BruinsFan37
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This is getting silly. When Swayman signs, (I have little doubt that he will sign) all this nonsense will quickly fade away.
What does this mean exactly? That Sweeney should just roll over and give in to Gross' demands? That seems like it would set a bad precedent for negotiations with other RFAs in the future... Poitras? Lohrei? Just threaten to sit out and the Bruins will give you whatever you want...Without a doubt in my mind it’s Gross and Sweeney holding this up. One is butthurt with Krug and one has the ego to “beat” Gross after the Nylander stuff. If the both are long term is true it’s about AAV and I see Sweeney being the one holding the fort
Could be wrong but it’s just stupid he’s not here. Sound like a 7 vs 9 AAV issue and both of them being dicks about it. Sweeney could and should do the right thing here
Not to me it doesn’t.Why would you dump Swayman ?
Makes no sense
As someone from the outside looking in, Shesterkin wants to set the goalie market, Swayman doesn't want to ruin the goalie market. Remarkable that this storyline is happening at roughly the same time.With Shesterkin also negotiating an extension with a self-induced cutoff date of season start, how tied to this deal do we think Swayman’s contract is?
As someone from the outside looking in, Shesterkin wants to set the goalie market, Swayman doesn't want to ruin the goalie market. Remarkable that this storyline is happening at roughly the same time.
If either Shesterkin or Swayman's next contract affects the goalie market going forward, will their respective teams still be able to build a roster capable of winning it all? IMO, the last time a goalie led a middle of the pack team on his back to win the SC was Patrick Roy in 1993 with the Canadiens. It's very difficult to do.
I always laugh at this. The NHL isn't the Supreme Court. We don't have Stare Decisis here. A GM is free to pay one guy a certain amount and deny another guy later on.What does this mean exactly? That Sweeney should just roll over and give in to Gross' demands? That seems like it would set a bad precedent for negotiations with other RFAs in the future... Poitras? Lohrei? Just threaten to sit out and the Bruins will give you whatever you want...
How did caving in to Gross' hardball tactics work out for the Leafs with Nylander in 2018? Dubas rolling over established the emptiness of his negotiating position and gave the green light for Matthews and Marner to take him to the cleaners shortly after. The Leafs have been a top-heavy team with not cap space for depth ever since.
Heck, how did the Krug contract, that's apparently the source of the bad blood between Sweeney and Gross, work out for the Blues? Last I checked they've marooned him on their version of Robidas island to get some cap relief. Good thing Sweeney didn't cave in to Gross during that negotiation, huh?
At the end of the day both sides stand to lose significantly if this isn't resolved soon. The Bruins are a much worse team without Swayman in the net, I don't think that's debatable. Swayman has a limited number of years to earn money as an NHL player and will never recoup whatever money he loses by sitting out. Both sides need to drop the petty, butthurt crap and meet in the middle to get this resolved. Just my opinion.
I would be remiss if I did not extend an invitation to join us in the OT: No Politics thread.No need for you to apologize, my friend. I was venting at the poor choice of words, the phrase, used by whoever wrote that article.
It's been a bad couple of months for me and today I find myself officially unemployed. Maybe I'll find and open that bottle of Johnny Walker Black stashed in the cabinet under the kitchen counter to sooth my nerves. Won't happen, but it is a thought.
Playoffs? He played well for what, 20 games? Look at his career instead since that’s far more indicative of what he is. And he’s always been a 3rd pairing guy. Water always finds its level. Playing him on a top pair or second pairing doesn’t make him that kind of player, it just means you’re playing him out of his natural spot. Looked super solid like a top pairing on that goal a minute ago too, no? LOFLZadorov will not be a 3rd pair D. Did you watch him in the PO? He was more
impactful than any Boston LD man in the PO. Lohre will get 3rd pair reps and some PP time.
I always laugh at this. The NHL isn't the Supreme Court. We don't have Stare Decisis here. A GM is free to pay one guy a certain amount and deny another guy later on.
I don't know that the issue is big dollars specifically. The Pastrnak and McAvoy contracts were both market value at the time based on comparables and past and projected performances. Pasta's contract, in particular, is already looking like it's going to age extremely well given some of the contracts that have been signed since then.They paid Pasta and McAvoy big dollars, so I don't think it's an issue of spending. It really does make you wonder what the hell *is* going on here, though.
Lol, pre-season chirping.Playoffs? He played well for what, 20 games? Look at his career instead since that’s far more indicative of what he is. And he’s always been a 3rd pairing guy. Water always finds its level. Playing him on a top pair or second pairing doesn’t make him that kind of player, it just means you’re playing him out of his natural spot. Looked super solid like a top pairing on that goal a minute ago too, no? LOFL
Well considering both players were universally considered replacement players with awful contracts I would assume doing nothing in both cases would have been prudent.Of course not.
But you suggest there were such obvious players available. I would think they would know better than us.
Nah, just watch. By the end of the season the guy will have played minutes that equate to him being a third pairing. It’s who he is in his dna. Shows flashes but is wildly inconsistentLol, pre-season chirping.
going off reports they are ok long term. Make the money work and stop being a penny wise and pond foolish.What does this mean exactly? That Sweeney should just roll over and give in to Gross' demands? That seems like it would set a bad precedent for negotiations with other RFAs in the future... Poitras? Lohrei? Just threaten to sit out and the Bruins will give you whatever you want...
How did caving in to Gross' hardball tactics work out for the Leafs with Nylander in 2018? Dubas rolling over established the emptiness of his negotiating position and gave the green light for Matthews and Marner to take him to the cleaners shortly after. The Leafs have been a top-heavy team with not cap space for depth ever since.
Heck, how did the Krug contract, that's apparently the source of the bad blood between Sweeney and Gross, work out for the Blues? Last I checked they've marooned him on their version of Robidas island to get some cap relief. Good thing Sweeney didn't cave in to Gross during that negotiation, huh?
At the end of the day both sides stand to lose significantly if this isn't resolved soon. The Bruins are a much worse team without Swayman in the net, I don't think that's debatable. Swayman has a limited number of years to earn money as an NHL player and will never recoup whatever money he loses by sitting out. Both sides need to drop the petty, butthurt crap and meet in the middle to get this resolved. Just my opinion.
The old wives tale is they had agreed, then Gross came back asking for more anfter they had an angreement and then Sweeney told him to pound sand.going off reports they are ok long term. Make the money work and stop being a penny wise and pond foolish.
Don't care about the Leafs or Nylander. Swayman is franchise goalie, not easy to find.
As far as Krug, I didn't want him anyways but if the old wives tales are correct they Bruins had offered a contract at some point, Krug came back to ink it and they pulled it.
Agree on the pettiness from both sides.
well if that is truly it (never heard this one before) then yes Gross should pound sand although honestly I can't believe they would have wanted Krug back at that kind of extension.The old wives tale is they had agreed, then Gross came back asking for more anfter they had an angreement and then Sweeney told him to pound sand.
Dom has the story. Was told on his pod again a few weeks back. I don’t believe their agreement was anywhere near what he got.well if that is truly it (never heard this one before) then yes Gross should pound sand although honestly I can't believe they would have wanted Krug back at that kind of extension.
Ah ok, then that makes sense. The contract was a complete head scratcher IMO.Dom has the story. Was told on his pod again a few weeks back. I don’t believe their agreement was anywhere near what he got.
Lol, well, I'm glad I was able to make you laugh then. We could all use a bit more of that in this thread hahaI always laugh at this. The NHL isn't the Supreme Court. We don't have Stare Decisis here. A GM is free to pay one guy a certain amount and deny another guy later on.
You can love Swayman and slam himNot to me it doesn’t.
Ask the anti-Swayman crowd. They’ve been slamming him, his arrogance, his greediness, his selfishness and his lack of experience/success for the last six weeks.
Personally, I think Swayman is every bit as important to the Bruins hopes as McAvoy, Pastrnak and Marchand.
Korpisalo may turn out to be a positive contributor. Remains to be seen. But he’s no Sway.
Had a good laugh at the Community reference. Was joking that if Utah went with Hockey Club they may as well take a page out of Greendale and call themselves the Utah Human BeingsYou can love Swayman and slam him
I think he’s going to be a star but if he wants 9 M AAV (I’m told he doesn’t) he’s a greedy prick
And STFU about arbitration ~ you sound like a whiney freakin bitch
I would sign him 8/64 or 6/50 tonight both exceed Saros who’s every bit as good and has a resume
He’s going to sign and be better for the experience but his agent brought all this on
I’d fire his ass if he represented me - he’s a media whore obvious to anyone who followed the Nylander saga
The Bruins responded with the 10 M AVV using a radio non-hockey talk show host that hit a bullseye and I’m sure caught Swayman off guard since he knows it’s BS
Gross thought he could throw mud while wearing a new suit - sorry dude this ain’t the Greendale CC human beings they are going up against