Walkenthewalk
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You have 3 kids, they are very lucky to have such a marshmallow dad who gives them whatever they wantI'm not suggesting he trumps the team at all. I'm saying the fans here who think a player should take a team friendly deal just to stay in Boston are grossly misrepresenting the importance of a guy not from that area playing for their team. It's delusional to think they have any real ties to the area in most cases.
Now, specific to Swayman, he definitely has benefitted from playing on some very good defensive teams here, but he's also been a big reason why those teams looked so solid defensively. Mainly because under Monty's system, they give up way more odd man rushes the other way with the d constantly jumping up into the offensive zone play. So the sheer frequency with which that happens requires a good goalie. I'm not so sure it will look the same with Korpisalo and Bussi back there over Sway over the course of 82 games. In fact, I'd bet it looks significantly worse. Which makes the haggling over every last dime a little pointless. He's by far their best goalie. Stop playing games and get the guy signed already.
I guess it all depends on whether you think any of that collective is worth signing. TBH, bottom of the roster spots should be filled on the cheap and with internal options instead of paying premiums in free agency or trade for those slots, imo.
None of those players is what I’d consider a must have. They’re all complimentary depth types. Overpaying those guys but nickel and diming your starting goalie is really really f***ing stupid.
See Dan, you’re conflating business with pleasure. How I treat my kids is irrelevant to how I conduct business. If the Bruins are using your suggested dynamic as the basis of their relationship with a player, that’s a huge red flag.You have 3 kids, they are very lucky to have such a marshmallow dad who gives them whatever they want
I hope they appreciate you unlike our buddy you know who
Which fourth line “stiff” is overpaid?See Dan, you’re conflating business with pleasure. How I treat my kids is irrelevant to how I conduct business. If the Bruins are using your suggested dynamic as the basis of their relationship with a player, that’s a huge red flag.
Swayman has proven over the last 4 years that he’s a top 5 goalie. That’s a great problem to have if you’re a team. The Bruins need to stop trying to save a buck with top of the roster types while spending like a drunken sailor in a strip joint on bottom of the roster types. It’s not Sways job to make up for Sweeney overpaying 4th line stiffs.
No would have acquired Colin Miller for the 3rd or the 4th he went for and would not have traded Ullmark for that package. 26th ov while taking on a terrible contract is not worth dumping my goalie
I know you’re just being funny with this but the dynamic here where they actually think a player from another state should give a f*** about whether they play for the Bruins or another one of the teams in the league is so silly. If I’m a player and my goal from when I was a kid was to play in the NHL, it really wouldn’t matter which team it was. And in Swayman’s case, after the team dragging him through the coals in arbitration last year and then lowballing him this year, I'd openly welcome a move. He’s far more important to their success than they are to his at this point.
Bottom roster heavy with 4th line and 3rd pairing types and not enough actual skill players to fill out the top 6, which is why they end up always having to slot guys up.
Wait, wait, wait! Jesus Christ on a bicycle @LSCII for the last time, Boston didn't take Swayman to arbitration. Gross & Swayman opted for arbitration. And once there the Bruins laid out their case & Gross and Swayman laid out theirs. WTH was Sweeney supposed to do? Go easy on Swayman to avoid hurting his widdle fweeings?? It's obvious now that Gross didn't prepare Swayman for the process & it came as a shock to his client.
Question: do we know for a fact that Boston "lowballed" him on this new deal? And is that "lowball" figure really "lowball" or simply based on Swayman's present statistics as opposed to what statistics he might compile in the future??? Again,
See Dan, you’re conflating business with pleasure. How I treat my kids is irrelevant to how I conduct business. If the Bruins are using your suggested dynamic as the basis of their relationship with a player, that’s a huge red flag.
Swayman has proven over the last 4 years that he’s a top 5 goalie. That’s a great problem to have if you’re a team. The Bruins need to stop trying to save a buck with top of the roster types while spending like a drunken sailor in a strip joint on bottom of the roster types. It’s not Sways job to make up for Sweeney overpaying 4th line stiffs.
I’ll ask again - what other RFAs have they played hardball with?Swayman's only option was arbitration or to take a lesser offer. This means Don and the Bruins played a part in this. Even if Swayman elected for it, most teams work to avoid arbitration and sign a deal before then. Especially when it involves one of your best players and a key pieces of the future. The Bruins are also complicit in this. The Bruins know arbitration is relationship damaging, why didn't they work out a deal before hand?
Based on how Bruins handle RFAs in general. Yes I'd say this is true.
I would give you a LIKE ! but I am still in bad boy status.Lots of posters (and media types) have been begging for the Bruins to get more physical, especially on the back end. Zadorov and Peeke do just that. Bruins don't really have any internal options on defense after Lohrei.
I don't really think they are nickel and diming Swayman.
So much presupposition there.
1)That they had to trade Ullmark
2) That OTT was the ONLY team they could trade him to.
3) That they had to give in to OTT's demands. Sweeney is ok negotiating and holding the line on Swayman but apparently caved wasily to OTT.
Also "Zadorov filled a need" is hysterical... Who fills a bigger need Zadorov or Swayman?
Finally your contention that signing one has nothing to do with signing another may be correct. But if that's true, that one large signing doesn't affect future signings is true, then people should stop saying that we shouldn't sign Sway to 8m because that means they can't sign others in the future. Either that argument works for Zad's signing too, or it doesn't work for Swayman.
I would give you a LIKE ! but I am still in bad boy status.
63-37-46-33 and many more have all taken team friendly deals to keep the team competitive Mr Jeremy has to do the same
I’m a card carrying member of Sway NationSee Dan, you’re conflating business with pleasure. How I treat my kids is irrelevant to how I conduct business. If the Bruins are using your suggested dynamic as the basis of their relationship with a player, that’s a huge red flag.
Swayman has proven over the last 4 years that he’s a top 5 goalie. That’s a great problem to have if you’re a team. The Bruins need to stop trying to save a buck with top of the roster types while spending like a drunken sailor in a strip joint on bottom of the roster types. It’s not Sways job to make up for Sweeney overpaying 4th line stiffs.
Nicholson or Leto?I'm going to become the Joker.
Nicholson or Leto?
(I recently rewatched BTAS start to finish, so my recency bias is for Hamill)
It'll be interesting to see how he does, and how they do as a team.On a completely unrelated note, I notice that Ullmark saved 28 of 29 shots in 30 minutes and 20 seconds last night for Ottawa.
I'm dressing my kid up as Robin for Halloween.The one from the comics that mur.....I've said too much.
Swayman's only option was arbitration or to take a lesser offer. This means Don and the Bruins played a part in this. Even if Swayman elected for it, most teams work to avoid arbitration and sign a deal before then. Especially when it involves one of your best players and a key pieces of the future. The Bruins are also complicit in this. The Bruins know arbitration is relationship damaging, why didn't they work out a deal before hand?
Based on how Bruins handle RFAs in general. Yes I'd say this is true.
One was a rental that was often a healthy scratch and one had 2 more seasons at 2.75 mil per that was often a healthy scratchI don't really think Colin Miller is an improvement over Peeke. Playing for 6 teams over the last 8 seasons tells me Miller isn't endearing himself to anyone.
If the B's didn't make the trade with Ottawa, they may still have Ullmark. More leverage in negotiating with Swayman but less cap space to do it with.
Perhaps because Swayman was asking for way too much?