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Speculation: Jamie Benn staying in Dallas



Looked pretty terrible when I watched Stars play

If they are indeed bringing him back then hopefully for them its at a relatively cheap rate because his performance will only further decline

Benn...hes been a long time Star. Looked at him at a lower cost 4th liner veteran. How much money could be the issue. %2M, not an issue, $5M would be one
 
If he and Dallas have agreed for him to come back it will be a lot closer to $1 million than anything else. They have lots cap to worry about and he was playing 10 minutes a night by the end of the season.

I’ll say $1.5 million with some incentives to ride out into the Texas sunset with another stab at the Cup next spring.
 
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Looked beyond washed against Edmonton but I suspect he will take near minimum to come back as a 4th line guy who can have still grab some PP minutes and some ozone starts.
I don't watch him play, but just going by stats, his 5 on 5 numbers are still solid, it's his PP numbers that are way down.
 
Bums don't hold top nine roles on playoff contenders for an entire season and score 50 points. He just can't do that and be impactful in a long playoff run anymore. If it's cheap, why not?
 
I don't watch him play, but just going by stats, his 5 on 5 numbers are still solid, it's his PP numbers that are way down.
Not terrible but not great. He was still the worst of their regular forwards in CF% during the regular season. Then he went from a third liner with significant PP time to a pure bottom six role player in the playoffs. He will be 36 in a month, and he is just not mobile enough. And he's simply been seeing less and less ice time - he was 11th on the team in even strength usage in the regular season at 12:23 and that dropped to 11:57 in the playoffs along with a neutering of his PP usage after scoring 1 PP goal all year despite averaging 2:14 of PP time.

Any team looking at his 49 points and paying him an AAV commensurate with that moving forward isn't doing their homework. He was pretty much a 4th liner playing with Blackwell and Steel by the end of the Edmonton series.

I'm not saying he can't be a depth contributor still and he's just an absolute legend for Dallas so it makes sense there is mutual interest in bringing him back. But it certainly will be on a cheap deal.
 
Honestly, at the right price, there could be something to not only reserving him for specialized/opportunistic assignments, but even routine healthy scratches. He’s way more valuable to them in the playoffs.
 
His pts/60 is still pretty decent for a middle 6 (he was 96th in NHL, ahead of Nuke and right behind Knies, Bedard, and Rossi). People probably dont realize he doesnt get a whole lot of ice time. Thats even after he went a little cold the final ~30 games of the season + playoffs (the team kinda did too).

Stars need to determine if the last 50 games is a harbinger of the remainder of his career or chalk it up to somethinf like DeBoer losing the room, overall team performance, being a new dad, etc
 
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His pts/60 is still pretty decent for a middle 6 (he was 96th in NHL, ahead of Nuke and right behind Knies, Bedard, and Rossi). People probably dont realize he doesnt get a whole lot of ice time. Thats even after he went a little cold the final ~30 games of the season + playoffs (the team kinda did too).

Stars need to determine if the last 50 games is a harbinger of the remainder of his career or chalk it up to somethinf like DeBoer losing the room, overall team performance, being a new dad, etc

Pts/60 has to be one of the most stupid stats around. Daniel Sprong is one of the better pts/60 guys in the last 5 years. There’s a reason Benn was getting 4th line minutes by the end of the season and getting yanked from the PP.

People do realize Benn doesn’t get much ice time, that’s why they don’t want him back or don’t want to pay him anything more than a minimal 35+ deal. Because he’s purely bottom six player and not getting any younger or faster.

He’s earned a place among the Stars’ best ever but Father Time is calling. It’s a moot point because sounds like he will be back which can be a feel good story…but it will almost certainly be on the team’s financial terms, which cannot afford to be based on what he’s done in the last but what he’s likely to be utilized as in the coming season(s).
 
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Pts/60 has to be one of the most stupid stats around. Daniel Sprong is one of the better pts/60 guys in the last 5 years. There’s a reason Benn was getting 4th line minutes by the end of the season and getting yanked from the PP.

People do realize Benn doesn’t get much ice time, that’s why they don’t want him back or don’t want to pay him anything more than a minimal 35+ deal. Because he’s purely bottom six player and not getting any younger or faster.

He’s earned a place among the Stars’ best ever but Father Time is calling. It’s a moot point because sounds like he will be back which can be a feel good story…but it will almost certainly be on the team’s financial terms, which cannot afford to be based on what he’s done in the last but what he’s likely to be utilized as in the coming season(s).

jesus dude, nobody’s advocating giving him a 3 x $5m deal or anything. He’s coming back for < $2m (and thats all the team can afford). And on a team wirh Hintz, Robertson, Johnston, Duchene,etc of course he’s getting less ice time than them.

But I disagree - not everybody pays close attention to Dallas and realizes how little ice time he gets in relation to his name recognition/cap hit. His production at 14 ATOI is viewed a lot differently than at 18 ATOI. He’s not the player he once was but him as a 3rd/4th liner for < $2m is still a solid deal for the offense he can produce without too many deficiencies. We’re not talking about Ryan Reaves or anything

while you’re correct you can’t use a single stat when evaluating a player or determining their worth, it does help put some things in perspective. Im talking about the captain of a team coming off his 8 x $9.5m deal and looking to play his final year or two as a 36 year old for a little over bet minimum. Sprong is a mid/late 20’s, career 0.45 ppg player that had two decent point producing seasons in his career (total), both in very limited ice time producing a pretty large outlier (and Benn had a higher p/60 over those 2 seasons too). Hopefully you can tell the difference between the 2
 
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Why's a big story (FAIL) about Troy Terry just ignored? This reporter is talking out of his ass and has been for a while - perhaps jobless?
 


Looked pretty terrible when I watched Stars play

If they are indeed bringing him back then hopefully for them its at a relatively cheap rate because his performance will only further decline

Unless it’s for like $1.5 and under that’s a terrible idea.

They have a lot of holes to fill with so little space and anything above a 3rd/4th line he looks like a liability most nights
 
Unless it’s for like $1.5 and under that’s a terrible idea.

They have a lot of holes to fill with so little space and anything above a 3rd/4th line he looks like a liability most nights
I’d assume it will be tbh. He knows the financial state of the team and he got his bag. Plus I better mention the state tax so the leafs fans don’t get mad at me.

It’s a very real possibility he wins a cup in Dallas. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him on a sub-2m deal.
 


Looked pretty terrible when I watched Stars play

If they are indeed bringing him back then hopefully for them its at a relatively cheap rate because his performance will only further decline

Benn has never aptly lived up to that $9M+ contract extension and at this stage, he doesn't bring anything positive of consequence to the table, even at "relatively cheap rate." His physicality, shot, speed or leadership (or the semblande of whatever he possesaed) are all but gone.

Moreover, I'm very surprised that a management that rumoredly regretted not having traded him some 8 years ago, prior to his $9M+ extension, is bringing him back when they can just walk away. It just shows that Nill has run out of options to refill that bottom six.

This is going to be all kinds of bad for the Stars in 2025-26.
 
Why's a big story (FAIL) about Troy Terry just ignored? This reporter is talking out of his ass and has been for a while - perhaps jobless?
Make a separate thread about it - get some huge cred
 
So this thread is in theory about Jamie Benn, but the embedded tweet is about Troy Terry for some reason who is in fact not Jamie Benn.

Those are different people
 

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