Proposal: Isles - Oilers

[backhandsauce]

Hamonic
Strome


For

RNH
Pouliot


Shake up.

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[Aceboogie]

So 2 NHLers for 1 solid D. No thanks.

Strome is looking a lot more like Yakupov then he is a promising player

Also- you never trade for a former 1st round pick of the Isles. Bailey, Nino, Reinhart, Strome, MDC. Isles 1st round drafting is good at one thing- letting you know who is a future bust

 

[seafoam]

A very easy no.

 

[A91]

Could always use a solid defensive D like Hamonic, but with the addition of Larsson he's not worth as much to EDM in a trade. RNH fills a better role on the team.
Wouldn't do RNH-Hamonic, Strome doesn't do much for us either.

 

[kasper11]

So 2 NHLers for 1 solid D. No thanks.

Strome is looking a lot more like Yakupov then he is a promising player

Also- you never trade for a former 1st round pick of the Isles. Bailey, Nino, Reinhart, Strome, MDC. Isles 1st round drafting is good at one thing- letting you know who is a future bust

So, Strome with 6 points is a bust, but Pouliot with 4 points and a $4,000,000 contract is a solid NHLer?

There is no way in heck the Isles are taking back $10M in contracts without getting a top line player or sending bad contracts back.

 

[Mad Brills*]

they turned down hamonic for hall why would they trade him?

 

[Juxtaposer]

So 2 NHLers for 1 solid D. No thanks.

Strome is looking a lot more like Yakupov then he is a promising player

Also- you never trade for a former 1st round pick of the Isles. Bailey, Nino, Reinhart, Strome, MDC. Isles 1st round drafting is good at one thing- letting you know who is a future bust

Funny how you call Pouliot an NHLer, but not Strome. Hasn't Pouliot been a healthy scratch recently?

Nino ended up a very good player, too, and he was the only one that escaped Capuano. Reinhart was just always bad.

 

[57special]

So, Strome with 6 points is a bust, but Pouliot with 4 points and a $4,000,000 contract is a solid NHLer?

There is no way in heck the Isles are taking back $10M in contracts without getting a top line player or sending bad contracts back.

Exactly. This is fair value, IMO, but I question if it would be good for either team. Trading Hamonic when he is hurt and has poor value and RNH when he has poor stats is somewhat of an even deal, with benefits for both teams( when you don't take that pesky expansion draft into account), but Pouliot isn't the answer to NYI's problems, and EDM doesn't need another young, possibly talented, struggling forward.

NYI loses big time in cap space, too.

 

[CodeE]

Market for defensemen is insanely high, especially young top pairing defensemen. If Hamonic were made available, and other assets like Strome or MDC were packaged with him, the truth is that it'd fetch a forward much much better than RNH/JVR types. Larsson got Hall, Jones got Johansen. Until that trend shifts, until I hear TSN analysts saying teams are desperately trying to acquire forwards, Hamonic's value will remain extremely high.

Boychuk and his crappy contract? Different story entirely.

 

[57special]

Again, the expansion draft, which allows you to protect only 3 Dmen( for the most part), tempers the demand for Dmen. Also, HAmonic being injured is a big deal. GM's live in the moment more than you can imagine. It's more checkers than chess.

Strome is a disturbing situation. Probably best for NYI to hold onto him. I don't see him having a lot of value right now, except for a similarly enigmatic player. It could be that some team sees something in him and will offer a decent middle six player, but that's about it.

My mistake, thought TH was still injured!

 

[Jet Walters]

Salary cap quickly puts a kybosh on this deal.

 

[PuckG]

No interest at all from the Oilers side. We already have our version of Hamonic.

 

[CodeE]

Again, the expansion draft, which allows you to protect only 3 Dmen( for the most part), tempers the demand for Dmen. Also, HAmonic being injured is a big deal. GM's live in the moment more than you can imagine. It's more checkers than chess.

Strome is a disturbing situation. Probably best for NYI to hold onto him. I don't see him having a lot of value right now, except for a similarly enigmatic player. It could be that some team sees something in him and will offer a decent middle six player, but that's about it.

My mistake, thought TH was still injured!

Teams who have three defensemen they'd protect over Hamonic aren't going to be the ones willing to pony up trade value for him.

Then again, the teams who do need a player like Hamonic tend to have fans that go "I'd easily protect Brandon Davidson over Hamonic" because hyping your own team's assets while crapping on the other team's is the preferred method of communication these days on hfboards. Hamonic and Leddy's value, both as young top pairing defenseman, remain consistent.

Older cap hit top-4s like Boychuk, tweeners like DeHaan, and expansion-eligible prospects like Pulock are the ones whose trade value takes the hit.

 

[Benedict Kovalchuk]

Pouliot is a bum, no interest there.

 

[Hunter368]

Oilers are 10th overall, NYI are 30th overall (worse team in the entire NHL).

Why would the Oilers want to shake anything up? I think Oilers are sitting back laughing right now thinking about their very much improved team. NYI on the other hand.......

 

[Jumptheshark]

Hamonic
Strome


For

RNH
Pouliot


Shake up.

this again?

 

[MooseDroppings]

Nice Boychuk Counter

Market for defensemen is insanely high, especially young top pairing defensemen. If Hamonic were made available, and other assets like Strome or MDC were packaged with him, the truth is that it'd fetch a forward much much better than RNH/JVR types. Larsson got Hall, Jones got Johansen. Until that trend shifts, until I hear TSN analysts saying teams are desperately trying to acquire forwards, Hamonic's value will remain extremely high.

Boychuk and his crappy contract? Different story entirely.[/QUOTE]

LW-Pouliot and LHD-Davidson for RHD-Boychuk, RW/C-Strome. Could work and definitely gives teams some different looks. The short term money is close too.

 

[ManofSteel55]

they turned down hamonic for hall why would they trade him?

Desperation.

I don't think either team considers this right now. The Islanders are desperate, but you don't trade your best d-man out of desperation. The Oilers need for Hamonic isn't as great now that they have Larsson. Also remember that if they trade for Hamonic now they would have to protect 4 defensemen for the expansion draft, exposing one of our better forwards.

Now - Talbot, Sekera, Klefbom, Larsson, Draisaitl, Eberle, Lucic, Nuge, Maroon, Kassian, Pitlick (if he keeps scoring at his current 25ish goal pace) or Pouliot (if he bounces back).

If we make this trade - Talbot, Sekera, Klefbom, Larsson, Hamonic, Draisaitl, Eberle, Lucic, one of Strome/Maroon/Kassian/Pitlick.

So either Strome gets protected, meaning it is Nuge for Hamonic essentially and we probably lose Maroon (who is a great fit), or we protect Maroon and probably lose Strome instead. Either way, Strome adds nothing, and while Hamonic is a very good player, it just doesn't seem worth losing Nuge in the trade and probably losing Maroon in the draft just to get him.

 

[ichabod13]

LW-Pouliot and LHD-Davidson for RHD-Boychuk, RW/C-Strome.

i think it gets more intense consideration if you take pouliot out of it and replace him with a decent pick or prospect.

 

[ManofSteel55]

i think it gets more intense consideration if you take pouliot out of it and replace him with a decent pick or prospect.

I don't think it gets consideration at all. Davidson is injured so the Isles won't want to do this now, and the Oilers will want none of Boychuk's contract heading into the expansion draft. We already have 3 defensemen we would like to keep, and I don't see Boychuk being a guy they would really want long term anyway. Maybe in the offseason after the expansion draft. Would Boychuk waive his no trade clause?

 

[McFlyingV]

i think it gets more intense consideration if you take pouliot out of it and replace him with a decent pick or prospect.

It definitely doesn't. We're not taking that Boychuk contract off the Islanders hands. They can deal with it themselves.

 

[Hunter368]

It definitely doesn't. We're not taking that Boychuk contract off the Islanders hands. They can deal with it themselves.

I can't see anyone taking that boat anchour contract.....its brutal. Boychuk's best days are behind him.

NYI will be forced to live with it, buy him out eventually or pay someone a steep price to take it.

 

[LTIR]

Why could this not have gone in the RNH to NYI thread just 2 below this one?

 

[tempest2i]

Why could this not have gone in the RNH to NYI thread just 2 below this one?

Because that's not how HF works

 

[Evilsports]

Ask this question after the expansion draft. As an Oilers fan, we're probably exposing either Pouliot of Davidson anyhow.

That said, if their wasn't an expansion draft looming I would actually give this trade some thought. Any perceived disparity in skill, by the Oilers, is compensated for in cap room. (My opinion).