Value of: Jaccob Slavin

[Marner980]

Just gauging the value here.

Would Slavin for Marner 1 on 1 be a fair deal?

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[AhosDatsyukian]

LOL. Not available. Period.

 

[Marner980]

LOL. Not available. Period.

Not saying he is. Just gauging his value.

Which player in the league would be worth in a 1 for 1 trade for him.

I used Marner as an example. Would that be worth it value wise? Or do the Canes or Leafs add?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I mean League wide you would think Marner has more value in a vacuum. Guys like Slavin aren’t likely to return equal value because he isn’t an offensive dynamo.

He’s a premier shutdown d-man in his prime signed to a sweetheart deal for two more years…. So if we are trading him then we’d want something that checks those boxes but in a different positional need.

 

[DaveG]

As a player it's Marner but closer than you probably think due to position premium.

As a contact Slavin is more valuable to the point that there's nothing the Leafs have that they could add while still making it worth the Canes time while still being compliant under the cap.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Same term. Marner brings elite production. Slavin plays a premium position and is significantly cheaper on the cap.

Fans would certainly go in on the Leafs for trading a 100 point player for a 30-40 point defenseman. However, the league might value Slavin's perhaps best of his generation defensive talent. Making DeAngelo look like a competent top pairing defenseman says it all about how uniquely impactful he is on the other side of the puck.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Not saying he is. Just gauging his value.

Which player in the league would be worth in a 1 for 1 trade for him.

I used Marner as an example. Would that be worth it value wise? Or do the Canes or Leafs add?

The only players he’d be worth are other players that would never be available. It’s a pointless thread. He’s as untouchable as McDavid (not saying he’s anywhere near as good as McDavid, no one is, but he’s a franchise elite number 1 D for the Canes and not getting moved, there is no value that would change that).

 

[FlyguyOX]

I remember similar rhetoric around Vlasic.

 

[Marner980]

Thank you. That’s all I was looking for.

Also I would add players like Hughes, Rantanen, Thompson as equal value as well.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I remember similar rhetoric around Vlasic.

Completely different style of players but when MEV was making $4.25 he WAS an elite shutdown guy and his value was insanely high. Then he got signed the new deal and turned into a pumpkin. It was a bad contract from the beginning since his skill set wasn’t likely to age that well.

Slavin is a great skating, mobile/positional D in the mold of Lidstrom (obviously not near that level) but his style of play should age fairly well. He’s 28 and I don’t think it would shock anyone to continue to play great into his mid 30s. Of course he could turn into a pumpkin too but he’s lower risk for sure

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Entire Leafs organization should be fired if they traded Marner for Slavin.

 

[Bizz]

Negative Value.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I'd trade my left nut for Slavin.

Both for the player he is on the ice and the person he is off the ice.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I guess I do overrate our players because trading 25 year old Marner for 28 year old Slavin feels kind of bad even with the $$ difference.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

I'd trade my left nut for Slavin.

Both for the player he is on the ice and the person he is off the ice.

Your left nut has good character.

Entire Leafs organization should be fired if they traded Marner for Slavin.

You are not wrong, but…

…Entire Canes Borg should be thrown out of the airlock if they traded Slavin for Marner.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I guess I do overrate our players because trading 25 year old Marner for 28 year old Slavin feels kind of bad even with the $$ difference. Position is less relevant considering how effective Marner is as a 200ft player.

I don't really think it matters.

Neither team could really afford to move out the player in question anyways without crippling ramifications up and down their respective lineups.

 

[Svechhammer]

If you have to ask, you cannot afford it

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I don't really think it matters.

Neither team could really afford to move out the player in question anyways without crippling ramifications up and down their respective lineups.

I know but OP said just value wise, that's what I am basing it on.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I know but OP said just value wise, that's what I am basing it on.

I wasn't intending to target you or anything.

 

[The Real JT]

I'd trade my left nut for Slavin.

Both for the player he is on the ice and the person he is off the ice.

Why is it always the left one? Asking for a friend.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

 

[TGWL]

The cap hit obviously plays a big role here, but if you take that away, I can't see most teams trading Marner 1-1 for Slavin. The offense Marner brings with his defense is just too good. With that said, if you had a franchise player you were building around that was equally as good, or worth more to your team, I can then see a scenario where you go all in on a defensive beast like Slavin. But this is a scoring high league and Marner brings that.

On the other side, Carolina is a top 15 team in scoring and top 2 in goals against. So, I'm not sure it benefits them moving into the top 10 in scoring and out of the top 5 in goals against. I think if they can improve their powerplay slightly without trading away a rock like Slavin that would benefit them more.

 

[The Real JT]

I’m sure there’s plenty of avid fans here but more than a few probably haven’t seen Slavin play much. He’s a stud and doesn’t get the recognition he should. I’d take him all day over Marner and that’s not a slight on Marner.

And another thing: Let me know the next time Marner wins a playoff series. (That one is a slight.)

 

[SirloinUB]

I'll answer this a different way.

As a fan of a different team, and if I had the opportunity to acquire Marner or Slavin for the exact same acquisition cost, Id pick Marner.

That said, organizational context matters. My team has lots of cap space but needs elite offensive punch more than anything. I'd bet Edmonton would probably pick Slavin due to the contract and organizational needs.