Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman: VII - agreed to 8 x 8.25 aav

[smithformeragent]

One could make the argument that we're beating a dead horse here.

So be it. Discuss, if you so choose. We'll keep all the Swayman talk contained to this thread.

If you have nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation, move along.

We will not have this devolve into thread hijacking and flaming of other posters.

@Gee Wally

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But you folks must simply stop taking personal shots at each. Stay to topic.

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[SwayHeyKid]

yep

Not really the Bruins started it with Keefe and the 10 mil.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Hopefully Team Sway reads this place. Real world he has very little support.

Never thought I’d hear so much pro Sweeney especially on the radio

Dan on Team Felger now.

That should make you question things.

 

[DKH]

Dan on Team Felger now.

That should make you question things.

I haven’t been listening to Felger today - was going by 10-2 shows in and out of car

Most of my friends are 40-60 year old white guys, who drink bourbon, smoke cigars, own guns, golf weekly and think Swayman is soft,

However, hopefully they don’t represent the majority lol

 

[SwayHeyKid]

I've never seen the board more pro management. I don't know how to take that since I think the rest of the population interested in this type of thing seem more evenly dividided.

Yeah if you look at the timeline of events the Bruins fired first with the false 10 mil dollar ask. Gross responded on that podcast. Then you had the McAvoy money thing. Seems like things were stuck at 7.5-7.8 vs 9.5 for a bit....Then Neely's bollox (which is applauded here for some reason) and then the "high 8's low 9's" from Swayman apparently. There are clearly leaks on both sides yet Swayman is the one taking the brunt of it for an interview he did and then today for a tv show done months ago.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Bruins rarely have players of that pay scale which makes the Swayman thing odd.

but many are trying to say he's a generational goalie with zero resume or evidence besides a good week vs Toronto

 

[SwayHeyKid]

but many are trying to say he's a generational goalie with zero resume or evidence besides a good week vs Toronto

that's fair. I see the body of work thus far and don't even think he's begun to scratch the surface. he just has "it" IMO.

 

[Dr Quincy]

but many are trying to say he's a generational goalie with zero resume or evidence besides a good week vs Toronto

They should trade him and go with Korpi for the year. Goalie Bob can make him just as good as Swayman at 1/3 the price. Do it Donnie!

 

[KrejciMVP]

that's fair. I see the body of work thus far and don't even think he's begun to scratch the surface. he just has "it" IMO.

Vasi went to 3 cup finals in a row, there a huge gap there bt that and Sway. When paying 64 million you better be quite sure

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

When Swayman wins the cup with another team, does he bring it back to Massachusetts like Cassidy?

 

[Scotto74]

but many are trying to say he's a generational goalie with zero resume or evidence besides a good week vs Toronto

but the leafs are a legit win. its not like a Zamboni driver can just jump in and play goalie and win against......oh wait never mind.

 

[KrejciMVP]

They should trade him and go with Korpi for the year. Goalie Bob can make him just as good as Swayman at 1/3 the price. Do it Donnie!

they'll have start looking for the next franchise goalie, Bruins have done well in that search over the past 15 years

 

[BMC]

A decision not made in a vacuum.

Of course not.

Do you think the Bruins' offer was too low so they opted for arbitration? First, we don't know what the Bruins' offer was. Second, as an agent Gross should know that most of the time arbitrators make their awards by splitting down the middle, ensuring that neither the team nor the player gets everything they want. Did he really think he could hit the jackpot for his client by going to arbitration??? I'd love to know what he told Swayman to get him to agree to it especially in light of Swayman's later comments on the process.

 

[DKH]

that's fair. I see the body of work thus far and don't even think he's begun to scratch the surface. he just has "it" IMO.

That Swayman was pissed and made a list and 1. Not trustworthy in playoffs. Then went out there and was outstanding supports your view to me

I hope he goes all Tim Thomas 2010-11

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Vasi went to 3 cup finals in a row, there a huge gap there bt that and Sway. When paying 64 million you better be quite sure

I mean they would have traded him instead of Ullmark if they didn’t feel he was big time imo

 

[Gee Wally]

Or they don’t want to pay multiple picks and mortgage the future on a goalie

That and many dont have their own beginning picks, already have a goalie and widely overlooked if over 5 years a huge AAV cap hit.m

 

[Pia8988]

Of course not.

Do you think the Bruins' offer was too low so they opted for arbitration? First, we don't know what the Bruins' offer was. Second, as an agent Gross should know that most of the time arbitrators make their awards by splitting down the middle, ensuring that neither the team nor the player gets everything they want. Did he really think he could hit the jackpot for his client by going to arbitration??? I'd love to know what he told Swayman to get him to agree to it especially in light of Swayman's later comments on the process.

100%, based on their history and the numbers that have been made public. Don Sweeney should know being antagonistic with a core member and future piece should be seen as unwise.

 

[PaulD]

Absolutely and it would go over here like hot cakes. All he has to say is "They didn't accept our 'offer', so that's no longer on the table." You are telling me that wouldn't be applauded by fans (based on the reactions of people here)?


If it was me, I'd sign my young franchise goalie and try to get out of the 2nd round of the playoffs.

That's just me though.

They tried that the last two years .....didn't happen.
23....Lost game 7 and out.
24....Lost game 6 game and out.

Swaymans good , but this ain't 2020 Vasilevskiy were talking about here.

 

[NDiesel]

I mean they would have traded him instead of Ullmark if they didn’t feel he was big time imo

That's the thing that bothers me from the Bruins side. You obviously believed in him enough to trade a solid goalie option, so why not commit and just pay him. Maybe Sway truly is asking for the moon and not budging, or does management really think 8 mil vs 8.5 mil is worth pissing him off?

 

[Sheppy]

You're essentially paying a goalie $8M+ after having a great playoff round.

He's never been "the guy" other than a playoff series.

I thought he had a good go in the post season, but man, 8 million dollars and he's not taking it? That's a bit silly to me, I'm sorry. Reality has to set in at some point.

 

[ON3M4N]

Vasi went to 3 cup finals in a row, there a huge gap there bt that and Sway. When paying 64 million you better be quite sure

Vasi signed his 8yr/$9.5 million deal July 2019....he had yet to make a SCF and had only backstopped TBL past the first round one time.

 

[Dr Quincy]

they'll have start looking for the next franchise goalie, Bruins have done well in that search over the past 15 years

I wonder what they'd pay a franchise goalie.

 

[Hookslide]

Not a single offer sheet yet. Other GMs probably not buying what swayman and his agent are selling either and see the drama this player brings

Well, there was thoughts that PA might be behind this, just maybe the league is making a statement of their own.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I wonder what they'd pay a franchise goalie.

well 60 plus million it seems. Lets not pretend Sway has good intentions here, this seems like revenge

 

[Gee Wally]

Well, there was thoughts that PA might be behind this, just maybe the league is making a statement of their own.

I dont know if the PA is behind this but knowing Marty Walsh Im sure has his nickel out of the quarter.

 

[GordonHowe]

Amazon Docuseries Explains Start of Swayman’s Beef with Bruins

TSN’s Pierre LeBrun is reporting that the Boston Bruins and goaltender Jeremy Swayman are still talking and the hope is that both sides can come to an agreement and get him back on a long-term deal.

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