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Before he fell off a cliff, he was likely looking at the Lehner deal (5x5) in the open market
If he doesn't bounce back, 3x3 perhaps or Mrazek's deal (3x3.8) might be the best case scenario
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Before he fell off a cliff, he was likely looking at the Lehner deal (5x5) in the open market
If he doesn't bounce back, 3x3 perhaps or Mrazek's deal (3x3.8) might be the best case scenario
He'll be lucky to get a contract at this rate. There are so many goaltenders at his level you can pick up for cheap
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
If he does not bounce back, he'll be gone and Mrazek takes over the #1 job IMO.
hotpaws
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if he doesn't bounce back he'll be looking at 2 x 2 at best unless Edm gets desperate , lol
ULF_55
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You have to think if he doesn't turn it around he could re-sign at same money for a year or sign elsewhere for a team thinking it is all Leafs' coaching.
He'll go wherever Dubas go. Hoping both can end up with the Oilers
Eh. IMO Jack Campbell has essentially played himself down to a 1 year deal again.
At this point, he’s back to being a question mark, who has shown flashes of being a legitimate starter, flashes of being a tandem goalie and flashes of well…. Being neither.
I love Campbell, I want him to turn it around and come through this a better goalie.
However right now, even 3x3 is risky
At this point, he’s back to being a question mark, who has shown flashes of being a legitimate starter, flashes of being a tandem goalie and flashes of well…. Being neither.
I love Campbell, I want him to turn it around and come through this a better goalie.
However right now, even 3x3 is risky
The Leafs let two points get away against the Canucks. And the goalie question continues to grow | The Star
About Jack Jack Campbell allowed four or more goals for the sixth time in his last eight games. It wasn’t the response he was looking for in his first start since he allowed five on 25 shots last Saturday, before being pulled against Detroit.
Campbell, though, is trying to reverse a natural tendency to be hard on himself.
“I’ve been hard on myself and it’s snowballed lately,” the goalie said. “I’m trying to chill a bit more. I’m never happy giving up goals any time. But I appreciate the fans supporting me and the team, and I promise I’ll get out of it. Sometimes trying too hard isn’t the best thing. I’ll get it back, I promise."
“Obviously there was a bit of nerves tonight. I wanted this game badly, and I wanted it for (Simmonds) too. But I’m trying to critique my game more appropriately, instead of bashing it all the time.”
Campbell and Petr Mrázek have allowed more goals since Jan. 1 than any other current playoff team over that span. Toronto also ranks 28th with a .911 save percentage at five-on-five.
About Jack Jack Campbell allowed four or more goals for the sixth time in his last eight games. It wasn’t the response he was looking for in his first start since he allowed five on 25 shots last Saturday, before being pulled against Detroit.
Campbell, though, is trying to reverse a natural tendency to be hard on himself.
“I’ve been hard on myself and it’s snowballed lately,” the goalie said. “I’m trying to chill a bit more. I’m never happy giving up goals any time. But I appreciate the fans supporting me and the team, and I promise I’ll get out of it. Sometimes trying too hard isn’t the best thing. I’ll get it back, I promise."
“Obviously there was a bit of nerves tonight. I wanted this game badly, and I wanted it for (Simmonds) too. But I’m trying to critique my game more appropriately, instead of bashing it all the time.”
Campbell and Petr Mrázek have allowed more goals since Jan. 1 than any other current playoff team over that span. Toronto also ranks 28th with a .911 save percentage at five-on-five.
Stephen
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That's right. It's an A game, or it slowly snowballs into an F game.
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"There was a bit of nerves tonight" is very worrisome to hear in March. So he's telling us that his game is off, trying to hard etc etc....but on top of that he's also nervous coming into games? The nerves tonight will increase 100x for puck drop game 1.
Stephen
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Different Leaf goalies have failed for different reasons, but the common denominator since the Phil Kessel trade is the Leafs are built primarily on offensive punch which puts more strain on the goaltending position. We ask more out of our goalies, gives them less defensive support. The Frederik Andersen trade was probably the one time we went out and got a fairly blue chip prime age goalie in net.
Stephen
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He's over the hill now, but a guy like Jonathan Quick would be so refreshing to have in the goal position. The guy expects to win, battles to win and just has that A-type personality. I don't think we have a lot of those edgy competitor personalities and to have one in goal would be huge.
Quick has horrific stats. So does Peterson
Elvis has been bad. So has varlamov.
Ned has been brutal all year
Since the allstar game. Gibson has been worse than Campbell. Bob has been .882. Helley has been like .903 in a long stretch.
goaltending is nuts.
I really don’t know. Do we try to trade for Gibson/jelly/varlamov?
bank of husso or francouz as ufa?
Try to get a youngster like vanacek/hill?
teams that need goalies next year
1.) Colorado. 2.) Toronto. 3.) Chicago 4.) edmonton
with Pitt maybe trying to get fleury and Washington shopping.
If so that would put us 2-4 on the list
Kuemper. Husso. Francouz. Campbell fleury.
Stephen
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I'm not saying to get Quick now, but we could use a competitor like him as opposed to a guy who feels nerves during a home game in March...
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Dubas will head back to the AHL after another failed playoffs this year.
SeaOfBlue
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Varlamov hasn't been all that bad, especially given how awful the Islanders have been this year.
I think behind this defense, he gets back to the .920-.925 he has been sporting recently. I don't know how clutch he can be in the playoffs, but he has made the Conference Finals each of the past two years... And we have a much better offense than the Islanders so we have the potential to beat the teams he lost to.
I think Varlamov is probably our best bet. The contract is right (2 years at 5 mill; not a rental) but it also brings down the price because not many teams can or probably will want him (or can afford him) at 5 mill. We can give them Mrazek, who can be a more cost appropriate tandem option with Sorokin, or we can move Mrazek to a team like EDM and give the Islanders an expiring Koskinen.
Generally, however, I think unless the Leafs can get Varlamov or maybe Fleury/Holtby/Gibson, they will run with Campbell/Mrazek.
Campbell is going to be another name in the growing list of goalies that have left Toronto only to re-discover their game elsewhere. At the end of the day this organizations failures in net come down to a few key points:
- This market is extremely high pressure and tough on goalies especially
- A f***ing moron for a goalie coach
- A roster of players that refuse to play winning hockey
- A GM with a flawed vision of how to build a winning team
Menzinger
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Depending on how he finishes, teams may be reluctant to give as much of 3 years of term. May have to settle for an Andersen type "show me deal" at like 3 mil over just 1-2 years in length.
It seems like Campbell is losing sight of any action on the puck that forces him to adjust his line of sight from top to bottom and vice versa, ie. if the puck starts high and then goes low, or starts low and then goes high, he seems to lose sight of it.
Early on that didn't seem to make a difference.
I wonder if he has an eye or neck problem.
No, he'd still make a good back-up goalie. He seems fine with rest and a goalie that can potentially go on a hot streak over a short term is great thing to have in a back-up, but that assumes it's not an injury issue.
Early on that didn't seem to make a difference.
I wonder if he has an eye or neck problem.
No, he'd still make a good back-up goalie. He seems fine with rest and a goalie that can potentially go on a hot streak over a short term is great thing to have in a back-up, but that assumes it's not an injury issue.
Arthur Morgan
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Leafs will be our downfall like they always are.
We are here to suffer don't forget it
Arthur Morgan
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Not sure if this is even a Campbell problem.
every year.....EVERY year for as long as I can remember. Leafs are great in the first half
then this is what we get in the 2nd half
question is.
Is this a Campbell problem?
or a Leafs problem?
every year.....EVERY year for as long as I can remember. Leafs are great in the first half
then this is what we get in the 2nd half
question is.
Is this a Campbell problem?
or a Leafs problem?
SeaOfBlue
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Have the Leafs' played defense that deserves an .875 save percentage?
Have the Leafs still been putting together a 100 point pace in spite of the worst goaltending in the league since the start of 2022?
Seems like a Campbell problem.
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