Atomos2
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Campbell shouldn't get paid anymore than Mrazek. He is choking pretty hard right now.
Trade Mrazek and give Campbell the same contract. Maybe less.
Trade Mrazek and give Campbell the same contract. Maybe less.
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Remember when his agent tweeted "Show me the money", then quickly took it down?
Seems like it's been all downhill since then.
In November I read that he was playing his way out of the Leafs lineup next year because they couldn't afford him. Probably not the case now.
Seems like it's been all downhill since then.
In November I read that he was playing his way out of the Leafs lineup next year because they couldn't afford him. Probably not the case now.
He's going through a rough stretch, but even so he's 41-12-6 as a Leaf with a .921 SV% to go with a .934 SV% in the playoffs next year.
He needs to figure it out and get out of his own head but I still think he's better than Mrazek.
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Mrazek has a long, solid track record in the league. I would argue he is an ideal 1B, and gives the team the insurance policy it needs when Campbell goes into a funk, as we have seen in the past. Mrazek seems past his injury troubles, so should be able to get some games in and reinforce his value.
ShaneFalco
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Nope and I'm still not sure what he is and if he's someone you lock up
I could be dead wrong about Mrazek as he seems to be playing a lot better than Jack
I could be wrong but I think this was Dan Milstein that did that, Mikheyev's agent.
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Stephen
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Well, Alexander Mikheyev’s scoring touch has dried up since that tweet too so we shall see.
Stephen
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If Campbell picks up the pieces and rips off another hot streak, you feel more confident in investing in him but at the same time if this is his first season as the starter over 82 games, do you expect these poor months, do you think he gains consistency? Tough questions to ask. I’m on the fence, I don’t know if I want to pay him and build around him.
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It was indeed Milstein that tweeted. He tweeted that right after he scored one of his goals.
February will be a crucial time for Campbell. We have a lot of of games coming up. I hope he can shake it off. We've had this kind of goaltending for years now where it goes from great to bad very fast. It's a shame we can't seem to find a goaltender that can put up consistent star level performances through the year. Mrazek maybe can heat up at the right time.
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10 years he hasnt shown consistency. Al of sudden 25 games he has you convinced hes a good goalie ?
This is jack. When hes good hes good. When hes bad really bad
I told you all it was a bad idea to trade Mrazek.
If anyone should be traded, it should be Mik. He will definitely shoot for a big payday with the Leafs no matter what (so will Campbell, but it's way harder to find solid goaltending), and his injuries are piling up at an older age. Better to take advantage of his hotstreak then to wait until he prices himself out of the line-up.
If anyone should be traded, it should be Mik. He will definitely shoot for a big payday with the Leafs no matter what (so will Campbell, but it's way harder to find solid goaltending), and his injuries are piling up at an older age. Better to take advantage of his hotstreak then to wait until he prices himself out of the line-up.
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all goalies have ups and downs in a season. lets wait and see if he can bounce back before the season ends. if he bounces back, we should re-sign campbell. if he continues his sub-par goaltending till season's end, then let him walk.
i'd only offer him $4M-4.5M at the most for over 4-5 years. anything more for money or term is risky.
i'd only offer him $4M-4.5M at the most for over 4-5 years. anything more for money or term is risky.
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Jack Campbell was playing at .940+ for several months and now for the past two months, he's been playing at an .890% level. He has had no middle ground this season. He's either been super elite or garbage.
I think he'll get over the funk and get back to .920% goaltending, I'd be happy with that.
I think he'll get over the funk and get back to .920% goaltending, I'd be happy with that.
ShaneFalco
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It's like Andersen all over again! Actually no, because even when Freddy was playing well, he'd often let softies in
HellasLEAF
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I don't know if it's a rough patch, more like Campbell isn't making crucial saves on prime scoring opportunities like he was in the past bailing out the Leafs and allowing the offence to win games. When Campbell was dominating he would always have a handful of monster saves early in games and then throughout allowing the Leafs offence to take over.
I don't know the statistics and am not concerned, all I can see with my eyes is a defence corps with no star player, no #1 defenceman, marginal physicality, and two very young defenceman getting more and more icetime. We cannot assume Campbell will continue to put up vezina numbers in order to win. Team still just isn't good enough defensively and this will be further exposed come playoff time.
I don't know the statistics and am not concerned, all I can see with my eyes is a defence corps with no star player, no #1 defenceman, marginal physicality, and two very young defenceman getting more and more icetime. We cannot assume Campbell will continue to put up vezina numbers in order to win. Team still just isn't good enough defensively and this will be further exposed come playoff time.
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This is why they have Mrazek. Time for him to get more games
Jack's a good guy, just needs to shake this off and find some stability in his game.
Jack's a good guy, just needs to shake this off and find some stability in his game.
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Until this 'rough patch' was he not statistically the best goalie in the NHL since Feb of last year? Apparently not good enough for Leaf fans now they are scapegoating him. Campbell is a big reason why the Leafs are where they are in the standings. Goes for last season as well. Hope they figure out the defence.
Campbell has been struggling lately, but I still have faith that he'll rebound. Either way, this shows how important it is to be sure of what you have before handing out big contracts in a tight cap environment. I'm very thankful we have an effective 1B in Mrazek. He's stepped it up as Campbell hit his rough patch.
Some people might not like it but I am kind of glad we have not signed him to a long term extension yet. I like him but I haven't seen anything out of him that I haven't seen in Reimer, Bernier or Andersen. He's not going to be the IT factor for us to win a series or Cup, we'll win because we played well in front of him...he's not the type of goalie who will shut things down when we are up 3-2 in a series and are looking to close it.
Rather roll the dice between both Mrazek and Campbell for now and then go with Mrazek/1B next year instead of paying Campbell a lot of money and then having an inexperienced back up where we are basically giving away free points every time we play the backup.
He's too emotional for his own good. He probably takes things too hard and doesn't get over losses quickly and that's why his wins and losses both snowball into streaks.
Rather roll the dice between both Mrazek and Campbell for now and then go with Mrazek/1B next year instead of paying Campbell a lot of money and then having an inexperienced back up where we are basically giving away free points every time we play the backup.
He's too emotional for his own good. He probably takes things too hard and doesn't get over losses quickly and that's why his wins and losses both snowball into streaks.
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Love Jack , love how he was playing before this poor stretch but many people who know better than I said a guy who plays at a high level for 30 to 40 games is not a proven #1A goalie. He has to show he can play 50 to 60 games at a high level to get 1A money. He has yet to show that he is a 1A goalie.
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