Proposal: Isles/Habs

[Hammond]

Leddy(5.5m) + Lee(3.75m) for Plekanec(6m) + Beaulieu(1m)

Worth swapping for? How far off is it value wise?

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[Legend123]

lol horrible for the islanders. Leddy is one of their best

 

[Halla]

so the isles move their 2nd best dman and a young player that got 25g 2 years ago for a pending UFA #2C and a young dman with upside?

Plekanec isnt what the isle want/need and Leddy would cost alot. think sergachev

 

[entropism]

Best defenseman, not second. Leddy quickly became an actual #1 D in this league. He might not be top 10, or 15, but he's still a #1.

How far off is the value? Far off enough that someone is going to give the smartass "How about instead, we do Halak and Lee for Weber, Price and Patches?" answer.

 

[Hammond]

so the isles move their 2nd best dman and a young player that got 25g 2 years ago for a pending UFA #2C and a young dman with upside?

Plekanec isnt what the isle want/need and Leddy would cost alot. think sergachev

A top 6 2-way center for a top dman 4 isnt that crazy is it? + I think Lee would have more value if he didnt have a grand total of 1 point this year.

 

[RyderRocks73]

Best defenseman, not second. Leddy quickly became an actual #1 D in this league. He might not be top 10, or 15, but he's still a #1.

How far off is the value? Far off enough that someone is going to give the smartass "How about instead, we do Halak and Lee for Weber, Price and Patches?" answer.

That doesn't mean it's far off. That just means someone's a smartass.

 

[izzy]

Pretty bad for New York

 

[One Winged Angel]

That doesn't mean it's far off. That just means someone's a smartass.

No, it's as far off as Tom Hanks shouting for Wilson when he's on that raft in the middle of the ocean.

This coming from a Ranger fan.

 

[entropism]

A top 6 2-way center for a top dman 4 isnt that crazy is it? + I think Lee would have more value if he didnt have a grand total of 1 point this year.

OK, so...

#1 - The Isles have so many damned centers, they have them playing on the wing on nearly every line. So no, we don't need a PENDING UFA top 6 center. And let's be real here, he's a middle 6 center, which we most certainly don't need.

#2 - Calling Leddy a "top 4 Dman" is I guess, TECHNICALLY accurate. Weber is a top 4 D. Subban is a top 4 D. I mean, you can call them top 6 D, and that would be accurate as well, right? Either way, I bet you're reading this and getting really annoyed when I called Weber a top 4 D. Well, that's how far off you are on valuing Leddy.

#3 - Why are we giving up Lee, exactly? For what?

#4 - Why are we giving up Leddy for... a kid with lesser potential? You remember the Isles are trying to gear up for a deep playoff run, right? You remember we have some of the better prospects in the league, right? So why are we trading, arguably, our second best PLAYER (Not D, PLAYER. Right after Tavares) for what amounts to scraps?

 

[Bleeker]

A pipe dream for Mtl.

I love Beaulieu. I think he can be a 30-40 points Dman on a second pair
But there's no way at this point he and the aging Plekanec gets us Leddy ( a solid top pairing D) + Lee a young 40 points Center.

 

[The Great Weal]

Isles fans what would be the price for CDH

 

[Rebuilt]

A top 6 2-way center for a top dman 4 isnt that crazy is it? + I think Lee would have more value if he didnt have a grand total of 1 point this year.

How old is Plekanec, how much does he make and how long is his contract?

He is 34 , make 6 mil for 2 more years and currently has 3 points in 9 games .

Leddy is 25 years old and is locked up for 5.5 mil for 6 years. He has 4 points in 8 games. Hes also a defenseman .



I wonder who is getting the better core piece in this trade.

 

[entropism]

Isles fans what would be the price for CDH

Does Beaulieu need to be protected in the expansion? We could work something out (with one team adding if need be) if he doesn't. If not, a scoring RW.

 

[The Great Weal]

Does Beaulieu need to be protected in the expansion? We could work something out (with one team adding if need be) if he doesn't. If not, a scoring RW.

Ideally Beaulieu would stay for the playoffs. As for RW would it be an NHL player or a prospect like Scherbak?

 

[Hammond]

How old is Plekanec, how much does he make and how long is his contract?

He is 34 , make 6 mil for 2 more years and currently has 3 points in 9 games .

Leddy is 25 years old and is locked up for 5.5 mil for 6 years. He has 4 points in 8 games. Hes also a defenseman .



I wonder who is getting the better core piece in this trade.

Plekanec+Beaulieu = 6 points/+10, Lee+Leddy = 5 points/-2

 

[Hammond]

OK, so...

#2 - Calling Leddy a "top 4 Dman" is I guess, TECHNICALLY accurate. Weber is a top 4 D. Subban is a top 4 D. I mean, you can call them top 6 D, and that would be accurate as well, right? Either way, I bet you're reading this and getting really annoyed when I called Weber a top 4 D. Well, that's how far off you are on valuing Leddy.

I guess you're not wrong about labelling them all top 4 dmen. But if you want me to be specific, Leddy is a 2/3 on most teams. Weber and Subban are elite 1's on most teams. I think you're over-valuing Leddy a bit. I'm not against MTL adding a pick or prospect to even out the value, however.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Calvin De Haan and Josh Bailey for Plekanec

 

[seafoam]

NYI has no interest trading their best defenseman (Leddy), or one of their cost-controlled defensemen (de Haan) for a 34 year old center (Plekanec) or a lesser defenseman (Beaulieu) just to give Montreal that "one last piece!".

Sorry.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

It's sad that nobody understands how good Nick Leddy is. His value is sky high, there's honestly no one on the Habs other than Price that I would trade Leddy for. He's a young, top-pairing defenseman on a very good contract. He's a majestic creature.

Isles fans what would be the price for CDH

I don't know. I'm not opposed to moving him, but then we'd just create another hole if we did.

Calvin De Haan and Josh Bailey for Plekanec

Not worth moving CDH for Plekanec. Change CDH to something smaller, we'd add a 2nd and I'd do it.

 

[seafoam]

Calvin De Haan and Josh Bailey for Plekanec

Still an easy no.

NYI and Montreal are not good trading partners.

 

[seafoam]

It's sad that nobody understands how good Nick Leddy is. His value is sky high, there's honestly no one on the Habs other than Price that I would trade Leddy for. He's a young, top-pairing defenseman on a very good contract. He's a majestic creature.



I don't know. I'm not opposed to moving him, but then we'd just create another hole if we did.



Not worth moving CDH for Plekanec. Change CDH to something smaller, we'd add a 2nd and I'd do it.

Why? Bailey for Plekanec makes NYI's RW weaker than it already is while adding salary I don't even think they can afford.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Why? Bailey for Plekanec makes NYI's RW weaker than it already is while adding salary I don't even think they can afford.

I'm of the belief of having a strong 2nd line center. But you're right, as much as it makes me want to vomit we can't afford to move Bailey right now.

 

[Benstheman]

NYI has no interest trading their best defenseman (Leddy), or one of their cost-controlled defensemen (de Haan) for a 34 year old center (Plekanec) or a lesser defenseman (Beaulieu) just to give Montreal that "one last piece!".

Sorry.

Beaulieu is better than CDH.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Beaulieu is better than CDH.

I agree, but he's not nearly as good as Nick Leddy.

 

[One Winged Angel]

It's sad that nobody understands how good Nick Leddy is. His value is sky high, there's honestly no one on the Habs other than Price that I would trade Leddy for. He's a young, top-pairing defenseman on a very good contract. He's a majestic creature.

Galchenyuk? 22 year old 30 goal centers are hard to come by.