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Proposal: Islanders/Wild

boredmale

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Just looking at rosters it seems like the Islanders have a glut of left wings while the wild have a glut of right wings. How about a bad contract for bad contract type of deal

Bailey for Pominville(1.85M retained)

Bailey cap hit is 2 years @3.3M, Pominville is 3 years @5.6M
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So we're paying almost 5.3M for Bailey for the next two years? I think I'd rather just keep Pominville.
 
AKL said:
So we're paying almost 5.3M for Bailey for the next two years? I think I'd rather just keep Pominville.
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His cap hit is $3.3m per year for two more years. He doesn't have a NMC so I'd take the deal just so we don't have to protect Pominville.

Edit: whoops, missed the retained part. So $5.15m for two years and an open protection spot vs $5.6m for three years and a taken spot.
 
Digitalbooya said:
His cap hit is $3.3m per year for two more years. He doesn't have a NMC so I'd take the deal just so we don't have to protect Pominville.

Edit: whoops, missed the retained part. So $5.15m for two years and an open protection spot vs $5.6m for three years and a taken spot.
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That NMC could be an issue(I didn't realize Pominville had one). First we would have to get him to allow it I guess, secondly I wouldn't do the deal if we were forced to protect him
 
On the fringe. Pommer is a class act and was looking much better Jan->April. Best defensive winger last season...

I d take this deal because of the expansion draft. Without the expansion draft maybe a pass.
 
boredmale said:
Just looking at rosters it seems like the Islanders have a glut of left wings while the wild have a glut of right wings. How about a bad contract for bad contract type of deal

Bailey for Pominville(1.85M retained)

Bailey cap hit is 2 years @3.3M, Pominville is 3 years @5.6M
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Why Would the Wild Do This?

Bailey is at nature a Center who is now playing right wing not left wing.

Would The Islanders be better without Bailey......Yes Yes Yes

But They are not getting Pom!
 
gwh said:
On the fringe. Pommer is a class act and was looking much better Jan->April. Best defensive winger last season...

I d take this deal because of the expansion draft. Without the expansion draft maybe a pass.
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Pominville our best defensive winger? :laugh:

Bailey must really suck.
 
57special said:
Pominville our best defensive winger? :laugh:

Bailey must really suck.
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Honestly. He had good stats when war on ice was still up. Good takeaway differential, low on ice high danger scoring against per 60 and corsi was ok.
 
gwh said:
Honestly. He had good stats when war on ice was still up. Good takeaway differential, low on ice high danger scoring against per 60 and corsi was ok.
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Yet another reason to take some " advanced" stats with an entire shaker of salt. You're not exactly seeing Poms out on the PK very often, are you? Has he EVER been on the PK for us?

I will say this. Poms might do very well on Tavares wing. He is a smart offensive player. It remains to be seen how much more he has in the tank. I thought he was done, but he had a good last half of the year, and was our leading scorer in the playoffs.
 
boredmale said:
That NMC could be an issue(I didn't realize Pominville had one). First we would have to get him to allow it I guess, secondly I wouldn't do the deal if we were forced to protect him
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The NTC would be the only reason the Wild would consider the deal.

57special said:
Pominville our best defensive winger? :laugh:

Bailey must really suck.
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If you considered Coyle a center last year, then it's not a stretch at all to say Pommer was the best defensive wing on the team.
 
57special said:
Yet another reason to take some " advanced" stats with an entire shaker of salt. You're not exactly seeing Poms out on the PK very often, are you? Has he EVER been on the PK for us?

I will say this. Poms might do very well on Tavares wing. He is a smart offensive player. It remains to be seen how much more he has in the tank. I thought he was done, but he had a good last half of the year, and was our leading scorer in the playoffs.
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Not talking about PK. He was put together with Haula in the shutdown line for a reason and it was not the slapper...

The big money players don't play PK on wild because you need to block shots and blocked shots mean injury risk. Stoll was atrocious on PK and they still had him out there over Granlund.
 
gwh said:
Not talking about PK. He was put together with Haula in the shutdown line for a reason and it was not the slapper...

The big money players don't play PK on wild because you need to block shots and blocked shots mean injury risk. Stoll was atrocious on PK and they still had him out there over Granlund.
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What a spin doctor! Pominville was put on the Haula line ( AKA 3rd line) because he sucked so badly on the top two lines. He is a soft, slowing player who is subpar along the wall and without the puck. He is nowhere near a good defensive player at this point in his career.

He is a decent or better offensive player if he continues on where he left off last year.
 
Yes, anything to get rid of Bailey. Maybe Pominville could turn it back around with an elite center, something he hasn't had since Derek Roy was in his prime.
 
57special said:
What a spin doctor! Pominville was put on the Haula line ( AKA 3rd line) because he sucked so badly on the top two lines. He is a soft, slowing player who is subpar along the wall and without the puck. He is nowhere near a good defensive player at this point in his career.

He is a decent or better offensive player if he continues on where he left off last year.
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Pomminville is far and away the best Wild winger in his own zone (not counting Coyle) and his back pressure is good enough to keep him above the rest when taking the overall game into consideration.
 
Don't know how bad Pominville is these days, so I personally can't comment.

Bailey's not bad, he's just not a difference maker. He's depth.

If Pominville still has some left in the tank to be difference maker with a change of scenery, it's worth it. But if it's just for a more expensive non-difference maker depth move, hell no.
 
57special said:
What a spin doctor! Pominville was put on the Haula line ( AKA 3rd line) because he sucked so badly on the top two lines. He is a soft, slowing player who is subpar along the wall and without the puck. He is nowhere near a good defensive player at this point in his career.

He is a decent or better offensive player if he continues on where he left off last year.
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Calling me a spin doctor bro?

Pomminville has the 2nd lowest goals against on 5v5 after Haula out of team forwards. 2nd best Fenwick for %, after Niederreiter. Every defensive stat i can find is ok.

You are confusing him with Vanek...
 
I'd only do it for zero retention. Wild could add a pick if necessary but not paying $5.15 mil for Bailey for 2 years and a dead $1.85 the year after that.
 
I would think about straight up, but right now, we don't have the cap space. We have 6 RFAs and about 4 mill in cap left.
 
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