure seem likes he's taking a different approach when it comes to his contract and his hard feelings about arbitration

 

[Gordoff]

Yeah whatever. None of those guys are lock up at any cost but guessing you stare at that 8x10 glossy of Donnie too much?

Two of your three core guys locked up for a long time. Get the third in

Sorry but he isn't a core guy yet. Maybe never will be. Gotta pay your dues like everyone else, and paying those dues are easy to pay at $8 million a year (which isn't enough for him or Gross).

 

[Mathews28]

Swayman has a winning record against Carolina and Toronto and a losing record against Florida (who only Vegas has beaten Florida last two years). His goals against versus Carolina were 2,2,4,2,3 and Toronto 1,3,2,1,2,2,1 (OT). Against Florida last year he gave up 1, 4, 5, 3,1,2 goals. Certainly can be said good enough to force a G7. So in 3 series where he played minimum 5 games of the series he has given up 1 goal FIVE TIMES, 2 goals SEVEN TIMES.

Vasi last two years gave up 3,7,4 (OT),5 (OT),2,2 (OT) and against FLA 3,3,4,3,4 (OT).

So Vasi gave up 1 goal ZERO TIMES. 2 goals 2 TWO TIMES.

Pretty significant difference in favor of Swayman. Just taking Carolina and Florida Swayman has given up 1 goal TWO TIMES and 2 GOALS 4 TIMES.

So Swayman outperformed the great Vasi significantly.

People want to question Swayman as "The Man" all year? They really want to go with Korpisalo all year as "The Man"?

They don’t want to. They’re willing to if it means not overpaying.

 

[GordonHowe]

As a Swayman fan from the beginning, if they don't get it done within the next week, trade his immature ass.

Poisonous Lewis Gross has been the driver in this, Jeremy the sorry caboose.

It is somehow incumbent upon the Bruins, who are not blameless in the circumstance, to "Repair the relationship"?

Please.

*F*ck you.*

The relationship is all but over.

The Bruins may not get fair value.

If Jeremy eventually signs after much absurd drama and acrimony, at that point no one on the club will believe Swayman cares as much for his teammates as he does for himself.

Nor will many fans.

That's called a very talented, very driven young man nonetheless exhibiting childish, foolish behavior.

That's called irreparable.

That's called goodbye,






PS If they choose to trade Swayman, the Bruins must not be vindictive in doing so, i.e. Anaheim, Utah, San Jose.

Players across the league will be watching, and how the Bruins handle the situation will not go unnoticed by potential free agents and trade targets.

God help us all, everyone.

Pick up at 25: 00,

 

[PB37]

Is he asked about it or is it open mic night?

There's ways he can answer if questioned about it to make it sound like he's moving on and not in a perpetual state of pouting.

" yeah, it wasn't easy but I've put it behind me and 100 percent focused on what's ahead for the team "

Simple, even if it grinds his gears on the inside and using as personal motivation. Sometimes it's best to keep shit to yourself and let your actions do all the talking.

 

[PB37]

I just explained why I think those terms have very different connotations, so no need to addresses that again.

But am I crazy or has he only brought up arbitration maybe four times total? Genuinely asking, because I can remember three for sure but have a vague memory of a fourth, yet I am very cognizant I might have missed some or simple don't remember others.

Four is still kind of a lot considering this is rarely a thing players talk about. (Though that may be because most teams do everything they can to avoid taking good players to arbitration so there are fewer opportunities to upset them.) I just don't care because it clearly motivated him to play well on the ice, which I do care about.

I don't fault anyone for being annoyed by it, I honestly don't. But there are a lot of people in here who are way way way more than "annoyed." There's real vitriol, some of which I find unhinged.

By my count, 5 but I didn't really look too hard into it - just going mostly by memory.

- right after it happened and a deal was struck

- there was a fluto article around the time the season started with some new Swayman quotes

- an interview when he was asked how it felt to be named for the all star game

- the Amazon series

- the podcast " it's a business " interview

To his credit, he also talked about how he wants to keep being a Boston Bruins in some of the interviews and I think he was sincere. I just think he and his team thought the Bruins would be easier to break.

 

[Smitty93]

Genuine question for people: if it's not negatively impacting his game (and it clearly hasn't), why do you care what Swayman says? You know that you don't need to read/listen to everything an athlete says that annoys you, right?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. He was clearly the best the player on the team in the playoffs and the reason they were able to beat Toronto and get to a Game 6 against Florida when they were clearly outmatched. He's probably the 3rd best player on the team right now behind Pastrnak and McAvoy.

Is he asking for too much? Maybe, but they NEED him, and he and his agent know that. This team is going nowhere with Korpisalo as the starter.

 

[Gordoff]

My Italian wife is sleeping right now and I can hear her dreaming about something I did 15 years ago.

That's why my Italian wife is my Ex wife. Life has been otherwise very peaceful without the daily challenging arguments and complaints.

 

[bobbyorr04]

I voted for a long term deal

Sporstcaster John Buccigross was on 'Bruins Rinkside' yesterday with Evan Marinofski, and thinks the Bruins and Swayman are very close, and they'll sign him to a new contract before Tuesday's game.

I hope he's right, because I'd like to see Swayman as the Bruins starting goalie for many years (despite all the hate from the fans).

Great goalies don't grow on trees, and I think Swayman is gonna be a great NHL goalie.

 

[JAD]

PS If they choose to trade Swayman, the Bruins must not be vindictive in doing so, i.e. Anaheim, Utah, San Jose.

Players across the league will be watching, and how the Bruins handle the situation will not go unnoticed by potential free agents and trade targets.

first:
i beleive it would not be vindictive in sending him to Anaheim, Utah, San Jose ... because they would have to find a team with cap space willing to take on the contract demand Swayman is asking. That aspect limits very much whom Boston could work a deal with. Not many teams could fit Swayman's cap hit.

Secondly: Players across the league may be watching out of curiosity. Probably more perplexed that Swayman's not already taken the 7.8 or 8 mil a year. FAs won't care because if Boston doesn't pay their asking price they can move on and negotiate with another team. Swayman is a RFA limited in his options. Trade tragets should not have a problem coming to Boston, because Boston's offer to Swayman was/is more than fair. If anything I think players (silently) are amazed Swayman hasn't signed the contact.
Most are probably wishing/hoping their teams offers them such a generous increase in pay when their contracts come due.

 

[analyser]

Genuine question for people: if it's not negatively impacting his game (and it clearly hasn't), why do you care what Swayman says? You know that you don't need to read/listen to everything an athlete says that annoys you, right?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. He was clearly the best the player on the team in the playoffs and the reason they were able to beat Toronto and get to a Game 6 against Florida when they were clearly outmatched. He's probably the 3rd best player on the team right now behind Pastrnak and McAvoy.

Is he asking for too much? Maybe, but they NEED him, and he and his agent know that. This team is going nowhere with Korpisalo as the starter.

Sure you need him but not for the value he places upon himself. You cannot just give him a blank check and say whatever you think we will cover.

Both sides will have to give as it is not a one way street.

 

[Beesfan]

Zegras could probably be had from Anaheim, but idk how high impact he'd be.

Huberdeau is north of 30 but could have impact playing with Pasta. Definitely available.

Other than that I don't know too many top 6 guys that are potentially available this early in the year.

Troy Terry and a first round pick (could be 2026) from Anaheim would do it for me. Terry is a RW, 27, and signed long term at $7m cap hit.

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Vejmelka or Ingram, Schmaltz, first in '25 and one of the three 2nds in '26.

 

[DKH]

I mean at this point you gotta believe there’s nothing new left for us to cover here, right?

One of you stats nerds peel yourselves away from your transition lenses and dress shirts buttoned to the top and prove this with data cause I gotta tell you the dead horse passes the eye test

This is just the opening act

We got the plot, identified a few villains, Lonnie gave us his interpretation of a hissy fit, Swayman has helped us understand Gen Z better, we know 64 M is on the table, we learned Sway post hockey career and sing some songs

Act 2 comes today, tomorrow,or Tuesday, and can only go one of two ways

Signed ~ how long, how much, is he happy, sad, salty, going all Keyser Soze on us and the league, or does he stay the smiling happy to be here kid. Be interesting how he comes out of this.

Unsigned ~ the nerds break out the spread sheets and explain the ramifications, and we speculate on trades and if it’s better to wait to next off season ~ Sway goes to Russia to stay sharp where he plays for Moscow Dynamo and takes classes at Lomonosov Moscow State University.

 

[Blowfish]

great find. So Monday at 4:30 he gets signed.


It's all about your difference makers. What are your feelings about paying a backup goalie 12mil over the next 4 years?

Right now the bruins could use another difference maker. That is a scoring right winger. Perhaps the bruins can find 2 for 9.5 million.

 

[Shroud of Orrin]

Be interesting how he comes out of this.

With any luck as an adult man.

 

[Blowfish]

Mitch Marner.

Mitch Marner scores game 7 goal against oilers to hoist the cup for the bruins.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

This is just the opening act

We got the plot, identified a few villains, Lonnie gave us his interpretation of a hissy fit, Swayman has helped us understand Gen Z better, we know 64 M is on the table, we learned Sway post hockey career and sing some songs

Act 2 comes today, tomorrow,or Tuesday, and can only go one of two ways

Signed ~ how long, how much, is he happy, sad, salty, going all Keyser Soze on us and the league, or does he stay the smiling happy to be here kid. Be interesting how he comes out of this.

Unsigned ~ the nerds break out the spread sheets and explain the ramifications, and we speculate on trades and if it’s better to wait to next off season ~ Sway goes to Russia to stay sharp where he plays for Moscow Dynamo and takes classes at Lomonosov Moscow State University.

Entertaining take

 

[Blowfish]

This entire thread is like reading the same page over and over again

Parallel worlds. We have died and fortunate to continue this thread in an other world.

 

[Mad-Marcus]

In the Multiverse, there may be a timeline where the Bruins that actually wins a Cup w/Swayman in net.
The Time Variance Authority would know which one, so we all can move to it.