Value of: Jack Quinn, Dylan Cozens, Jordan Greenway

[Bryanbryoil]

What's the ask for Greenway if he's finally healthy?

 

[SundherDome]

That would do I suspect

I think it has to start with a 2 at the minimum. Teams overvalue big body guys, who are great penalty killers and play a physical brand of hockey.

What's the ask for Greenway if he's finally healthy?

See above

 

[biturbo19]

If/When Boeser is dealt out of Vancouver, i can see them having real interest in Jack Quinn to replace him. Trick is...i'd assume most of what Canucks will acquire in a Boeser deal is "futures", which doesn't necessarily move the needle for Buffalo right now, who want to climb out of that hole they're in.

 

[thewookie1]

I've thought Boston and Buffalo could be good trade parnters. Boston needs youth and Buffalo needs experience and guys who have come from winning programs.

Maybe somethinng like Carlo for Cozens.

If we weren't in the same division, certainly.

 

[Beerz]

I've thought Boston and Buffalo could be good trade parnters. Boston needs youth and Buffalo needs experience and guys who have come from winning programs.

Maybe somethinng like Carlo for Cozens.

I don't think Carlo has that much value ... I would give a pick and a prospect like Rosen or Komarov

 

[truthbluth]

I've thought Boston and Buffalo could be good trade parnters. Boston needs youth and Buffalo needs experience and guys who have come from winning programs.

Maybe somethinng like Carlo for Cozens.

Hasn't Carlo's play fallen off a cliff this year? Not sure that's a good move for the Sabres.

 

[TageGod]

Basically looking to re-tool for next season, no rush on anyone but Greenway.

1. Quinn- almost .5 ppg with limited time, just kinda the least impressive youngster to me. Feels like there should be more there, but I don’t see much beyond a fantastic shot. Just being honest.
2. Cozens- He’s a player, he just needs his confidence back. Could be easier to make that happen elsewhere is all.
3. Greenway- Would prefer to re-sign, but he’s UFA otherwise.
4. Additionally, all draft picks are available to make somethin happen.

Needs: a youngish 2C and an RD. Jokiharju or Samuelsson could be moved to balance that out for both teams.

Any offers? Feels like it’s gonna be a boring deadline, just wondering what we could do if we ever did anything (Bryam for Mitts has worked out decently so far, at least).

I'd give Quinn more time, his value is LOW. He has been an elite offensive producer before this season. Better to bet on him getting back to form than selling for pennies.

 

[AfroThunder396]

It's one thing for fans to discuss value, but how confident are Sabres fans that Adams will actually get what these players are worth?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

It's one thing for fans to discuss value, but how confident tare Sabres fans that Adams will actually get what these players are worth?

It's far more likely Adams makes no moves than he gets bad value.

 

[Zman5778]

What's the ask for Greenway if he's finally healthy?

Either a 2nd or something like a 3rd plus a 5th or 6th.

 

[Beerz]

It's one thing for fans to discuss value, but how confident tare Sabres fans that Adams will actually get what these players are worth?

I have zero confidence in Adams...with anything

 

[Djp]

I've thought Boston and Buffalo could be good trade parnters. Boston needs youth and Buffalo needs experience and guys who have come from winning programs.

Maybe somethinng like Carlo for Cozens.

No. Carlo has fallen off a cliff.

What's the ask for Greenway if he's finally healthy?

2nd at least

If/When Boeser is dealt out of Vancouver, i can see them having real interest in Jack Quinn to replace him. Trick is...i'd assume most of what Canucks will acquire in a Boeser deal is "futures", which doesn't necessarily move the needle for Buffalo right now, who want to climb out of that hole they're in.

Walinder is the only think of interest I have in vancouver

 

[PlayMakers]

I don't think Carlo has that much value ... I would give a pick and a prospect like Rosen or Komarov

Toronto and Montreal fans in the other thread are offering a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect/young NHL player (Robertson or Roy).

I think both Carlo and Cozens (also not having a great year) are candidates for big turnarounds.

 

[PlayMakers]

Hasn't Carlo's play fallen off a cliff this year? Not sure that's a good move for the Sabres.

I wouldn't say fallen off a cliff. He hasn't had a great year ever since Lindholm went down. Carlo is used to playing with a puckmover (Lindholm, Grzelcyk, Krug) and without one he hasn't been as effective. But he still can defend. He played great games against McDavid in Edmonton and against MacKinnon in Boston. But like the whole team, it's inconsistent. Our forwards are inconsistent, our systems are inconsistent our goaltending has been inconsistent. Strange year.

 

[Beerz]

Toronto and Montreal fans in the other thread are offering a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect/young NHL player (Robertson or Roy).

I think both Carlo and Cozens (also not having a great year) are candidates for big turnarounds.

No way you are getting a 1st from Montreal ... maybe one from Toronto.

Cozens is 24.. Carlo is 28 who has never been a very good skater. I will place my bets on Cozens turning it around.


You are going to be sadly disappointed if you expecting a 1st,2nd and a good prospect for a shut down D who has struggled to shut anything down this year and provides zero offense.

Defensive D just don't garner that much.

 

[toddkaz]

It's one thing for fans to discuss value, but how confident are Sabres fans that Adams will actually get what these players are worth?

We aren't. We hope he is fired at the end of the year and we have a new GM. 50/50 Pegula fires his press secretary

 

[benfranklin]

Mittlestadt - $5.75M 2 more years
Ritchie - ELC

for

Cozens - $7.1M 7 more years
Byram - RFA $5-6M incoming?

Mitts started hot but has simmered badly in CO.
Ritchie is a grade A prospect.

Cozens has 2C potential like Mitts in the right situation.
Byram will never get PP1 time behind Dahlin, so same in COL, but I personally want him back

 

[truthbluth]

Mittlestadt - $5.75M 2 more years
Ritchie - ELC

for

Cozens - $7.1M 7 more years
Byram - RFA $5-6M incoming?

Mitts started hot but has simmered badly in CO.
Ritchie is a grade A prospect.

Cozens has 2C potential like Mitts in the right situation.
Byram will never get PP1 time behind Dahlin, so same in COL, but I personally want him back

Is this a joke?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Mittlestadt - $5.75M 2 more years
Ritchie - ELC

for

Cozens - $7.1M 7 more years
Byram - RFA $5-6M incoming?

Mitts started hot but has simmered badly in CO.
Ritchie is a grade A prospect.

Cozens has 2C potential like Mitts in the right situation.
Byram will never get PP1 time behind Dahlin, so same in COL, but I personally want him back

LOL.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Toronto and Montreal fans in the other thread are offering a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect/young NHL player (Robertson or Roy).

I think both Carlo and Cozens (also not having a great year) are candidates for big turnarounds.

Whichever Montreal fan is offering that for Carlo please tell them to stop cheering for the same team I do.

 

[Fjordsen]

Mittlestadt - $5.75M 2 more years
Ritchie - ELC

for

Cozens - $7.1M 7 more years
Byram - RFA $5-6M incoming?

Mitts started hot but has simmered badly in CO.
Ritchie is a grade A prospect.

Cozens has 2C potential like Mitts in the right situation.
Byram will never get PP1 time behind Dahlin, so same in COL, but I personally want him back

Horrible for Sabres

 

[benfranklin]

Horrible for Sabres

Why? Cozens and Mittlestadt are basically a wash and the only argument is their value based on contracts which you can argue both sides.

So then Ritchie vs Byram. Ritchie is an ELC high end prospect which the Sabres need more of now since they arent going anywhere anytime soon. The Avs need to win now which Byram helps with.

 

[CowbellConray]

Why? Cozens and Mittlestadt are basically a wash and the only argument is their value based on contracts which you can argue both sides.

So then Ritchie vs Byram. Ritchie is an ELC high end prospect which the Sabres need more of now since they arent going anywhere anytime soon. The Avs need to win now which Byram helps with.

Because Byram has shown this year to be a very good top 4 D who will be an RFA and can sign a long term deal, and you are offering a good prospect (not an A prospect, a B one) for a sure fire top 4 D. That's not good enough value. If it was simplified, maybe Ritchie and a 2nd for Byram I think it's closer.

With that said, Ritchie is just another part of what the Sabres already have, young forwards who haven't had success at the NHL level. He lumps in with Rosen, Kulich, Ostlund, etc.

 

[Fjordsen]

Why? Cozens and Mittlestadt are basically a wash and the only argument is their value based on contracts which you can argue both sides.

So then Ritchie vs Byram. Ritchie is an ELC high end prospect which the Sabres need more of now since they arent going anywhere anytime soon. The Avs need to win now which Byram helps with.

Even if Cozens and Mittelstadt have similar value, I wouldn't do it.

Byram plays in the first pair and plays well, so why do we need more prospects? On the contrary, we only need hockey deals, we have a ton of prospects.

 

[benfranklin]

Because Byram has shown this year to be a very good top 4 D who will be an RFA and can sign a long term deal, and you are offering a good prospect (not an A prospect, a B one) for a sure fire top 4 D. That's not good enough value. If it was simplified, maybe Ritchie and a 2nd for Byram I think it's closer.

With that said, Ritchie is just another part of what the Sabres already have, young forwards who haven't had success at the NHL level. He lumps in with Rosen, Kulich, Ostlund, etc.

Even if Cozens and Mittelstadt have similar value, I wouldn't do it.

Byram plays in the first pair and plays well, so why do we need more prospects? On the contrary, we only need hockey deals, we have a ton of prospects.

Does that not feel like kicking the can down the road more? Why not try something new for once and actually go hard in tomorrows players. Rantanen nor Marner are coming to Buffalo. EP40 is a maybe but arguably the worst contract in the league. So you get more Zucker like players who are NHL players, but not moving the needle to even being a bubble team, let alone a true contender.

You guys need holy crap prospects.