Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL): Part III - IN SASHA ORLOV WE TRUST

[The Great Weal]

Worst part is that you just know MSL will give him the opportunity in the playoffs unlike the dinosaurs MT/CJ

 

[SwiftyHab]

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Wow. That’s not a no. If it was 100% No you’d have to think he’d just say ‘Nope. He’s ours till May 31st.’

 

[le_sean]

Well f*** you, you’re out of a job soon anyways you prick

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

How would that conversation go?

Hughes - Hi Mr. President....Kent Hughes here
SKA Prez - Who?
Hughes - GM Montreal Canadiens....I'd like to talk to you about releasing Ivan Demidov from his contractual obligations.
SKA Prez - Say no more......10 million crisp American dollars.....91 cartons of cigarettes.....American camels preferably.....Pizza party for me and my friends in the penthouse of the Burj Khalifa sponsored by Molson Beer with guest appearance by the Littlest Hobo and finally a signed Nick Suzuki SKA jersey.
Hughes - uhhhhh.....okay done.

Should be Rex of Hudson and Rex. Unfortunately Rex (Diesel Von Bergenwald) died of cancer a few months ago.

 

[salbutera]

How would that conversation go?

Hughes - Hi Mr. President....Kent Hughes here
SKA Prez - Who?
Hughes - GM Montreal Canadiens....I'd like to talk to you about releasing Ivan Demidov from his contractual obligations.
SKA Prez - Say no more......10 million crisp American dollars.....91 cartons of cigarettes.....American camels preferably.....Pizza party for me and my friends in the penthouse of the Burj Khalifa sponsored by Molson Beer with guest appearance by the Littlest Hobo and finally a signed Nick Suzuki SKA jersey.
Hughes - uhhhhh.....okay done.

SKA is a Russian State owned team, the discussions would without doubt have some Cdn government facilitation IMO.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Hopefully Kent puts pride aside and kisses the hole. Tell him what a great manager he is and how he made Demidov the player he is.

 

[Kennerback]

How would that conversation go?

Hughes - Hi Mr. President....Kent Hughes here
SKA Prez - Who?
Hughes - GM Montreal Canadiens....I'd like to talk to you about releasing Ivan Demidov from his contractual obligations.
SKA Prez - Say no more......10 million crisp American dollars.....91 cartons of cigarettes.....American camels preferably.....Pizza party for me and my friends in the penthouse of the Burj Khalifa sponsored by Molson Beer with guest appearance by the Littlest Hobo and finally a signed Nick Suzuki SKA jersey.
Hughes - uhhhhh.....okay done.

According to the NHL CBA, teams can't pay a Russian team a transfer fee. Although everyone heard that the Flyers might have paid something to get Michkov out early. In that case... That would mean the NHL unofficially doesn't enforce these CBA clauses. But I don't know if the story is true. If It would be only a question of money (I don't think it is), it would easily be solved.

 

[Colezuki]

SKA is a Russian State owned team, the discussions would without doubt have some Cdn government facilitation IMO.

I think SKA could ask the habs to leverage footage of him for the teams social accounts to basically get a second cheer for him for the Habs run but the idea ska needs to care about us is unfortunately naive.

 

[Colezuki]

According to the NHL CBA, teams can't pay a Russian team a transfer fee. Although ever heard that the Flyers might have paid something to get Michkov early. In that case, It would mean the NHL unofficially doesn't enforce these CBA clauses. But I don't know if the story is true. If It would be only a question of money (I don't think it is), it would easily be solved.

They can but it counts against the cap is my memory and unfortunately we are right up against

 

[salbutera]

“Everything will happen in its time”

 

[Runner77]

The gloves will tell the story. Watch for the gloves.

Mike chez RONA will show him the ropes once he’s here.

Vanya needs to master that slo-mo strut while sparks are flying.

 

[Boyon90]

who want to take a bet with me, 10$ wired that he will join mtl before his contract ends

like seriously why would SKA send him to junior just to have one more month of trying to conveince him, if he says planely im going to the NHL then they would be best to accept 1M buyout rather than nothing after may 31

im confident it will work out within the next 2 weeks

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

As hopeful as I am he’ll come over this year and whatever bias that may give me—RR’s words convey that it’s certainly not impossible as many seem to say. As far as I can tell anyways. Dodgy translations aside.

 

[Leto]

As hopeful as I am he’ll come over this year and whatever bias that may give me—RR’s words convey that it’s certainly not impossible as many seem to say. As far as I can tell anyways. Dodgy translations aside.

In other words : send in the Brinks trucks.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

who want to take a bet with me, 10$ wired that he will join mtl before his contract ends

like seriously why would SKA send him to junior just to have one more month of trying to conveince him, if he says planely im going to the NHL then they would be best to accept 1M buyout rather than nothing after may 31

im confident he it will work out within the next 2 weeks

Yeah I’m weirdly confident now. Not saying 100% but that door is open even if it’s just a creak right now

 

[Adam Michaels]

I'm expecting them to send him to VHL or MHL to join the SKA affiliates for their playoffs. I'm not expecting him to be released early to join Montreal. But man would that not be amazing if he comes over.

In his presser, Rotenberg mentioned that it would be better for Demidov and Nikishin to stay in Russia. However, regarding Nikishin, there was a report that there was an agreement they would release him early to join Carolina.

 

[Boyon90]

SKA is a Russian State owned team, the discussions would without doubt have some Cdn government facilitation IMO.

wrong, its owned by gazprom and the state has majority stakes in gazprom but gazprom is the owner, the state have nothing to do directly

 

[SpeedyPotato]

who want to take a bet with me, 10$ wired that he will join mtl before his contract ends

like seriously why would SKA send him to junior just to have one more month of trying to conveince him, if he says planely im going to the NHL then they would be best to accept 1M buyout rather than nothing after may 31

im confident it will work out within the next 2 weeks

I'm with you, I think he's coming over, just a hunch

 

[EtLeBut2]

He's not a winner I'm afraid, clearly couldn't get it done when it counted unfortunately.

Maybe he will get there but he needs another 3-4 years in Russia to figure it out.

 

[Erika]

I understand giving Demidov the best environment to thrive, though, as, in my opinion, Demidov is a potential franchise forward and you don't want waste that type of player's potential.

The same is being applied to Slafkovsky by playing him on a line with Caufield and Suzuki, but Demidov is an even better player than Slafkovsky.

Does that mean that Demidov doesn't need as good a C as Slafkovsky forms learning curve? Maybe not?

How about Slafkovsky - Suzuki- Demidov? I actually like the idea of Slafkovsky returning to his natural side with a C we all know to be good (finally).

Caufield has been more of a play driver this season and, with the right C, like Horvat, as an example, a line of Caufield - Horvat - Laine could create fireworks with goal scoring coming from all angles on a line with three confirmed 30+ goal scorers!

Slafkovsky (20) - Suzuki (30) - Demidov (25)
Caufield (30) - Horvat (30) - Laine (30)

165 goals from the top-6 would be awesome!

That's exactly what I suggested 2 days ago.
Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Demidov sounds more and more like a no brainer to me.

Give Demidov the best available center on the team and watch the magic operates. It will be huge for his NHL development.

 

[Kennerback]

Just for amusement sake: If SKA terminates the contract, I know that 100% of fans would want Demidov over. But if playoff games count for the 10 games minimum ELC slide, does Habs brass do it? They can't just end his season in the second round once he reaches 10 games...

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I'm expecting them to send him to VHL or MHL to join the SKA affiliates for their playoffs. I'm not expecting him to be released early to join Montreal. But man would that not be amazing if he comes over.

In his presser, Rotenberg mentioned that it would be better for Demidov and Nikishin to stay in Russia. However, regarding Nikishin, there was a report that there was an agreement they would release him early to join Carolina.

I kept hearing that about Nikishin too. To the point it was fact I thought. Seeing that he’s grouped the 2 players together in that statement when he could easily make the distinction between the two again is somewhat telling.

Either way, if there was absolutely zero chance of Demidov being let go, RR would surely just say that ‘No. He’s ours until May 31st.’

 

[Kennerback]

I kept hearing that about Nikishin too. To the point it was fact I thought. Seeing that he’s grouped the 2 players together in that statement when he could easily make the distinction between the two again is somewhat telling.

Either way, if there was absolutely zero chance of Demidov being let go, RR would surely just say that ‘No. He’s ours until May 31st.’

RR might have no knowledge about it. GM and President would have much more of a say than him. Unless RR de facto runs the club...

 

[habdynasty]

Can he fly over to Canada now or does he have to stay in Russia? It would be nice to get him here.